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2014/12/16 06:16:06
Subject: Shieldwolf Miniatures - Official News thread (Kickstarter announced, fourth army revealed page #7)
@Alex, are there currently any plastic landsknechte or conquistadors available? Just show me where to throw my money.
I don't think there have been any available since GW went down the pajamas and skulls route with their empire troops.
Warlord has ECW stuff, but that is definitely a different look, different weapons, and a different scale. And the Perry HYW stuff is a)tiny and b)aesthetically very different.
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2014/12/16 08:20:00
Subject: Shieldwolf Miniatures - Official News thread (Kickstarter announced, fourth army revealed page #7)
Gallahad wrote: @Alex, are there currently any plastic landsknechte or conquistadors available? Just show me where to throw my money.
I don't think there have been any available since GW went down the pajamas and skulls route with their empire troops.
Warlord has ECW stuff, but that is definitely a different look, different weapons, and a different scale. And the Perry HYW stuff is a)tiny and b)aesthetically very different.
Lead Adventures has some, but not in troop size boxes
2014/12/16 15:15:27
Subject: Shieldwolf Miniatures - Official News thread (Kickstarter announced, fourth army revealed page #7)
Gallahad wrote: @Alex, are there currently any plastic landsknechte or conquistadors available? Just show me where to throw my money.
I don't think there have been any available since GW went down the pajamas and skulls route with their empire troops.
Warlord has ECW stuff, but that is definitely a different look, different weapons, and a different scale. And the Perry HYW stuff is a)tiny and b)aesthetically very different.
not yet, but Warlord has just acquired Pro-Gloria and should be releasing their plastic landsknechte
Automatically Appended Next Post: but that's not to say that Shieldwolf should not go forward with whatever stuff they feel they need for their world,
no point designing and making minis just because nobody else does, they've got to fit in a gameworld (in this case)
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2014/12/16 17:17:13
Subject: Shieldwolf Miniatures - Official News thread (Kickstarter announced, third army revealed page #6)
OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote: make sure you've got a backup plan if MIKH is late,
he is a fantastic sculptor but has been really, really slow on delivering sculpts for some projects (eg Arena Rex)
Thanks for the heads up, we had actually read about that and mentioned it to the sculptor when we made contact with him. He demonstrated professionalism when he initially told us he was unavailable for further commissions due to his burdened schedule. We discussed it however and came to an agreement that Shieldwolf will await for him to finish his other commissions first but regardless of him making it on time or not, we have currently booked his services for a precise window/period of time in which all of it will be exclusively ours.
I had a commission with MIKH for my own project as well, unfortunately, it had to be cancelled due to numerous delays by MIKH, and now I'm at the point where he isn't refunding the deposit I've made, so I'm really questioning his "professionalism", and this is despite a contract we've made.
OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote: not yet, but Warlord has just acquired Pro-Gloria and should be releasing their plastic landsknechte
Yes, that's the one I was referring to.
but that's not to say that Shieldwolf should not go forward with whatever stuff they feel they need for their world,
no point designing and making minis just because nobody else does, they've got to fit in a gameworld (in this case)
But as has been said, there are more things that fit in the gameworld than Shieldwolf has the capacity to make, so making the best ones first and leaving the Conquistknechts until they've run out of better things to make would make more sense.
Give the Talliareum Ogres their slots, and you could give them a HIPS kit that still slots into people's existing Empire/Landsknect collections and would mesh with the Talliareum humans when you eventually make them, without just being redundant.
Give the Araves their slots, and you could use it for something interesting like a regiment of alchemists in HIPS.
Give the Shieldmaidens their slots, and you could make both the heavy and light infantry in HIPS.
"When I became a man I put away childish things, including the fear of childishness and the desire to be very grown up."
-C.S. Lewis
2014/12/16 20:56:31
Subject: Re:Shieldwolf Miniatures - Official News thread (Kickstarter announced, fourth army revealed page #7)
Gallahad wrote: @Alex, are there currently any plastic landsknechte or conquistadors available? Just show me where to throw my money.
I don't think there have been any available since GW went down the pajamas and skulls route with their empire troops.
Warlord has ECW stuff, but that is definitely a different look, different weapons, and a different scale. And the Perry HYW stuff is a)tiny and b)aesthetically very different.
Lead Adventures has some, but not in troop size boxes
Lead Adventure sells plastic stuff? I thought they only did metals. Could you post here or PM me a link?
2014/12/17 03:58:09
Subject: Shieldwolf Miniatures - Official News thread (Kickstarter announced, fourth army revealed page #7)
OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote: make sure you've got a backup plan if MIKH is late,
he is a fantastic sculptor but has been really, really slow on delivering sculpts for some projects (eg Arena Rex)
Thanks for the heads up, we had actually read about that and mentioned it to the sculptor when we made contact with him. He demonstrated professionalism when he initially told us he was unavailable for further commissions due to his burdened schedule. We discussed it however and came to an agreement that Shieldwolf will await for him to finish his other commissions first but regardless of him making it on time or not, we have currently booked his services for a precise window/period of time in which all of it will be exclusively ours.
I had a commission with MIKH for my own project as well, unfortunately, it had to be cancelled due to numerous delays by MIKH, and now I'm at the point where he isn't refunding the deposit I've made, so I'm really questioning his "professionalism", and this is despite a contract we've made.
That's most unfortunate, we are sorry to hear that and we appreciate you letting us know. :-D
I have to tell you however that both the Law firm rappresenting us and the Greek courts which will govern any argument relative to the contracts we sign and which is clearly stated on the contracts leave very little worries on our behalf. And fraud is not something taken lightly in my country ;-)
Gallahad wrote: @Alex, are there currently any plastic landsknechte or conquistadors available? Just show me where to throw my money.
I don't think there have been any available since GW went down the pajamas and skulls route with their empire troops.
Warlord has ECW stuff, but that is definitely a different look, different weapons, and a different scale. And the Perry HYW stuff is a)tiny and b)aesthetically very different.
Just to make something clear (because we don't want any misinterpretations or unintentional misleading by any means) the Guard of Pramendes consists of 2 "groups".
Half of it is made of these "Conquistador" type soldiers, who among other things will also be supplying/riding the Monstrous Cavalry of the Humans.
The other half however is a more like "medieval-monk" type soldiers, we have called them the Talliareum Warrior Monks and will also be in charge of the Warmachines from this faction.
For obvious reasons we couldn't put them both on our teaser pic...
Ah, expect to see a couple of female characters too in this faction :-)
We would like your advice to see how our 4 armies rank so far as far as popularity is concerned.
It could decide the order with which the Center pieces will be spread out thoughout the Campaign.
Alpharius wrote: Well, that was one of the least surprising 'winners' ever!
And yes - I know the vote isn't over yet, but it might as well be!
We had already done a research of our own and want this to secure our findings if you will, but mind you we are not looking only for who gets 1st place ;-)
Check out my gallery here Also I've started taking photos to use as reference for weathering which can be found here. Please send me your photos so they can be found all in one place!!
Hmmm... give or take the same results like the ones we had, although the Shieldmaidens didn't have that much of a lead from the others. The other 3 all have the same weight it seems...
So, looks like our stretch goal line-up doesn't change much, Shieldmaidens are getting their biggies faster than the others, plastic regiments line-up are the same, while Humans (claiming second place... by a thread) are getting their monstrous cavalry first :-)
2 more things before bidding you all a wonderful weekend, just to have something to talk about!
People have asked to see some greens, well I think we can do better than simple "greens", we'll post some on Monday to demonstrate the level our Sculpting Team has reached, in the meanwhile here's a teaser
Second thing, we noted our bases sizes will be from 20mm to 100mm. We lied. We will have 2 goodies on 150mmx100mm bases too ;-)
I remember talking with you when you first showed up on a "scene" because you showed very believable idea about business and had straight vision. I am really glad that you are still following that path. Hopefully if I manage to get hold on same spare chase I will try to put some financial "faith" in you also.
Warcraft-style Cervitaurs are a race I'd like to see someone make - centaurs have a lot of history behind them, and they're easy to slot into any game as pseudo-cavalry auxiliaries, and deer-centaurs tend to have better proportions than horse-centaurs do. They'd take up more sprue space per model than infantry (but still less than cavalry), so that's one potential downside.
"When I became a man I put away childish things, including the fear of childishness and the desire to be very grown up."
-C.S. Lewis
Not to try and knock on Mantic, but I really didn't like the ascetics of their demons. I'm looking for something a little less "Joker Grin/Popeye Face" mix.
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2014/12/20 14:17:41
Subject: Shieldwolf Miniatures - Official News thread (Kickstarter announced, fourth army revealed page #7)
OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote: not yet, but Warlord has just acquired Pro-Gloria and should be releasing their plastic landsknechte
Yes, that's the one I was referring to.
but that's not to say that Shieldwolf should not go forward with whatever stuff they feel they need for their world,
no point designing and making minis just because nobody else does, they've got to fit in a gameworld (in this case)
But as has been said, there are more things that fit in the gameworld than Shieldwolf has the capacity to make, so making the best ones first and leaving the Conquistknechts until they've run out of better things to make would make more sense.
Give the Talliareum Ogres their slots, and you could give them a HIPS kit that still slots into people's existing Empire/Landsknect collections and would mesh with the Talliareum humans when you eventually make them, without just being redundant.
Give the Araves their slots, and you could use it for something interesting like a regiment of alchemists in HIPS.
Give the Shieldmaidens their slots, and you could make both the heavy and light infantry in HIPS.
If they make the Araves, hmm, fine. The Shieldmaidens, maybe. Personally though, I'd rather see them make what they're already proposing to make; just because models explore similar themes doesn't mean they're interchangeable substitutes, ProGloria's plastic landsknecht might eventually be released by Warlord, but there's a reason I and others didn't put money into their own indiegogo - I don't like how they look. They take the bobblehead-syndrome of GW's "heroic" plastics and turn it up to eleven, and don't have any of the cool touches of gothic weirdness to make up for it. Shieldwolf's take on fantasy-medieval-come-renaissance human infantry is one I like, it's different enough from other offerings to justify its existence, and their scale looks much more reasonable going by the Araves sculpts.
You may not have any desire for these models right now, but don't pretend it's anything more than that.
"Your society's broken, so who should we blame? Should we blame the rich, powerful people who caused it? No, lets blame the people with no power and no money and those immigrants who don't even have the vote. Yea, it must be their fething fault." - Iain M Banks
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"The language of modern British politics is meant to sound benign. But words do not mean what they seem to mean. 'Reform' actually means 'cut' or 'end'. 'Flexibility' really means 'exploit'. 'Prudence' really means 'don't invest'. And 'efficient'? That means whatever you want it to mean, usually 'cut'. All really mean 'keep wages low for the masses, taxes low for the rich, profits high for the corporations, and accept the decline in public services and amenities this will cause'." - Robin McAlpine from Common Weal
Not to try and knock on Mantic, but I really didn't like the ascetics of their demons. I'm looking for something a little less "Joker Grin/Popeye Face" mix.
I know - I was joking!
"Abyssal" was something that Mantic was calling them, and I hadn't previously seen many (any?) others asking for them.
I'd bet Shieldwolf's versions would be...more to my liking too.
Don't know if this reminds you something of Friday's teaser... :-)
And this is how we are working on ALL our miniatures, we have already set it in motion ourselves to secure it works just fine, all Teams are wonderfully coordinated concept artwork-sculptor-casters-painters... yap, everything! Hope you like these as much as we do! :-)
And since it's unfair to reveal stuff from only one faction, here are a few more teasers, starting with one of the Units of the fearsome Talliareum Mercenary Ogres
Here's what the level of detail the Northern Alliance Shieldmaidens are getting, this is just some shields! :-)
And to top it off, last but not least, here's a greenskinned Hero!
And if you like these, mind you we are obviously keeping our best cards for later on ;-)
We are trying to put various touches of "I don't give a d*mn, I'm big and strong and will do what I like! As long as it doesn't get me killed or arrested..."
Enough detials to make them interesting and with character, not too many to make painting become a burden, these shown above are core-troops with modular weaponry for enhanched convertability.
:-D
grefven wrote: The valley orcs, in particular, looks very nice. I like those ones.
Thanks, these are a couple of additional close-ups of the unpainted version to show the level of detail we are now putting on our the Valley Orc Character models :-)