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...oh no, its happened already!

So, I was down at my LGS (Its not an FLGS anymore - its been downgraded since a new manager took over who's utterly useless - and its a GW store!) last night for a 5th ed preview evening.

Everyone had been asked to bring combat patrol forces and I (foolishly) believed it would be a fun night of looking through the new rules and trying stuff out. So me and a mate took down a CP each with loads of different stuff (he had SM bikes and scout snipers, I took a tank, blast weapons etc).

So - first up. The staff weren't running the event (I'm not sure this was even legal as there were kids there, so the guy who was 'in charge' would need a criminal records check under current UK law).

Second. The guy running the event didn't know the new rules. I ended up arguing with him all night (I was right every time btw, thanks largely to the good people at dakkadakka.com for all the leaked info ).

Third (this is where the cheese comes in). This guy plays my mate. He puts down a tau force, some of which aren't even undercoated (not the impression you want to give). He's done the tricky battlesuit thing of taking 3 squads of 2 XV8's, all identical except 1 of each squad has a blacksun filter (so you have to allocate wounds differently).

Lets ignore the fact that he didn't know the rules, embarrassed himself by putting out grey plastic, cheated constantly (having two squads close enough together that he thought he could swap wound markers between them without people noticing, whinged about people moving to the millimetre then moved his own models front to back, had a true LOS that involved light bending round corners etc.).
Lets even ignore the fact that he put out what was effectively a power-build in a training game (and even then would have lost if my mate had moved his bikes differently).

But come on. 3 hardwired blacksun filters, just to try and avoid losing models in Combat Patrol? I smell seriously strong cheddar.

Which Yorkshire store is this? As a Yorkshiremann myself I'm intriged.

Oh, and that guy's a bellend. Simple as.

Pray, tell me what is a bellend? Inquiring minds on this side of the Atlantic would like to know.

Doesn't sound like that tool is following the 3F's for running events. Pity. Report the sod to the regional manager.

GW Meadowhell.

When I got back into the hobby a few years ago it was the best store in Yorkshire.

Now its gotten so bad I'm seriously considering sending a letter of complaint to the area manager.

EDIT: Beat me to it there Grognard - I'm having serious lag issues this morning!

Le Grognard wrote:Pray, tell me what is a bellend? Inquiring minds on this side of the Atlantic would like to know.

Doesn't sound like that tool is following the 3F's for running events. Pity. Report the sod to the regional manager.

A Bellend is... well that bell like bit at the end of your... Earthshaker Cannon.
And yes that guy sounds like a complete and total one.
I despise people who move their models wrong to cheat.

Bell End, also know as purple helmet.

Swearch here in the Profanisaurus section.

http://www.viz.co.uk/?%2Fprofanisaurus%2Fprofan_index.php%3Ffb%3D1

Thats a, well, different way to interpret the meaning...

Anyways, unlucky with the event and it always sucks to play soemone like that, especially if they're meant to be the ones organising the event, and to not even know the rules, shame on him. he gives a bad name to gamers everywhere

You should slap the owners of the GW store and those cheats at the night. those people who run the GW store should be banded with a track record like that. over throw thema nd run it yourself

i still claim its probably better then the grimsby store

Apone wrote:

Le Grognard wrote:Pray, tell me what is a bellend? Inquiring minds on this side of the Atlantic would like to know.

Doesn't sound like that tool is following the 3F's for running events. Pity. Report the sod to the regional manager.

A Bellend is... well that bell like bit at the end of your... Earthshaker Cannon.
And yes that guy sounds like a complete and total one.
I despise people who move their models wrong to cheat.

40K: Bringing people together in the spirit of cultural understanding!

Now I have some exotic new insults to throw around! Thanks a bunch.

Wehrkind wrote:

Apone wrote:

Le Grognard wrote:Pray, tell me what is a bellend? Inquiring minds on this side of the Atlantic would like to know.

Doesn't sound like that tool is following the 3F's for running events. Pity. Report the sod to the regional manager.

A Bellend is... well that bell like bit at the end of your... Earthshaker Cannon.
And yes that guy sounds like a complete and total one.
I despise people who move their models wrong to cheat.

40K: Bringing people together in the spirit of cultural understanding!

I like to learn at least one new thing a day. I used the word 'sod' correctly, didn't I?

I like to think that in one little corner of America, someone will get called a bellend, ask what it means, call someone else it etc and eventually bellend will be the new cultural buzzword in the states. That would make me so bloody proud I'd do a little cry.

Greebynog wrote:I like to think that in one little corner of America, someone will get called a bellend, ask what it means, call someone else it etc and eventually bellend will be the new cultural buzzword in the states. That would make me so bloody proud I'd do a little cry.

I will do my best, sir.

Bell End, also know as purple helmet.

AKA Mr. Richard Head.

Capt K

CaptKaruthors wrote:AKA Mr. Richard Head.

Capt K

Thanks Capt K, I was going to say it, but you saved me the trouble.

While I agree that the guy was clearly a wanker. I'm not really sure how cheesy it is to intentionally make one model different from the rest just to some how take advantage of the armor save group issue.

Wounds are still allocated the same, it's only that the saves are rolled in batches. Or am I misunderstanding the exploit?

Russ, it gets around the "remove whole models" rule, as you can end up with two suits with different equipment, each having 1 wound.

Purple Headed Yogurt slinger says what?

Hmm i Don't think that is very cheesy... just make sure you nail him with lots of shots and he will fail saves like mad. It only really becomes cheesey if he takes the 9 man squad of suits

Janthkin wrote:Russ, it gets around the "remove whole models" rule, as you can end up with two suits with different equipment, each having 1 wound.

I dunno. As a Tau player, I can see lots of legitimate reasons to equip two suits in a unit differently. It's practically mandatory if you want to use drones, for example. If it affects the way wounds are allocate under 5th, that's the first example of GW having ballsed up the rules.

I'm not going to make any imputations for or against this particular player. I'm just saying you can't assume it was simple cheese.
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Greebynog wrote:I like to think that in one little corner of America, someone will get called a bellend, ask what it means, call someone else it etc and eventually bellend will be the new cultural buzzword in the states. That would make me so bloody proud I'd do a little cry.

Done and done. There's a cheeky little fellow that hangs out at the Pub I go to. Tonight he was talking bad about american baseball again. I said something to the fact that he stop being a bellend and let us watch the game. I think beer spewed out his nose as he started to laugh/cough spastically; then he bought me a pint for giving him a good laugh in the Kings English.

God bless you. You've put a smile on my English mush.

I hope that the joy of 'bellend' is spreading to you stateside, it's such a good insult, cheeky and fun. What more could you want?

Interesting fact: In Peckham (an area of London next to the one I live in) there's a street called Bellenden Avenue. I have never laughed so hard as when I saw the street sign.

I apologise for the complete and utter de-railing of this thread.

Who cares about the Derailing, you made me laugh with that street name

So, if you call someone a bellend and they punch you, do you end up with a mushroom bruise?

I'm heading to the Pub. I'm sure there's going to be some more bellend-ing tonight.

I'll be using the "different squad members having their own 'wound pool'" trick for my crisis suits because it's the only way to mitigate the yet-again broken shield drones.

Does the new rules breaks the shield drones agains?

What is it with GW?

2001 Tau launched
2004 Shield drones broken by 4th ed
2006 Shield drones fixed by new codex
2008 Shield drones broken by 5th ed

This is conclusive proof that GW have created a system which they are not capable of maintaining in a working order.

I dont play 40k, but you dont have to in order to know what kind of jerk plays games like that.

I wonder if he thought a bunch of 11 year olds would show up and he could bully them around and feel like a big man...


I hate that crap...

Kilkrazy wrote:Does the new rules breaks the shield drones agains?

What is it with GW?

2001 Tau launched
2004 Shield drones broken by 4th ed
2006 Shield drones not fixed by new codex
2008 Shield drones broken by 5th ed

This is conclusive proof that GW have created a system which they are not capable of maintaining in a working order.

Fixed your typo.

Yes it was. They fixed them by adopting my suggestion that the shield drone takes the armour and toughness of the character it's attached to.

Kilkrazy wrote:Does the new rules breaks the shield drones agains?

Sure. Unless you don't equip anything on the crisis suits, which makes them illegal, they're carrying equipment not on the shield drones. Therefore, separate wounds against separate models. Worse is when a group of bolters rapid fire into suits, kill them, and the drones survive. Drones auto-destruct right afterwards. Fun times.