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![[Post New]](/dakkaforum/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif) 2008/04/23 11:53:19
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Cpl_Saint
Sagitarius with a Big F'in Gun
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Hey cats,
I'd love any feedback you've got.
Sigilite Main Battle Tank
Praetorians:
Balisterai:
Melta-armed hypaspists:
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![[Post New]](/dakkaforum/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif) 2008/04/23 11:54:50
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Drake_Marcus
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Beautiful work! I love the AM ogres
What's the plan on your regular trooper's bases?
I love the Balisterai- very unusual looking guns! What do they do?
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![[Post New]](/dakkaforum/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif) 2008/04/23 12:14:39
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Yeah I guess I can see why some people would let you use them as Adeptus Mech.
I mean if they were open minded.
Awesome stuff man, can you give more of an idea how they were made. I see bret men at arms, green stuff hoods?
I forget the name of the company but I recognize their hooded cyborgs.
And some forgeworld stuff.
What else?
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![[Post New]](/dakkaforum/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif) 2008/04/23 13:33:54
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Boss_Salvage
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It may be the pics, but the Praetorians' skin looks too purple to me. The other, shorter dudes have more pinkish / purplish skin, which works IMO, vs the taller guys ...
Otherwise - DAMN. Been continually impressed with your stuff, but totally sweet to see them all in a mass like that. I don't remember getting what the Balli standing with the tripod device are - some kind of heavy weapon? Mortar maybe (ground distortion device) or perhaps lascannon (power-spike inducer)?
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![[Post New]](/dakkaforum/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif) 2008/04/23 13:54:59
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Cpl_Saint
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Thanks very much for the comments, guys – much appreciated. I have to get this army finished in a month for a campaign weekend and I'm struggling to keep motivated!
It may be the pics, but the Praetorians' skin looks too purple to me.
Yeah, I stupidly used white instead of bleached bone and it looks too vibrant, doesn't it. I'm in two minds whether to go back and repaint the flesh, or simply paint over it as armour. Thoughts?
Boss Salvage wrote:I don't remember getting what the Balli standing with the tripod device are - some kind of heavy weapon? Mortar maybe (ground distortion device) or perhaps lascannon (power-spike inducer)?
Drake_Marcus wrote:I love the Balisterai- very unusual looking guns! What do they do?
To answer these questions, I'd like to read a poem.
*cough* *deep breath*
Boom boom boom boom
Boom boom boom boom
Boom boom boom boom
Boom boom boom boom...
Unpainted as yet, but the Depressors (gunners) will operate these Bombard Mortars; hence the weird techy-thing. For the record, the loaders are Multipulators and the spotters are Omnivisors (all made-up names, but thought they were fun).
Drake_Marcus wrote:What's the plan on your regular trooper's bases?
I'll be using these rolled shoulder resin bases throughout the army – they give the (fairly fragile) pieces some weight and protection.
Kid_Kyoto wrote:Awesome stuff man, can you give more of an idea how they were made. I see bret men at arms, green stuff hoods? I forget the name of the company but I recognize their hooded cyborgs. And some forgeworld stuff.
The hypaspists, balisterai and sagitarii are mainly men-at-arms with FW renegade bits and Greenstuff ( GS) hoods, though there are heads from all over the shop; the Praetorians are MicroArt Studios Iron Brotherhood with FW arms and Phoenix club bionics; Marines are terminator bits and GS; the COGs are mainly FW renegade ogryns and plasticard for the chainaxes (though there's a squiggoth tail on the big one!); the Skulz set provided most of the techpriests, though a couple are Enginseer conversions, one is a Mordheim Possessed magister, one is a Necromunda scavvy and one is a FW Nurgle priest; and there're also various bits from smaller companies – the mortar tracks are from Ramshackle; there's a couple of Hasslefree models dotted here and there, too; the tanks are a mishmash of Predators and Chimeras and the big Sigilite is based on a Land Raider with Baneblade bits. In short, lots of junk from all over the place! Oh, and the angled shoulder pads are trimmed angled plasticard in three different widths (seemed a good idea at first... but too many drives you crazy!)
Bubbling under in the plasmaforges:
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Boss_Salvage
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The LEGION OF AWESOME cannot be stopped!
Cred on all the round rim bases, they really do look excellent on your minis.
Man, seeing all your stuff brings me back to my starry-eyed youth, with grandious dreams of making that AdMech army of conversions and doing whatever I wanted, screw the rules (obvious allusion to my signature of you on Warseer  ). Then I burned out on 40k ... then returned to it, sold off my AdMech Skullz Sets (   ) and went All Chaos All the Time. But now ... do I hear the call of Fernex again? My evil marines could use some cybernetic fodder / big guns ...
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![[Post New]](/dakkaforum/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif) 2008/04/23 14:23:56
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Cpl_Saint
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Man, you totally have to do some Dark Mechanicus minis for your Chaos army... I've been tempted to do some based on flagellants, the new ghouls and a mteric ton of the new spawn; but the loyalists have to take precedence for the moment.
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dogma
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Great stuff. I really like the sigilite, but could we see some picture of it at other angles?
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DaMaGe
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This is awesome! The tanks are brilliant, and the conversion work overall is great - you've ended up with a really original army, that looks fantastic
Re: what to do with your praetorians skin, I say go for the repaint on those, the white instead of bleached bone kind of makes their skin resemble yoghurt  haha, kidding.
Since you seem to answer requests for photos, can I see that tank hiding in the back behind the sigilite?
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![[Post New]](/dakkaforum/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif) 2008/04/23 16:02:59
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syr8766
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Sweet. Love the baneblade turret on the LR/LR hybrid.
And I love the PP style bases. Gives the army a lot of character (which it has already).
Kudos.
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manowar2
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Wow that is an amazing army. I love all your infantry, but those Ogryn are just to awesome not to commend. I would like to know though what models those praetorian guys are? They look really cool and I wouldn't mind picking a couple of them up.
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This is just a big bucket of awesomeness! The conversions throughout the entire force is certainly a task well done and gets 5 stars from me
The skin is looking a little "yogurty" which is a non-issue for your army and could even been explained as an unhealthy palour due to the dark labs then work in and the huge amount of cybernetics implanted in them. If you choose to go back and repaint (I don't think you need to) The just highlight a little normal fleshtone on them. They would be slightly healthier looking and still maintain an odd shade in the recesses. I think the purply look is pretty good.
Once again, your army is certainly a work of art!
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thank you for reminding me again why I like 40k so much.
awesome.
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The unhealthy skin tone is a good thing. Trust me, I work in tech
Man, those tanks are sweet. I like the reduced number of exposed rivets vs. the original Baneblade, making it look slightly higher-tech, and matching it well to the Land Raider bits. Good blend work there.
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i love it all, especially that huge tank, it's sweet!!! oh and what are those other tanks supposed to be, because i can't figure it out.
overall great job, keep it up and keep posting more pics
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![[Post New]](/dakkaforum/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif) 2008/04/24 08:44:35
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Cpl_Saint
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Hey guys,
Thanks for the comments. There are a few questions there, so I'll do my best to answer 'em – apologies in advance if I miss something!
Bastirous666, DaMaGe, The tanks are Lokis; Chimera-chassis based APCs:
WIP detail:
manowar2 wrote:I would like to know though what models those praetorian guys are?
They're from Micro Arts Studio in Poland. I wrote a review of them not long ago, so you should be able to do a search for 'MicroArts' or 'Iron Brotherhood' with all my thoughts on these models.
nemissary wrote:Once again, your army is certainly a work of art!
Savnock wrote:I like the reduced number of exposed rivets vs. the original Baneblade, making it look slightly higher-tech, and matching it well to the Land Raider bits. Good blend work there.
Thanks – wasn't sure anyone was going to notice that!
Praetorian skin
Right, not much love for the armour idea, so I think I'll just bite the bullet and repaint 'em in the proper skintone. I've got another fourteen to do, so I can probably just batch paint them. In fact, I can do it at the same time I reskin these guys:
They're menials.
More random shots:
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Bastirous666
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so the smaller tanks are chimeras then?
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![[Post New]](/dakkaforum/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif) 2008/04/28 14:10:31
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Question for you Saint:
How do you paint your red? I've got some INQ models that might need painting by the end of May - including a tech priest  - and I'd love to have a good recipe for red that doesn't include 1000 coats of red gore. Do you use the foundation red, by any chance?
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![[Post New]](/dakkaforum/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif) 2008/04/28 15:08:55
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Cpl_Saint
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Boss_Salvage wrote:Question for you Saint:
How do you paint your red?
With great ease! After a few different recipes (including a hundred coats of Red Gore – too slow; and using Mechrite Red – too pink!), I've got it down to a five-stage affair:
1) Prime matt black
2) Paint all red areas with Dark Flesh – this has great coverage.
3) Paint all the Dark Flesh with Scab Red
4) Use Red Gore to add first highlights, covering virtually all the area
5) Use touches of Blood Red on extreme highlights.
That will give you this:
Nice and quick and simple.
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Excellent! I can handle that, got all the paints in fact. Will have to see how it works out for 54mm dudes
A general question, what's your metal there? Boltgun + black ink wash? I'm used to drybrushing metal, but as my drybrushes continue getting wrecked - and as this is 54mm! - I'd like to try the wash for real now. You dilute then add dish soap?
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These are awesome
Seriously, great conversions
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this is one of my favorite armies thats been posted on dakka in a long time. i love how gritty it is.
im glad to see someone taking advantage of the micro art servitor/techpriest looking resin guys. did you pick up any of the creepy little midget ones? i had thought that they would make cool weapon crews for some sort of mortar teams (although your motarized mortars are totally sick).
the big tank is awesome. i love how chunky it is. also a huge fan of the ogryn servitors, especially the one with the searchlight type faceplate. i think someone already made a bioshock reference, but ill make it again, its rad.
the only criticism i have is on the Loki tanks. I really dig the concept, but feel like the turets have too much of a 'neck' between them and the bodies. if they sat more flush on the top of the chassis i would love them.
im also curious what codex you are using when you field these guys, and which guys represent which units.
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Cpl_Saint
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Boss_Salvage wrote:Excellent! I can handle that, got all the paints in fact. Will have to see how it works out for 54mm dudes 
As if by magic:
Very WIP, but should give you an idea of how it works on the 54mm models. I would say that the Gary Morley sculpts don't have a great deal of recessing on the robes, so they tend to look a bit flat. I'm really tempted to try some elaborate decoration on 'em and make a virtue of it – perhaps square spirals all over it.
Boss_Salvage wrote:A general question, what's your metal there? Boltgun + black ink wash? I'm used to drybrushing metal, but as my drybrushes continue getting wrecked - and as this is 54mm! - I'd like to try the wash for real now. You dilute then add dish soap?
Ah, I suck at metals – just really need to knuckle down and try harder. If you want my advice (i.e. not what I actually do, but what I *should* do), start with a flat wash of boltgun metal over black, then add a dilute wash of 50:50 Chaos Black and Regal Blue; then highlight with boltgun, then sharp highlights with Chainmail.
Additionally, I've found that adding some brass to servoarm plates etc. really helps add some detail. Using Macharius Orange as the base (instead of black) will give you a rust effect, and using Jade Green and Beaten Copper/Dwarf Bronze will give you a verdigris effect.
Count Bonchula wrote:this is one of my favorite armies thats been posted on dakka in a long time. i love how gritty it is.
the big tank is awesome. i love how chunky it is. also a huge fan of the ogryn servitors, especially the one with the searchlight type faceplate. i think someone already made a bioshock reference, but ill make it again, its rad.
Thanks very much!
Count Bonchula wrote:im glad to see someone taking advantage of the micro art servitor/techpriest looking resin guys. did you pick up any of the creepy little midget ones?
Yep – they'll probably end up either as menials (basically fearless conscripts without guns) or simply wound markers. Fun little models!
Count Bonchula wrote:the only criticism i have is on the Loki tanks. I really dig the concept, but feel like the turets have too much of a 'neck' between them and the bodies. if they sat more flush on the top of the chassis i would love them.
Yeah, it is a little thick. I may go back and lower them, but it'll have to wait til after Dark Stars.
Count Bonchula wrote:im also curious what codex you are using when you field these guys, and which guys represent which units.
I started off using them as Witchhunters with Guard allies, but now use the Tempus Fugitives' Codex: Cult Mechanicus. There's a free download here, and I really can't recommend it enough. It really captures the spirit of the Ad Mech while remaining simple and elegant:
http://www.tempusfugitives.co.uk/index.php
If anyone would like to look at any of the pictures from the start of the project to now (and still updated!), please feel free to browse my photobucket account:
http://s103.photobucket.com/albums/m150/Cpl_Saint/Braun%20VI%20Skitarii/
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Techno (Plague) Priest, excellent
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