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 Stormwall wrote:
The Angel is a wonderful model. It just has a nice feel to it.

How do I vote to get the hunter, and I am just letting you guys know I upped my pledge for two terrain sets. Hopefully they get unlocked in a final pledge spree.

Here is the link to the survey over at the Maelstrom's Edge website, where you can vote for which extra sprue should be included.

I understand the comments about the Adult Angel being "too static," but I quite like it as it is. I'd like to have two, though, so I could modify one to have a more active stance. I've been brushing up my modification skills with Mantic's Plague recently, and monkeying around with reposing / resculpting figures has quickly become my favorite aspect of the hobby.

 Vermonter wrote:
I understand the comments about the Adult Angel being "too static," but I quite like it as it is. I'd like to have two, though, so I could modify one to have a more active stance. I've been brushing up my modification skills with Mantic's Plague recently, and monkeying around with reposing / resculpting figures has quickly become my favorite aspect of the hobby.

As the legs and arms have no joints a lot can be done with a little heat.

 Stormwall wrote:

I am just letting you guys know I upped my pledge for two terrain sets. Hopefully they get unlocked in a final pledge spree.

However, you know if they are not unlocked that could be totally marketed as a universal product, and have it's own Kickstarter. I mean it's lovely, I cannot see as to why someone wouldn't buy some. I will be as deflated as Tom Brady's balls if they don't get unlocked as they were the main reason I pledged, besides to swap with Ritides.

Could you imagine a single box for that price with all those bits on sprue, opening it up, and then adding it to terrain in almost any game?

I can.

Not to worry about the terrain sprue, it will be happening whatever the total the KS reaches (and you'll get the ones you added one)

the stretch goal is just to add a free sprue to the box set

 OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:

 Stormwall wrote:

I am just letting you guys know I upped my pledge for two terrain sets. Hopefully they get unlocked in a final pledge spree.

However, you know if they are not unlocked that could be totally marketed as a universal product, and have it's own Kickstarter. I mean it's lovely, I cannot see as to why someone wouldn't buy some. I will be as deflated as Tom Brady's balls if they don't get unlocked as they were the main reason I pledged, besides to swap with Ritides.

Could you imagine a single box for that price with all those bits on sprue, opening it up, and then adding it to terrain in almost any game?

I can.

Not to worry about the terrain sprue, it will be happening whatever the total the KS reaches (and you'll get the ones you added one)

the stretch goal is just to add a free sprue to the box set

Oh. Forgive me for being dumb then.

Still if that is the case, the Tom Brady analogy still applies.

No worries, it is a bit unintuitive compared to most normal type stretch goals,

but then most KS are pie in the sky rather than nearly finshed stuff

I do get the complaints that the Angel is a bit static. I like it, but it is a fairly static pose. But if it was in some kind of cool pose, and you have more than one in the army, that would be even more obvious, and it would be harder to mod the pose to make them different in that case. Of course, it could've been made more poseable, but I don't know how much that would've affected any detail or anything.

As I read this, I've come to realize something.

The static pose is a good thing. With bases being a far off stretch goal, the model needs to be able to stand on it's own two feet. Given it's top heavy nature, that means a wide base must be made. So that is why the legs are not in some mid-movement stride. Stability.

Same with the arms, keeping the mass balanced and even. So we don't end up with a model like the Tau Commander, constantly falling over.

I also think It accurately conveys the unit very well. It also gives the modeler more options to play with, as it is so pre-set (static). The slightest changes can make it really stand out.

Given how experienced the majority of the players are, I think there will be no trouble modding the Angel. And if a player doesn't have the skill, well, they can always add more sprues to the mix later. Add on Bits and what not. This is only the kickstarter.

At least, this is my opinion and how I got myself to like the Angel

What would have been best is to design the Angel with ball and socket joints on its limbs however it is not an insectoidal creature and the jellyfish like limbs do not work that way. So you have to put complete sets of alternative limbs on the sprue, thus adding cost.

The boxed set is a starter, though and it can't get too expensive. I view the Angel as the equivalent of the Dreadnaught in the 5th edition starter of 40K, a simplified version to keep costs down.

Personally I like the Angel and I think it will be easy to modify but I reckon a terrain sprue would make a better bonus sprue.

It probably doesn't help sell the model that there appears to only be the two demo models of the Angel both built in the same default pose. (I was going to write "one demo model" until I checked the update and saw the photo with the two angles and five minnows again...)

I think the important question is "What's the melting point of that plastic?" for when I finally get a heat gun? Because that seems like it'd be the better way of adjusting the limbs...

 Stormwall wrote:
Edit: Not that you cater to me but, a mech booster set would be cool. For instance, if it contained one hunter and two scarecrows, that'd be a sick little box set for later as well. Good luck guys.

I would love a mech booster! I am definitely planning to pick up more scarecrows and drones at retail, I honestly think I'm going to have enough Hunters as it is though

yeah,
I love the Angel!
I'm splitting two boxes with ArbitorIan.

He's getting the Karist halfs and I'm getting the Epirians.
I originally wanted to vote scarecrow as I want more of those!
I changed our vote to Angel as I think we need more of these on the Table! They are so awesome!

Can't wait to play this game it's Looking So good.

Panic...

 Panic wrote:
yeah,
I love the Angel!
I'm splitting two boxes with ArbitorIan.

He's getting the Karist halfs and I'm getting the Epirians.
I originally wanted to vote scarecrow as I want more of those!
I changed our vote to Angel as I think we need more of these on the Table! They are so awesome!

Can't wait to play this game it's Looking So good.

Panic...

I enjoy seeing the two of you duke it out! I've always enjoyed the grots, all-female DE, and Arbites, so this should be a treat!

More terrain sprues! Make do a variant as well!

Today's update highlights one of the many advantages of real plastic models - the conversions you can try!



We've got quite a few conversions shown to try and help inspire you to have a play around with your plastics as well

Man, those Angels look awesome. That last one is just missing a Cthulhu face.

Wow this an extremely good deal!

This last email was one of my favorites, probably because I enjoy converting so much. Enjoyed seeing the Karist with the hood, very nice.

I also enjoy that you guys got some ideas from things posted in the thread, especially the ED-209 and the repositioning of the Tempest's arms to something a little more...comfortable

These are excellent:





Assembling the Angel with some of the extra claws it comes with is just genius

I have to say I love this one, it is just so disturbing.



Hats off to the modeller.

Yeah, this is why I love plastic models! So much potential to just do what you want to do with them.

 insaniak wrote:
Yeah, this is why I love plastic models! So much potential to just do what you want to do with them.

In this, we are in complete agreement.

I'm getting a lot of ideas for projects based on these minis.

 Inspector #264 wrote:
I have to say I love this one, it is just so disturbing.



Hats off to the modeller.

Yes.

THIS is how one of the Angels should look. That looks absolutely fantastic, so when I said earlier that I wasn't a fan of the Angel that's definitely down to the posing of the stock model.

And I love the Scarecrow without the shoulder gun. I wonder how it would look with one of the rocket pods from the Hunter in it's place....

 RiTides wrote:
These are excellent:





Assembling the Angel with some of the extra claws it comes with is just genius

Looks like the Scarecrows might be lead by chappie!

Valete,

JohnS

This here is why I'm backing...

I thought it was for the Hunters and the other drones, but nope. This conversion right here.

Come to think of it, minnows might be good conversion fodder too, give them a tail, six legs...

 Spiral Arm Studios wrote:
Today's update highlights one of the many advantages of real plastic models - the conversions you can try!

Spoiler:

We've got quite a few conversions shown to try and help inspire you to have a play around with your plastics as well

Out of curiosity, what are the conversions on this model? Are there just variant bits used or did you have to cut and reglue? Is it normally just one of the stormbolter type double guns per hunter sprue or can you do this with every hunter? I hereby dub this conversion the Big Game Hunter!

edit: I took a peek at the KS sprue page and I wasn't sure if the limb sprue shows two halves of one arm or both arms on that single sprue.

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/medge/maelstroms-edge-a-next-gen-sci-fi-miniatures-warga/posts/1224283

The missile pods are moved to the shoulder pads instead of behind the head, and the legs were cut and bent slightly at the knees, to give him more of a 'braced to fire' sort of stance.


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The guns are standard... You can build the arms like that straight off the sprue.

Thanks for the clarification.

 insaniak wrote:
The guns are standard... You can build the arms like that straight off the sprue.

And quite a few of mine will be built just like that as that is one beautiful loadout. Of course, it remains to be seen if it is the most optimal for gameplay, but I don't think that's going to stop me