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The Boarding Plank that can be attached to Ork trukks lets a single embarked Ork to make its close combat attacks against an enemy vehicle within 2" exactly as if the Ork were disembarked and charging, provided neither vehicle has moved more than 12".

That's the rule.

Scenario: Trukk full of Nobs stop next to a Dreadnought. (11 Boyz, 1 Nob with powerklaw). Trukk drops its assault ramp during the assault phase and the Nob rushes over to the dreadnought screaming WAAAAUGH! and swinging its power klaw.

What happens now? The dreadnought and the squad can't be locked into combat because the orks stay embarked. Does the Dreadnought get to attack back? If it does, would it go in initiative order? If so, the Nob with the Powerklaw would be attacking last at Initiative 1. What happens if the Dread causes a wound? Does the Nob die? The rules say that the defenders assign wounds...does that mean that an Ork in the trukk dies if so chosen? That doesn't make any sense if so.

Someone clarify for me what happens in this scenario please.

It's up in the air. Spencer says it wasn't really meant or intended for use against Walkers that attack back. By the strictest reading I can manage, the Nob can attack with impunity and the Walker can't attack back because nothing in the description says it can.

If you play any other way, problems begin to occur. For example, how do you allocate the attack-back wounds? On the one hand, they should be able to be transferred to the squad that the Nob is part of. On the other, it says nothing about them being involved in the combat. How would you resolve the non-existant assault if the Nob "lost" the combat?

assaults happen as normal, the dread gets his swings everything happens as normal, you just get to do a single model drive by attack. Normally its used against vehicles w/o a weapon skill, because the dread is just going to choose to attack the trukk. in which case he will proceed to crush it, making your boys disembark, then he will charge the boys next turn (or give them some flamer lovin). Dont try and read into the boarding plank it does what it does and thats it, if you choose to assault a veh. with a WS it gets to fight back all you do is fight one round of CC as normal.

There's so much about what you wrote that is completely wrong by the rules.

Boarding Plank:

Orks often employ hinged planks that allow them to make daring attacks on nearby vehicles. A boarding plank allows a single mebarked Ork to make its close combat attacks against an enemy vehicle within 2" exactly as if the Ork were disembarked and charging, provided neither vehicle has moved more than 12".

The Dread can't attack the Trukk. The Trukk isn't involved in the combat. There's nothing that really indicates the Dread can attack at all, although I'm sure the opposing player will feel that this is abusive on your part.

If you go by exactly what the Boarding plank specifies and add nothing else to the rule, this is exactly what it looks like:

Nob gets 4 attacks (3 base +1 charging) against the vehicle at Str 9 (Power Klaw + Furious Charge). Hits/Pens are resolved as normal. If the vehicle explodes, the Nob can be caught in it because although he is still embarked in a transport he counts as disembarked.

You're saying that if a boarding plank drops onto a dread, the dread gets attacks back against the trukk? Then it would be the trukk assaulting the dread, which makes no sense. The boarding plank rule specifically mentions the ork is assaulting the vehicle, not the trukk.

Sourclams, you got in before me - my previous post was directed at the guy who posted before you.

Boarding Plank:

Orks often employ hinged planks that allow them to make daring attacks on nearby vehicles. A boarding plank allows a single mebarked Ork to make its close combat attacks against an enemy vehicle within 2" exactly as if the Ork were disembarked and charging, provided neither vehicle has moved more than 12".

going by RAW it would simply be a standard fight between the ork and the dread, trukk and other boyz wouldnt be involved.
so long story short, unless you want your ork nob stomped into a paste, assult walkers normally.

plank is bloody useful against AV14's though
red paint job + plank + klaw nob = mobile tank hunters.
allthough, hide until close enough, throwing a trukk at a land raider wouldnt end well.

As I said before in the Ironclad post..

The words "..exactly as if the Ork disembarked and charging..." means by RAW its pretty clear what happens.

I dont see how this is a problem as truck mounted tankbusta squad with a nob included wielding a tank-hammer. I think that people have an issue with it because the worshipped powerklaw just isnt viable in this sitatuon.

Theres no reason for there to be an issue here with either RAW or RAI.

RAW is as above. RAI.. well the glorious thing about being able to have a swing at a walker-vehicle in particular is that you can 'ave a go then drive off without havig to be locked in combat.

Razerous wrote:As I said before in the Ironclad post..

The words "..exactly as if the Ork disembarked and charging..." means by RAW its pretty clear what happens.

I dont see how this is a problem as truck mounted tankbusta squad with a nob included wielding a tank-hammer. I think that people have an issue with it because the worshipped powerklaw just isnt viable in this sitatuon.

Seriously--if you can't hide a Nob with a powerklaw in a squad of 29 boyz and give them 4+ cover saves as they march towards the enemy what good are they?

im happy to use klaws from planks, but only on things that dont fight back
dreads will be a drive by tank hammer job

olympia wrote:

Razerous wrote:As I said before in the Ironclad post..

The words "..exactly as if the Ork disembarked and charging..." means by RAW its pretty clear what happens.

I dont see how this is a problem as truck mounted tankbusta squad with a nob included wielding a tank-hammer. I think that people have an issue with it because the worshipped powerklaw just isnt viable in this sitatuon.

Seriously--if you can't hide a Nob with a powerklaw in a squad of 29 boyz and give them 4+ cover saves as they march towards the enemy what good are they?

For giving them a tank hammer so they can make ride-by attacks in a trukk with a boardin plank with I4 str 10 attacks. Quite a few of them too I imagine.

only 4 to be exact

hit on a 4+, so thats 2 hits.
glance 3's and pen 4's.
so 1 pen, then hope for the best.

and its nearly 3am, so im off to bed

Please try using the search feature before making a new thread. At the very least if you feel the question wasn't answered in the last thread and you want to continue it in a new thread you should be referencing the last thread on the topic:

http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/219426.page#395938


As I said in that thread, the Boarding plank allows the model to make an attack. It does not say the models are locked in combat and there is absolutely no indication that the walker would get to strike back.

Sorry. :( I typically don't search through forums - I'll make more of an effort to. Feel free to lock this thread!

I can kiiiinda of see where the logic is behind that argument. I dont like it but I guess I can accept it.

Ive got solace in the fact that no dredenought should be at risk from that tactic as if a vehicle moves more than 12" it cant make the attack. Along as the walker doesnt move into this 12" threat range, any vehicle wanting to try this tactic will have to deal with a counter-charge from DCCW's. Although granted thats relient on a good judgement call. Works both ways.

Locking thread as it is finished and duplicates another thread.