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Well Depends on which price range you want to go,

Booster packs only corvettes and frigates?

Starter fleet one ship, two corvette sets and one Frigate set
or 2 ships and one corvette set and one frigate set?

Full fleet? 3 shops, 3 frigates (sets) and 3 corvette (sets).

It also depends on game playing style, some people play with ship heavy or escort heavy fleets.

Starter set--then fleet set. (?)

Would a starter set "royal sampler" work? By which I mean a set that includes one battleship, one cruiser (or one squad?), and one squad of each type of escort.

I admit, I'm looking more for a good diversity of ships to paint rather than a good fleet for gaming.

BobtheInquisitor has a good idea there. That would be a good sample/starter set.

I don't think we want to do booster packs since that can easily be covered by the single products on the site.

It's not hard for us to experiment with packs since they don't really require any special packaging, just the shot for the product on the website but we do want to at least put something together that is worth getting.

I think the goal would be to do a starter fleet that gives you a good range of ships and can be expanded without folks feeling like they wasted money on ships that aren't useful.

Past that probably a full fleet kit in either capital heavy or frigate/corvette heavy.

Here's a bit of an update to show you the frigates with a coat of paint on them. I'll be getting these photographed and put up on the site later today.

Very Battlefleet Gothic.

I'm holding out for Dropfleet

The painting on those looks fantastic, Vaaish!

Flashman - These are definitely intended for BFG, no harm no foul there, imo. It's hard for me though since I only know 1 or 2 folks who play it, and obviously it's hard to get fleets for the other factions (rather than these which I assume would count as Imperials). But these do look marvelous and if I was a regular BFG player I'd have sprung for them in a heartbeat.

@RiTides: Thanks! We are planning to expand the line with a second fleet this fall That might make it a bit easier to collect some fleets in the near future.

Oh man, now That is intriguing! I could totally see myself buying a "2 player starter" if you were to offer two factions . I hope the second fleet is not just "evil imperials" but something more interesting... any hints on that?

Yeah, We ran a poll on our facebook page between Terrans and Stygians and Terrans won out. They're going to be smaller ships, but more heavily armored and packing some big guns. Much more utilitarian in look than the Helians despite having similar tech bases.

The mythos so far is that the helians are a science faction exiled from Earth because of a failed experiment using our Sun that ended up devastating the planet. The Helians venerate the star reactors they developed from the experiments which is why their ships are more like shrines. Earth used most of their remaining resources to rebuild the planet so they can't afford to build many massive ships like the Helians and instead use more smaller ones.

@Vaaish--awesome paint job--especially the engines!!!

But what are these Stygians then? Aliens?

Stygians are more rebels than aliens but they will have more alien looking ships.

Vaaish wrote:
Stygians are more rebels than aliens but they will have more alien looking ships.

Will they be smooth like the left one or more spikey like the middle one? Ignore the one on the right

At this stage I couldn't tell you. We've bounced around some thoughts about smooth, spiky, asymmetrical but none of that has really solidified to much of anything yet.

Like all our stuff, we'll be posting early concept art for the community to look over before we actually produce the models so if folks hate what we do with them you'll probably see some changes based on community feedback.

They are quite a ways off though. We plan to do the Terrans next and then a battleship size craft for both Helian and Terran before Stygians.

I am not sure on going completely different than what people know, the Helios ships a re slightly different than the one we know, maybe the terrans should similar but different than than this?

Yes please!

The plans for the terrans aren't really headed toward what you posted up there at all and a lot of folks use the Helians as proxies for that already. It's not really different enough to be considered a new fleet.

We've been talking a lot about split prows, smaller ships, heavy armor, and big guns for the Terrans. It's just we haven't quite worked up the art for them yet while we are finishing out the Helians.

I would definitely want to see something more different than that... open to seeing what others' opinions are as you want to do what sells best, but were your facebook fans into the idea of a different look for Terrans?

Certainly, it would be good visually for the range, and beautiful things (as long as there is a solid use for them) should sell!

We polled only the general distinctions between Terrans and Stygians but Terrans should work well as marine proxies if you want. We'll see how folks respond to the concept art this fall and go from there.

Looking forward to seeing the doodles!

Yeah--would love to see the concept art!

@Aegisgrim--I have bought some of Battlegroup Helios ships and they do nothing but compliment your fleet---absolutely beautiful models!!!

Concept art is a ways off for Terrans. The plan right now is to finish getting the Helian studio fleet painted up (3 corvettes and 3 Assault Frigates left) before taking a bit of a break to recharge before we start in on Terrans near the end of August or September.

Dredging up this since we're getting start on the next round of models for BGH. This time working on the upcoming Terran Fleet for BGH and I thought I'd share our progress with you. This is the top down view of the Terran Bulwark class cruiser. The Terrans rely on smaller, more heavily armored and utilitarian ships than the Helians do. This guy will be approximately 6cm long making it about half the length of a Helian Dreadnought. Let us know what you think!

I'm thinking I would like a fleet of them!

Intriguing, seems like you guys are moving more into your own aesthetic rather than going for "non-Space Marine" ships. Very curious to see where this will go!

@Malika: This is just the direct top view of the ship which really shows all the armor plates. We're still going to have skeletal ribbing underneath that will poke up through the gaps in the armor and be more visible on the sides. The goal is to have the Terrans and Helian tech base be similar enough that you can see a connection but still different to the point of being easy to distinguish.

Think more like the FW strike cruiser vs the regular one or the IN ships.

They kind of look like hi-tech Tau Space marine ships