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Hello all.

There may have been a thread like this before, but I won't bother looking.

So, are many people here on Dakka girls? I always find our games club full of guys, and I have no problem with that, but it can be good to have a game with another woman once and a while. The few other women in gaming I know are the girlfriends of guys who game.

~TS

I may have an answer for you, but I won't bother posting it.



Seriously, I don't see many women playing 40k or Warmachine here in Toronto. I've tried to recruit both male and female friends of mine, and it's almost entirely the guys who are interested to try it - I've only had one female friend try a game, whereas I've convinced at least 12 male friends to give it a go. The one woman who *was* interested was a ringer though - apparently working as a contractor and being very familiar with the difference between a 6x8 and a 6x6 gave her the ability to accurately eyeball distances down to the quarter inch (shudder), and she smoked me in a Warmachine battlebox game.

My wife games, and she paints (1/4-1/8 scale resin figures), but she won't play 40k (or similar strategy games). She doesn't like to lose her little men to the vagaries of war.

girlz!

wait ... "another woman"? Colour me surprised!

There is an all girls club in Troy, Alaska.

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My sister plays...Adeptas Sororitas (I hate saying sister twice it's such a redundant utterance!)She's actually put a lot of effort into painting her rank and file models. Even though they are not done yet, I hope she takes time out from her own projects and makes some more headway on her stuff. It would be great if she and I could go down to the PolyCon and meet Ozy in SLO. Neither of us have a full army painted yet so that kind of puts a damper on going. It is a lot of driving though.

Gee. . .I wonder why most women who game are little shy about posting on the internet?

All the off-topic posts in this thread have been deleted.

If you have something legitimate to add to the thread please do so, but otherwise save the jokes for the OT forum.

on a more serious note, we had another thread where we determined that more women were attracted to MMOs than wargaming, which I suppose is obvious.

I have been thinking myself that people attracted to wargaming tend to be more aggressive. So someone aggressive is attracted to wargaming rather than being a die-hard trekkie, for example.

As an aside, isnt it funny how the 'plainest' girl can wear clothes revealing just the slightest bit of cleavage, enter a game store, and is instantly transformed into a ROCK STAR!

I've always thought this funny.

A couple of years ago when I was still married, I was going to a VTES tournement (vampire card game), my wife was playing and had only the slightest bit of experience. I told her to wear this awesome top that showed her 'girls' off while leaving her stomach bare with a tight pair of jeans. She whooped so much a$$ with her deck against hard pipe-hittin' players and had almost NO experience.

Gamers are so predictable.

Deadshane1 wrote:As an aside, isnt it funny how the 'plainest' girl can wear clothes revealing just the slightest bit of cleavage, enter a game store, and is instantly transformed into a ROCK STAR!

I've always thought this funny.

A couple of years ago when I was still married, I was going to a VTES tournement (vampire card game), my wife was playing and had only the slightest bit of experience. I told her to wear this awesome top that showed her 'girls' off while leaving her stomach bare with a tight pair of jeans. She whooped so much a$$ with her deck against hard pipe-hittin' players and had almost NO experience.

Gamers are so predictable.

I always enjoyed playing the guys that brought their "hot" girlfriend in to distract the players. Their plans go down the tubes when you completely ignore the girlfriend except for a friendly "hi".

Either I'm half-gay or my level of maturity is higher than average in the wargaming community. While playing in an RTT I joked around with a guy's wife and while she did look somewhat appealing, when it was time to roll dice, I won 2 of 3, including a solid victory against her husband. I did however enjoy getting to talk about something besides 3+ ward saves and armor reduction while at my FLGS.
Maybe it's just that I'm married as was she, and I didn't want either of us being needlessly uncomfortable or possibly it was the screaming toddler the couple had brought along that made me go "Ungh! Wailing brat!" instead of "HUR! BOOBIES!!!"

themandudeperson wrote:
Maybe it's just that I'm married as was she, and I didn't want either of us being needlessly uncomfortable or possibly it was the screaming toddler the couple had brought along that made me go "Ungh! Wailing brat!" instead of "HUR! BOOBIES!!!"

Ah the other clever ploy to try and distract opponents, the wailing child....

Deadshane1 wrote: I told her to wear this awesome top that showed her 'girls' off while leaving her stomach bare with a tight pair of jeans. She whooped so much a$$ with her deck against hard pipe-hittin' players and had almost NO experience.

I can do this with much the same effect.

"I can't unsee it! You win! You win!"

As much as I talk about the stereotypical gamer, I usually talk about them in the hypothetical sense and give my fellow nerd the benefit of doubt. But ugh, these stories.

Their plans go down the tubes when you completely ignore the girlfriend except for a friendly "hi".

Yeah. I especially like the way you used "hot" in addition to deadshane's "how the 'plainest' girl" statement.

malfred wrote:

Deadshane1 wrote: I told her to wear this awesome top that showed her 'girls' off while leaving her stomach bare with a tight pair of jeans. She whooped so much a$$ with her deck against hard pipe-hittin' players and had almost NO experience.

I can do this with much the same effect.

"I can't unsee it! You win! You win!"

I know Yakface already did away with our previous posts, but dammit Malfred now I wanna play you in a tourney someday. I'll give you a little extra in your sportsmanship score.


\/\/\/\/ edit: Yeah man I know what you mean. It's funny how being in college, and especially being a former nursing student, desensitizes you and sets your bar high in terms of cute/hot girl ratings.

stonefox wrote:

Their plans go down the tubes when you completely ignore the girlfriend except for a friendly "hi".

Yeah. I especially like the way you used "hot" in addition to deadshane's "how the 'plainest' girl" statement.

Well, let's be honest, "hot" to one person may be "what the hell is that thing, your pet badger?!" to someone else.

Wow.

This thread got a very different reaction than I though it would

Tacobake wrote:on a more serious note, we had another thread where we determined that more women were attracted to MMOs than wargaming, which I suppose is obvious.

I would say that Table-top RPGs and such appeal more to women as well. I base this on the fact that I posted a similar thread on an rpg site a frequent and I got a tonn of responses (from women) in a short time.

Tacobake wrote:I have been thinking myself that people attracted to wargaming tend to be more aggressive. So someone aggressive is attracted to wargaming rather than being a die-hard trekkie, for example.

Sounds like me

Deadshane1 wrote:As an aside, isnt it funny how the 'plainest' girl can wear clothes revealing just the slightest bit of cleavage, enter a game store, and is instantly transformed into a ROCK STAR!

This is kinda exaggerated, but it has some truth in it.

mattyboy22 wrote:Ah the other clever ploy to try and distract opponents, the wailing child....

Or the unsupervised game store kid who breaks everything

Seriously though, after a while going to tournaments where your the only woman gets a little irritating after a while since, when it comes down to it, you never really get treated like one of "The guys" until everyone knows you really well and even then new people always treat you differently.

One other thing that I've noticed here, is that most of you only know girlfriends or wives who play their husband/boyfriends game. VermGho5t mentioned his sister played, which is alot like me. I was brought up with three brothers. That's probably why I play these types of games.

~TS

In my experience, the girl gamers are just as varied as the dudes. I've played some that were just "gamers", and that was that (that's most of 'em). There are those that act like the DM's girlfriend, and they irk me. No, you can't re-do the shooting phase. No, you can't have those five guys coaching you. They are, fortunately, in the minority though.

I do try to make the extra effort to treat them just like guys, though (minus the gay jokes, of course).

ALthough my wife doen't game she is always pestering me to give her models to paint.. but they have to be 'good' models or at least non evil.

SHe is intent on painting a lizardman skink metallic green.

I've seen perhaps 3 female gamers at tourneys here in Sunny Brisbane out of a collection of probably 300 gamers in the last year.
Although I just recall that there are quite a few females playing LOTRs, probably as its much more accessible through the movies.

Women just don't understand how to dominate in a game like 40k... they are not tactical by nature. For instance they love to play eldar and field units like Swooping Hawks.

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Green Blow Fly wrote:Women just don't understand how to dominate in a game like 40k... they are not tactical by nature. For instance they love to play eldar and field units like Swooping Hawks.

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Wow, I've never heard a greater pile of stereotypical bull.. If there is one thing I've learned about any girl who participates in any typically male hobby with any level of seriousness it is that they should never be underestimated. I've seen girls on the paintball fields make most guys present look like newbies renting their gear for the first time. I've seen one of the better WHFB players I know, fight tooth and nail for a minor victory over a girl. Hell, I've even seen girls who do that LARP thing with the foam-sword-style-medieval-combat set guys a foot and a half larger than them on their ass. People need to realize sometimes the greatest advantage you can have over the competition is being underestimated.. Unless that was meant as sarcastic humor, then all I have to say is "lol"

Green Blow Fly wrote:Women just don't understand how to dominate in a game like 40k... they are not tactical by nature. For instance they love to play eldar and field units like Swooping Hawks.

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I hope your joking. If not, I'll just have to kick your ass with my Crimson fists cc army.

themandudeperson wrote:Wow, I've never heard a greater pile of stereotypical bull.. If there is one thing I've learned about any girl who participates in any typically male hobby with any level of seriousness it is that they should never be underestimated. I've seen girls on the paintball fields make most guys present look like newbies renting their gear for the first time. I've seen one of the better WHFB players I know, fight tooth and nail for a minor victory over a girl. Hell, I've even seen girls who do that LARP thing with the foam-sword-style-medieval-combat set guys a foot and a half larger than them on their ass. People need to realize sometimes the greatest advantage you can have over the competition is being underestimated.. Unless that was meant as sarcastic humor, then all I have to say is "lol"

The underestimation thing gets old after awhile. Winning games because the guy your playing against assumes you don't know the rules or won't play aggressively or play to win gets tiresome since you can't find a real challenge. Once people get to know you though they don't pull punches.

Another thing I've noticed is that guys always are surprised by the armies I have. No, I don't play SoBs. Yes, your heard me right, I have an SM army. And no, the SM army is not composed of women.

~TS

themandudeperson wrote:Either I'm half-gay or my level of maturity is higher than average in the wargaming community.

Supposedly everyone is. Half-gay, I mean.



The only female gamers I've actually played with (in-game, I mean) have been RPG players. D&D, primarily. One was the DM's girlfriend (later his wife), and the other was the wife of another player. They were both legitimately good players though, for the most part. Although the tendency of one to play useless bards was a bit annoying after awhile, as she was usually the first to get dropped in a straight-up fight.

Wargaming though...well, my last girlfriend played Flames of War with me once. It was okay. We played Axis and Allies once or twice too. It's not really something I want to discuss.


P.S. - Poast!

"RPG players. D&D, primarily."

We have one girl in our D&D club at school and she always plays an acoholic preist who gets more useful the more drinks she consumes.

I like Swooping Hawks ....

Green Blow Fly wrote:Women just don't understand how to dominate in a game like 40k... they are not tactical by nature. For instance they love to play eldar and field units like Swooping Hawks.

GBF, this was a pretty crappy joke even by your standards At least add a laughing orkmoticon after it so people who arent used to you or some of the subtleties of english are able to understand it is a joke.

Was that a joke? Sounded quite truthfull to me, altho there might be a few exceptions out there somewhere.

I can only recall two female gamers ever at my FLGS. One of them I only saw once, but you don't forget it when they have an entire Demon army proxied with a huge assortment of My Little Ponies.

This post is going to turn out a lot different than I started it.

Don't have many females at my FLGS. Except for the strippers who come in dressed for work (long story), they seem to just be gamers. A bit more competitive. Less fluff, more competitive. One thing I have noticed, and that I appreciate; is that they seem to have more of a "if it's legal, roll with it!" attitude. No fluff bunnies here! Blind, crippled, or crazy; if it's in the book it's good for the tabletop! I appreciate that in an opponent. I find it's more of a gaming stretch.

And they're fun to talk with. It's different.

As far as girls not being tactical; the ones who are not, are prob. not interested in these games, and are doing something else. The ones who ARE doing this as something more than trying to spend some time with the b/f tend to be rather competitive or they don't last long.

Back in the 'nati there was a woman who played dark eldar at a fairly high level, as I recall. I also met one in college who played chaos (FB and Bloodbowl) and another who played Mordians.

Again, most of the XX gamers I've encountered have been rpgers, or were drawn in by the dollies (though that defines most folk, methinks), but I've met a fair amount who do the miniatures thing, though interestingly, mostly Warlord, Warmachine/Hordes (which I think has a higher rate of women enthusiasts, but that may be just perception) and Battletech, of all things.

I realize my statement came across as a stereo type so let me go into more detail. Obviously there aren't many females who play 40k. Obviously there are a lot of male players that don't have a good grasp of the tactics... so probably why we don't see many females that win a lot is simply because there are less of them that play the game. I have met two women who play 40k at GTs. The first one played orks and tended to lament on how the army had lost its flavor in 3rd edition since most of their zaniness had been dropped from the rules. I don't think she won a single a game to be honest. The next one I met had a beautifully painted eldar army and told me she was into the army appearance and fluff over performance.

Most of the women I have met that play tend to play eldar and I believe that is because this race allows you to field female warriors such as Howling Banshees. Some of us like to be able to identify with our armies.
My last girlfriend was a solid 40k player and really was into all aspects of the full... so they do indeed exist.

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