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 Paradigm wrote:
Hmm, I have a spare suit of TDA and a Termi-heavy BA force, I might just paint to paint up one in UM/shared and dinged up colours... Cool stuff!

I was building a force of Blood Angels "Deathwing" using the Space Hulk terminators, and was actually planning on using an old Assault on Blood reach White Dwarf promo Terminator as Levi, the moment after rediscovering that piece of fluff in one of the old Compendiums I had.

NauticalKendall wrote:
Iron Hands marines that are disabled in combat can be brought back to life by Tau using Gun Drones as described in Sanctuary of Worms. Funnily enough, the Tau was let go by the newly awakes Iron Hand.

I remember that, it was a Deeathwatch story and it was the augments on the Iron Hand that where revived which containted enough of his mind to try and complete his mission of killing the fungus Nids. One Tau was anle to leave to warn the Empire of the threat, theother accompanied the Marine to help finish the mission.

 ClockworkZion wrote:

NauticalKendall wrote:
Iron Hands marines that are disabled in combat can be brought back to life by Tau using Gun Drones as described in Sanctuary of Worms. Funnily enough, the Tau was let go by the newly awakes Iron Hand.

I remember that, it was a Deeathwatch story and it was the augments on the Iron Hand that where revived which containted enough of his mind to try and complete his mission of killing the fungus Nids. One Tau was anle to leave to warn the Empire of the threat, theother accompanied the Marine to help finish the mission.

Source? And you mean to tell me there are stories where Tau are the good guys(Or at least helpful to the good guys)? I would love to read these!

 Vanguard-13 wrote:

 ClockworkZion wrote:

NauticalKendall wrote:
Iron Hands marines that are disabled in combat can be brought back to life by Tau using Gun Drones as described in Sanctuary of Worms. Funnily enough, the Tau was let go by the newly awakes Iron Hand.

I remember that, it was a Deeathwatch story and it was the augments on the Iron Hand that where revived which containted enough of his mind to try and complete his mission of killing the fungus Nids. One Tau was anle to leave to warn the Empire of the threat, the other accompanied the Marine to help finish the mission.

Source? And you mean to tell me there are stories where Tau are the good guys(Or at least helpful to the good guys)? I would love to read these!

It was a short story in Xeno Hunters. I don't want to spoil it too much. I liked the book over all.

So according to the Mars series Hrud don't exist normally in time and space. In the book it's mentioned that one in a status field was [/i]moving[/i] when not being looked at, and they kill a planet. I would not want to piss them off.

Xenology Hrud are entropy made manifest... a far cry from the original Nocturnal Warrior of Hrud, which was a jawa with a rat tail.

 Furyou Miko wrote:
Xenology Hrud are entropy made manifest... a far cry from the original Nocturnal Warrior of Hrud, which was a jawa with a rat tail.

Yeah, they proved that in Gods of Mars rather nicely. BY KILLING A PLANET'S CORE.

Again, do NOT piss them off.

Also considering how dangerous they can be it makes you wonder how the Throne's fluffy seat cushions they can even be captured.

In Storm of Iron, a former Guardswoman was taken as a slave by a Warpsmith turned Khorne Berzerker. She eventually put on his possessed armor and killed him. My understanding is that she eventually became a deamon prince (princess?) and is still alive

BomBomHotdog wrote:
In Storm of Iron, a former Guardswoman was taken as a slave by a Warpsmith turned Khorne Berzerker. She eventually put on his possessed armor and killed him. My understanding is that she eventually became a deamon prince (princess?) and is still alive

I heard about that. Considering she (a mortal human, the kind that gets killed a LOT vs Marines) killed a Chaos Space Marine I think she earned it.

 ClockworkZion wrote:

BomBomHotdog wrote:
In Storm of Iron, a former Guardswoman was taken as a slave by a Warpsmith turned Khorne Berzerker. She eventually put on his possessed armor and killed him. My understanding is that she eventually became a deamon prince (princess?) and is still alive

I heard about that. Considering she (a mortal human, the kind that gets killed a LOT vs Marines) killed a Chaos Space Marine I think she earned it.

Even a peasant with a kitchen knife can kill a fully-armoured knight if he gets the jump on him and a lucky strike... Just consider the number of peasants that didn't.

Brother Michael wrote:

 ClockworkZion wrote:

BomBomHotdog wrote:
In Storm of Iron, a former Guardswoman was taken as a slave by a Warpsmith turned Khorne Berzerker. She eventually put on his possessed armor and killed him. My understanding is that she eventually became a deamon prince (princess?) and is still alive

I heard about that. Considering she (a mortal human, the kind that gets killed a LOT vs Marines) killed a Chaos Space Marine I think she earned it.

Even a peasant with a kitchen knife can kill a fully-armoured knight if he gets the jump on him and a lucky strike... Just consider the number of peasants that didn't.

Takes more than just a "lucky strike" to outright kill a Marine.

 ClockworkZion wrote:

Brother Michael wrote:

 ClockworkZion wrote:

BomBomHotdog wrote:
In Storm of Iron, a former Guardswoman was taken as a slave by a Warpsmith turned Khorne Berzerker. She eventually put on his possessed armor and killed him. My understanding is that she eventually became a deamon prince (princess?) and is still alive

I heard about that. Considering she (a mortal human, the kind that gets killed a LOT vs Marines) killed a Chaos Space Marine I think she earned it.

Even a peasant with a kitchen knife can kill a fully-armoured knight if he gets the jump on him and a lucky strike... Just consider the number of peasants that didn't.

Takes more than just a "lucky strike" to outright kill a Marine.

In the First Heretic a wood spear kills a gal vorbak chaplain when it hits the neck tubing of his armor, (mk 4 i believe)

It is primarily luck when killing marines.

BomBomHotdog wrote:
In Storm of Iron, a former Guardswoman was taken as a slave by a Warpsmith turned Khorne Berzerker. She eventually put on his possessed armor and killed him. My understanding is that she eventually became a deamon prince (princess?) and is still alive

No, but she wore the armor for a while, until it's ORIGINAL owner called it back. Her fate, along with the final resolution of a couple things from Storm of Iron is resolved in the Ultramarines trilogy.

Don't let this die!

Not So Obscure Fact:

Orks are the universes greatest psychers. What they believe comes true. Box with a handle? Throw ammo in box? It shoots because Ork believe it shoots.

If this is the case then if an Ork believes it is immortal, would it become Immortal?

 Bronzefists42 wrote:


In the First Heretic a wood spear kills a gal vorbak chaplain when it hits the neck tubing of his armor, (mk 4 i believe)

It is primarily luck when killing marines.

Yeah, but come on. That was not very normal people they had found, they were in the Eye of Terror.

 ClockworkZion wrote:

BomBomHotdog wrote:
In Storm of Iron, a former Guardswoman was taken as a slave by a Warpsmith turned Khorne Berzerker. She eventually put on his possessed armor and killed him. My understanding is that she eventually became a deamon prince (princess?) and is still alive

I heard about that. Considering she (a mortal human, the kind that gets killed a LOT vs Marines) killed a Chaos Space Marine I think she earned it.

She is dead. Those guys reappear in Dead Sky, Black Sun. There she helps Uriel Ventris but gets killed in the process.

 Vanguard-13 wrote:
Don't let this die!

Not So Obscure Fact:

Orks are the universes greatest psychers. What they believe comes true. Box with a handle? Throw ammo in box? It shoots because Ork believe it shoots.

If this is the case then if an Ork believes it is immortal, would it become Immortal?

It depends if the ork in question can convince other orks of the same thing. The more of them believe the same thing, the more 'real' it becomes. In that sense, Ghazghkull is probably as awesome (in the fluff anyway) as he is because every single ork believes him to be.

I think all(or a large number) the Orks have to believe it was immortal. Perhaps that is why Gahzkull(sp?) is still around?

Cadians have purple irises, owing to their proximity to the Eye of Terror.

While it is common knowledge members of the Death Korps have no names, only ID numbers (aside from officers, who by most sources are "natural born" members of the Krieg population, rather than by whatever means produces most of the Korps numbers), the highest honour they can be awarded is a name drawn from the last pre-civil war census of the planet. Upon their death, their name and ID number combination is added a massive obelisk monument in honour of all those lost.

See, they're not completely sociopathic.

 Vanguard-13 wrote:
Don't let this die!

Not So Obscure Fact:

Orks are the universes greatest psychers. What they believe comes true. Box with a handle? Throw ammo in box? It shoots because Ork believe it shoots.

If this is the case then if an Ork believes it is immortal, would it become Immortal?

No, because this is the stupidest piece of fluff ever written

 Bobthehero wrote:

 Vanguard-13 wrote:
Don't let this die!

Not So Obscure Fact:

Orks are the universes greatest psychers. What they believe comes true. Box with a handle? Throw ammo in box? It shoots because Ork believe it shoots.

If this is the case then if an Ork believes it is immortal, would it become Immortal?

No, because this is the stupidest piece of fluff ever written

Relax, Guardsman #1587529, this has been toned down in recent years. Hell, I don't even remember if the latest codex references this at all.

Its uh, its guardsmen #5-6-1-3-6

Okay?

 Bobthehero wrote:
Its uh, its guardsmen #5-6-1-3-6

Okay?

I'll remember that for next time.

Not sure if those where said. they aren't obscure, but I didn't know it until lately.

1-Lion (Dark angels Primarch) ain't dead as pointed out before. He is 'fully healed' as written in the actual DA codex.
2-the Golden Throne is located somewhere in/under/whatever Mont Everest.

Orks all have tiny psychic field, which enables them to believe in their "red unz go fasta" superstitions.
I recall a joke, in which some Cadian Guardsmen are holding a line against an Ork WAAAGH. They are out of ammo, so the sergeant shouts for everyone to do as he does, before putting his hands to look like he's shooting a rifle, and shouting "BANG!". Every time he or a Guardsman said BANG, an Ork died because they thought they were beign shot at.

Also, a Marine picking up a Shoota won't be able to shoot before an Ork believes he is his target.

So, make all Orks Psyker Mastery Level 1?

 Lord Blackscale wrote:
I think all(or a large number) the Orks have to believe it was immortal. Perhaps that is why Gahzkull(sp?) is still around?

That would be Commissar Yarrick. Using the Orks psychic powers against them, what a nice move .

Lasguns have no moving parts. Combined with near-infinite ammo, this is why guardsman carry them instead of the more advanced weapons the Imperium is actually capable of manufacturing in bulk. Supply train is still important in the Imperium.

The C'tan now called the Void Dragon was an invention of the internet, specifically on the old GW forums. The 4 remaining C'tan were originally the Nightbringer, the Deceiver, the Outsider, and the Dragon. Internet idiots started calling it Void Dragon, and it stuck (probably because internet idiots became the writing staff).

Shuriken Catapults used to be mechanically equal or superior to Storm Bolters in every way, including range.

Land Raiders were the only unit to increase in points cost during the great reshuffle between 2nd and 3rd edition.

Tycho, of the Blood Angels, acquired the grievous injury to his face and hatred of Orks because of a battle report. In a 2nd edition battle report in White Dwarf, Andy Chamber' general was a Blood Angels Space Marine Hero that he named Tycho. Jervis Johnson's Orks won the battle and killed Tycho in the process. Tycho would later go on to become a special character when Codex Angels of Death was released.

Striking Scorpions, Dark Reapers, and Fire Dragons were the first units in the game with a 3+ armour save. Marines had a 4+ at the time. Terminators had a 2+.

The Horus Heresy (and everything that goes with it, including primarchs, the great crusade, etc) was invented to be the setting of Titanicus and Space Marine's epic scale game, because at the time they only had Space Marine plastics and needed a reason for them to be in opposing armies. It also was taking place "now", not ten thousand years ago.

The Night Haunter's name is spelled with a "The". His name isn't Night Haunter.

Mortarion had no compelling reason to betray the emperor. On his way to Terra with Horus' fleet, he decided the Death Guard would open fire on the traitors as soon as they emerged in real space. It's for this reason Nurgle convinced Typhus to kill all of their Navigators and trap them in the warp leading to Mortarion's fated decision.

The Lion Sword, sword of Lion El'Jonson and possibly Cypher, obliterates the warp presence, or soul, of anything it kills, eradicating them completely. Whether Cypher understands that, and what he plans to do with that sword remains a mystery.


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The Astronomicon existed for up to 25 thousand years before the Emperor's emergence in the Unification Wars. The only relation it has to the Golden Throne is that the Golden Throne siphons its power. Were the Golden Throne and Emperor removed from it, absolutely nothing would change about the Astronomicon.

The Imperium as we know it, a united, totalitarian, religious state has only existed for ~3 thousand years as a result of Goge Vandire's Reign of Terror. Prior to that, it was a confederation more like the Holy Roman Empire or pre-united States colonies.

White Scars only have an association with bikes because the editor of White Dwarf liked both bikes and White Scars. Prior to that, Dark Angels were considered the Bike chapter for Marines, what with them having over a decade of background and rules, whereas White Scars had nothing except a name.

Speaking of Dark Angels, there used to be three wings. Deathwing, Ravenwing, and Ironwing. The Ironwing was all tanks and other vehicles.

In the Dark Angels, scouts don't graduate into Devastators, as they do in most chapters. They go directly into command squads, only later rotating out into Tactical Squads.

The Dark Angels are a chapter in name only. Azrael is the Supreme Grand Master. The leaders of the Dark Angel successors are merely Grand Masters, as are the leaders of the Deathwing and Ravenwing. Every Dark Angel successor chapter is just another part of the Dark Angels command structure. Whereas Ultramarine successors have a loose affiliation and similar structure to their parent, the Dark Angels are still an outright Legion.

And lastly, Dark Angels were the Emperor's personal Legion prior to El'Jonson's recovery, and were both set apart and above the other Legions, even after Horus' recovery.

Inquisitors can earn Terminator Honors

 DarknessEternal wrote:
The Imperium as we know it, a united, totalitarian, religious state has only existed for ~3 thousand years as a result of Goge Vandire's Reign of Terror. Prior to that, it was a confederation more like the Holy Roman Empire or pre-united States colonies.

What? The main differences between the Imperium before Vandire came to power and after he was executed by Dominica were internal to the Ecclesiarchy. The High Lords kept being the High Lords, and so on.

 PandaHero wrote:
Not sure if those where said. they aren't obscure, but I didn't know it until lately.

1-Lion (Dark angels Primarch) ain't dead as pointed out before. He is 'fully healed' as written in the actual DA codex.
2-the Golden Throne is located somewhere in/under/whatever Mont Everest.

Isn't the Inquisitorial headquarters under the Himalayas, where the Golden Throne takes over the North American continent.

Also Space Wolves Gene seeds are dependent on Fenris to mature, it was attempted to have another chapter start elsewhere, but this lead to massive mutations.

Beyond the milky way, in the void between galaxies and in the entire totality of the rest universe there are only Orks.
An imperial probe was once sent out beyond the galaxy, it discovered that the milky way could be the only place in the universe where the Orks have not yet taken over.

 Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:

 DarknessEternal wrote:
The Imperium as we know it, a united, totalitarian, religious state has only existed for ~3 thousand years as a result of Goge Vandire's Reign of Terror. Prior to that, it was a confederation more like the Holy Roman Empire or pre-united States colonies.

What? The main differences between the Imperium before Vandire came to power and after he was executed by Dominica were internal to the Ecclesiarchy. The High Lords kept being the High Lords, and so on.

There were High Lords and that's sort of the point. The High Lords are in charge of one thing each. Merging the Administratum with the Ecclesiarchy turned that into one entity so large that it basically assumed control of the entire Imperium, making the other areas managed by High Lords into the basically vassals they are today.


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 Registered Ork Offender wrote:
Beyond the milky way, in the void between galaxies and in the entire totality of the rest universe there are only Orks.
An imperial probe was once sent out beyond the galaxy, it discovered that the milky way could be the only place in the universe where the Orks have not yet taken over.

That's not accurate. That imperial probe only confirmed that there are orks outside of the known galaxy. It knew nothing else about the composition of anything. Certainly nothing about what the dominant lifeforms may be in other galaxies.