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 Uriels_Flame wrote:
Drones are working...

They gotta feed their robofamilies

Personally, I'd say the issue with the models blending together in the picture is a lack of highlighting. There isn't enough red on the models to make it work as a secondary color; you could argue that there's more black or grey on the models than red in many cases. White is also a monolithic color in that it tends to dominate the space unless contained by strong color contrast.

 TheNewBlood wrote:
Personally, I'd say the issue with the models blending together in the picture is a lack of highlighting. There isn't enough red on the models to make it work as a secondary color; you could argue that there's more black or grey on the models than red in many cases. White is also a monolithic color in that it tends to dominate the space unless contained by strong color contrast.

The red heads on the Tau suits in the pic serve the same function as the red helmets do on Ultramarines and denote the squad leader (Shas'vre/Veteran Sergeant).

For the record I've got my tau in black primer than zamessi desert over that and some XV 88 and different browns ect. My whole army isn't done yet though. I hate highlighting and shading so much I've put it off on the majority of my models. Only been painting for a year now. (First army). These are from a few months after I first started painting.

 Vineheart01 wrote:
Im not a fan of primary white color schemes. Its kinda shrill and white also has a staining problem. Heck even the tiny white strips i put on my purple/green tau scheme gives me issues. Ive honestly thought about going over all my models and repaint that white to a light grey because it gives me that much of a headache.

A good solution for white models is to make your base color an off-white; for instance, ulthuan grey or rakkarth flesh, and then highlight with white. It looks better anyways, because the pure white color is as bright as it gets, and you need something for those highlights. I agree that very light colored models stain too easily with handling, though.

 Talys wrote:

 Vineheart01 wrote:
Im not a fan of primary white color schemes. Its kinda shrill and white also has a staining problem. Heck even the tiny white strips i put on my purple/green tau scheme gives me issues. Ive honestly thought about going over all my models and repaint that white to a light grey because it gives me that much of a headache.

A good solution for white models is to make your base color an off-white; for instance, ulthuan grey or rakkarth flesh, and then highlight with white. It looks better anyways, because the pure white color is as bright as it gets, and you need something for those highlights. I agree that very light colored models stain too easily with handling, though.

Alternatively, do like I do and shade with Nuln Oil. If is isn't off-white to start, it sure will be by the end!

This raises a point, we've seen the transfer sheet for Vior'la, but are there any other sept colours in the box?

All my current Tau use black/white markings and are in a desert shade that just won't work with that colour.

I think unfortunately, the Vior'la sept transfers will be the standard, but GW might sell an updated T'au transfer sheet through the website. After all, they are selling both T'au and Vior'la sept paint sets through the website. They'll probably be complete butts and put T'au sept vehicle decals in the vehicle boxes and Vior'la sept infantry/suit decals in the infantry and suit boxes.

"Godbreaker Clash"

Well if the Ork Mega-Gargant that was actually called "Godbreaker" is showing up - none of these war machines are going to stand any chance.

You need at the very least an Imperator Titan to even withstand the first salvo of fire............

Personally I think the ochre scheme would look more interesting than the stark white scheme if you weathered it up like they did the new models, but whatever.

I'd be surprised if they did transfers for different septs, honestly; the Vior'la transfers are probably the new standard, like it was said. If Tau were Space Marines however we'd have pages and pages worth of transfers.

 Mr Morden wrote:
"Godbreaker Clash"

Well if the Ork Mega-Gargant that was actually called "Godbreaker" is showing up - none of these war machines are going to stand any chance.

You need at the very least an Imperator Titan to even withstand the first salvo of fire............

And since when does marketing take into account fluff? Tsk tsk

"Godbreaker Clash"

Well if the Ork Mega-Gargant that was actually called "Godbreaker" is showing up - none of these war machines are going to stand any chance.

You need at the very least an Imperator Titan to even withstand the first salvo of fire............

Who dat? Any info on it?

 Gamgee wrote:
For the record I like the white scheme of Tau as opposed to their Ochre.

I simultaneously think it's awesome and also hate it.

I really like it, because I thought of that exact colour scheme (with a slightly brighter red) about a year and a half ago.

I dislike it because I've been waiting for the new codex before starting a Tau army, and now everyone is going to be using the same paint scheme as me

On the plus side, I can make my infiltration strike force army idea now, with pathfinders, loads of stealth stuff and some deep striking stuff to back them up once they're in position.

Lol agreed damn you GW that was my paint job! Lol

Never mind but yeah I was a little peeved but I guess White red black is hardly ground breaking.

My tau:
Personnaly can't wait to get ghost keel as a centre to my stealth suits, I paint them in a mix of my normal scheme and an active camo scheme, I hope pathfinders get stealth or some stealth drones, they need that cover. I can see me moving away from the shock n awe tau force I originally was building to a more stealth and infiltrate army.

Having stealth drones as an option for other units would be awesome, however I don't feel like it will be the case. Much like Missile drones that only Broadsides can take, and SMDs for riptides, I feel like the stealth drones the XV95 gets will be unique to that unit entry (also considering that they come automatically with both of the drones the kit makes, there's no extras technically to go in other units).

That all being said, the pathfinders themselves have a couple of unique drones and I could see maybe one of them getting a rule that grants stealth or shrouded while the drone survives. OR possibly the "pathfinder +XYZ" formation we will likely have grants it as a USR for taking the formation. Time will tell -- this release has me antsy. I can't wait to start building my stormsurge suit(s?) this weekend.

Unless theres a different T4 drone i would be rather shocked if that drone is a universal drone. I could see Pathfinders getting it, but T4 instead of T5 and thats it.
Im also hoping i get my Stormsurge soon. I got a lot of kitbashing to do on that ugly ass thing to make it look proper lol

 TheNewBlood wrote:

 Talys wrote:

 Vineheart01 wrote:
Im not a fan of primary white color schemes. Its kinda shrill and white also has a staining problem. Heck even the tiny white strips i put on my purple/green tau scheme gives me issues. Ive honestly thought about going over all my models and repaint that white to a light grey because it gives me that much of a headache.

A good solution for white models is to make your base color an off-white; for instance, ulthuan grey or rakkarth flesh, and then highlight with white. It looks better anyways, because the pure white color is as bright as it gets, and you need something for those highlights. I agree that very light colored models stain too easily with handling, though.

Alternatively, do like I do and shade with Nuln Oil. If is isn't off-white to start, it sure will be by the end!

Actually i use Nuln Oil to darkshade everything and fill in the cracks. I purposely paint the white AFTER the wash because it makes the white look ugly as hell to me.
This is my Riptide i painted a couple days ago

I have tried so many times to find a way to make that little bit of white easier to paint. Never looks right lol. My vehicles are the only ones that have a lot of white though so its not that big a deal.
Skyray:


That thing was a pain in the butt, but looks great

And im the same way someone mentioned with the red caps. All my helmets are white unless i need to annotate a character, then hes red. Firewarriors are purple helmets with one half color coded the other half purple or red depending on character or not. Considering theres no major modeling difference it works great.

 Vineheart01 wrote:

And im the same way someone mentioned with the red caps. All my helmets are white unless i need to annotate a character, then hes red. Firewarriors are purple helmets with one half color coded the other half purple or red depending on character or not. Considering theres no major modeling difference it works great.

I always like reading how different people represent there squad leaders in their armies. For my Fire Warrior squads I painted the shoulder pads a different color, and each squad leader is different, so I have a red squad, blue squad, etc.

hokieseas wrote:

 Vineheart01 wrote:

And im the same way someone mentioned with the red caps. All my helmets are white unless i need to annotate a character, then hes red. Firewarriors are purple helmets with one half color coded the other half purple or red depending on character or not. Considering theres no major modeling difference it works great.

I always like reading how different people represent there squad leaders in their armies. For my Fire Warrior squads I painted the shoulder pads a different color, and each squad leader is different, so I have a red squad, blue squad, etc.

Heres mine


Theres also light blue and gray squads. I havent made a 5th yet because i seldom field more than 4 squads, though i need to bump their numbers to 12 since i adopted a heavy devilfish list ive been maxing squads instead of 10 models.
Not sure what other colors i could use that wouldnt meld into the normal color scheme or clash with the red-cap annotations. Did Gray as the 4th because i was about to do red then realized wait....i'd cause issues with the squad leader red....

All the Tau are back on GW site! Now the clean white with red highlights! Woot!

The thing that irks me about the white color scheme is that (at least in my mind, an some fluff iirc) the Tau, more than any playable race) adapt their armor colors to their theater their fighting in (this is why sept colors and markings are a god idea). While this is 40k and bright liveries are to be expected, the Tau, infantry especially, should be falling back on camouflage in most combat situations.
My Tau, for example, hail from the Ke'lshan Sept but wear olive drab armor and fatigues specialized to fighting in a deathworld jungle environment. The larger models use a light tan to break up the solid green.
I really wish I could post pics, but alas I have no phone or camera...

 Squidmanlolz wrote:
The thing that irks me about the white color scheme is that (at least in my mind, an some fluff iirc) the Tau, more than any playable race) adapt their armor colors to their theater their fighting in (this is why sept colors and markings are a god idea). While this is 40k and bright liveries are to be expected, the Tau, infantry especially, should be falling back on camouflage in most combat situations.
My Tau, for example, hail from the Ke'lshan Sept but wear olive drab armor and fatigues specialized to fighting in a deathworld jungle environment. The larger models use a light tan to break up the solid green.
I really wish I could post pics, but alas I have no phone or camera...

Parade colours. These are meant to impress and inspire, not for fighting.

hokieseas wrote:

 Vineheart01 wrote:

And im the same way someone mentioned with the red caps. All my helmets are white unless i need to annotate a character, then hes red. Firewarriors are purple helmets with one half color coded the other half purple or red depending on character or not. Considering theres no major modeling difference it works great.

I always like reading how different people represent there squad leaders in their armies. For my Fire Warrior squads I painted the shoulder pads a different color, and each squad leader is different, so I have a red squad, blue squad, etc.

My shas'ui wear comlink antennae things and left shoulder pads in the Sept color (in my case yellow). Shas'vre and Shas'el get yellow helmets/sensor arrays. Shas'o wear inverted armor colors (yellow armor with olive drab markings, helmets, etc).

 krazynadechukr wrote:
All the Tau are back on GW site! Now the clean white with red highlights! Woot!

The Pathfinders look absolutely stunning in that color scheme.

 Kanluwen wrote:

 krazynadechukr wrote:
All the Tau are back on GW site! Now the clean white with red highlights! Woot!

The Pathfinders look absolutely stunning in that color scheme.

I particularly like the Stealth Team

I have an almost indecent love for the new scheme of the Devilfish and Pathfinders.

 Squidmanlolz wrote:
The thing that irks me about the white color scheme is that (at least in my mind, an some fluff iirc) the Tau, more than any playable race) adapt their armor colors to their theater their fighting in (this is why sept colors and markings are a god idea). While this is 40k and bright liveries are to be expected, the Tau, infantry especially, should be falling back on camouflage in most combat situations.
My Tau, for example, hail from the Ke'lshan Sept but wear olive drab armor and fatigues specialized to fighting in a deathworld jungle environment. The larger models use a light tan to break up the solid green.
I really wish I could post pics, but alas I have no phone or camera...

The thing about camo in space is that it gets boring when every alien biome is identical to an Earth biome. A universal urban camoflauge for attacking Imperial urban centers makes sense. But the general rule that green is for jungles, white is for snow, and tan is for desert schemes is really just due to lack of imagination. That rule isn't even consistent within our own solar system.


I guess the jungles, at least, could have been seeded by Imperials anytime in the last 20,000 years, but would it kill GW to do orange-chlorophyl jungles and green snows and bright yellow sulphurous deserts?

Damn, those pathfinders do look cool in that scheme. I quite like the Tau sept scheme but this one's awesome.

cheers
Kahnawake

I can't help but notice that the Crisis Suits and Fire Warriors HAVEN'T been repainted in the new color scheme. More evidence that the Striker/Breaker box is replacing the Fire Warrior box and that the Enforcer/Coldstar box is replacing the Crisis Suit box?

I found a leaked pic of the XV86.



In seriousness though, I'm curious how they will do this one. It's probably the part of this release I am most excited about, model wise.

 Kriswall wrote:
I can't help but notice that the Crisis Suits and Fire Warriors HAVEN'T been repainted in the new color scheme. More evidence that the Striker/Breaker box is replacing the Fire Warrior box and that the Enforcer/Coldstar box is replacing the Crisis Suit box?

I'd say it is safe to assume that the kits that are in white on GW site will be the "new" (continuing) kits & the ORANGE on GW are yet to be replaced with the new models (hence they have not made the OLD crisis suit in the white because there are NEW suits coming).....