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Nice! Looking forward to the rest!

Agreed!

Once you get a few more pics up in it, let me know and I'll post a front page notice about it. It's so good that everyone needs to be alerted!

Thanks! Hopefully I'll get it all filled out in the next day or two.

Those pictures look great it's an amazing army.

i must say, this makes me very jealous!
amazing, simply amazing!

this needs to be book marked
may i ask how long it took you to find all of these models?
and also, a rough price?

(if you dont want to go into this then you do not need to)

the nobs are works of pure genius, the smallest guy is my favorite one.

Thanks for the kind words, everyone.

I don't really know the overall cost. The individual prices depend on when and how I obtained them. I got about 40 Hybrids and the Ash Waste Gangers when I bought a guy's 40K collection. Those were pretty cheap.

I also bought a chunk of Hybrids at a GT in one of those old Trollboss Bob bitz by weight deals. I think those cost me $1.75 apiece. If I'd known then what I know now, I would have bought 150 of the things.

The rest -- minis, bitz and supplies -- weren't cheap. If you're looking for metal Hybrids, be prepared to pay around $5-10 apiece. Overall, I guess the cost was pretty high, but I got lucky that it wasn't completely ridiculous.

Wow amazing, i wanna see it when you add more and more units to that army.

GAWD! (excuse my language)

But still that is incredible!

Great job mate.

Exellent!


Because of you I am grtting a nids codex,rock on man hope the army kicks @#$$%!!

Absolutely awesome. Great color scheme too!

Just curious, how has the 'counts as' army been received by GW and other opponents in tournaments and friendly games?

I have a 'counts as' army I would like to work on, but I'd have to use one of the codexes that is unrelated to the topic army. I'm sure there'd be confusion despite my explanation of each unit, etc... Any thoughts on the subject?

Thanks in advance.

I like it.

Looking through the models and what they were supposed to represent there wasn't anything that seemed like it didn't fit.

I think it's natural for an opponent to have a slight bit of trepidation when facing a counts-as army. What you have to do is 1) make sure your counts-as works well, and 2) take time to walk them through it. In my army, any time you see a Hybrid, it has an Ork Boy statline. That's pretty easy once you know what you're looking at. Usually once the game got underway, people "got it" and became pretty comfortable.

One thing I underestimated is how little people knew about GCults. So while I thought a Patriarch as Warboss is just an obvious and natural fit, it required explanation up front. Here's an interesting point -- IIRC, I didn't get a single Player's Choice vote. Now, Player's Choice is a different animal than Best Appearance and involves different strategies if you're seeking that award. But I'm fairly confident that one factor that worked against me for PC is that some players had no idea what a GCult is or should look like. They were probably scratching their heads a little.

So the exact nature of your counts-as is another variable. For instance, players probably have a decent grasp of what an Adeptus Mechanicus or Kroot army should look like. Jokaero, not so much. Players would probably be more comfy with the AM or Kroot. The GW guys at the event were pretty supportive of my army, although there you're talking about veteran gamers who might be nostaglic for GCults and the like.

IMO, it's kind of a crime that GCults were left behind, because they're very characterful and a really important army from the early days of the game. I realize there may be no place for them in the business plan, but it still seems wrong there's no place for them in the game except as counts-as. Oh well.

Beautiful army.

If I was it's mommy or daddy, I would be a proud parent too.



If anyone's army was worthy of reviving old Rogue Trader era art to honor it, this would be the army.



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Wanted to say what a great job you've done with the GCA, it's really beautiful, the desert theme reminds and ramshackle nature reminds me of the rebel guys that fall under the sway of Spock's brother in the star trek film The Final Frontier (5th movie I think). It's not only original to recreate an orphaned army, but that your cult looks very different from the original cult armies is also great.

Your choice of counts as though, that is kinda odd to me for one reason, the purestrains. Do you field heavies in the blood axe kommandos? It would just feel abit 'weird' to be using ranged weapons from them.

Otherwise top marks, this is really a refreshing and beautiful army.

every thing looks great! just a quick question:
did you intend the acolytes to look like dungeons and dragons mind flayers?

The Purestrains didn't have any rokkits. I did have a couple burnas in them, which I repped with the Acid Maw Genestealer heads (the idea being they either spray victims with acid or use it when they bite). In Phase 2, I'm thinking about adding some dripping "acid" from their jaws to make them prominent. The one "counts-as" catch in the army is the sluggas on the Kommandos. In my list I just called them spinebanks. I'll probably model them up better in Phase 2 also. Not that I really fire the sluggas much anyway.

The Acolytes/Nobs weren't intended to look like mind flayers, but I realized it soon after I started working on them. So I shrugged and went with it. It's probably better to ask GW why their tendril heads look so much like mind flayer heads.

yeah,
This is a amazing army!
I love the detail, and i can see you spent a long time painting it.

But I'm not convinced that the ork codex was chosen for a counts as purly on fit...
With the bulk of the army made of hybrids, I think that you should have based the army on a human stat line and used some sort of guard army list with or without daemon/witch hunter allies....

Panic....

Remember the timeline here. When I first considered Orks for counts-as, the *old* Ork codex was in play.

A few thoughts:

1) Here's the Genestealer Hybrid Neophyte statline in the 2nd edition Tyranid codex:

M4 WS4 BS2 S4 T3 W1 I5 A1 Ld8

If someone else wants to do a GCult based mainly on ranks and ranks of Brood Brothers, IG should be a great fit. IMO, Hybrids are more than human and should have a non-human statline. And this army is Hybrid-based.

2) Ranks of stationary shooters is not how I envision a GCult to operate. I personally imagine mobs of marching militia, light fast vehicles, commandeered heavy vehicles and plenty of close combat troops. IMO, Orks (and LatD) have a much better feel.

3) If you want to fund the cost of the few dozen additional Hybrids I'd need to field them as IG, I'll consider it. Remember...they're getting as much as $10 apiece on eBay.

4) I'm not about to put that kind of time into a count-as based on the Inquisition books after what happened to LatD. That particular shoe's going to be next to drop< IMO. So no thank you.

5) IG generally aren't interesting to me and were never a real consideration.

yeah,
It is a hard army to find a perfect counts as... it's a shame you lost legal access to LatD.
I'm also in awe of anyone who spends their time making a army that doesn't have a legal codex.

the future of the hunters?
I think the deamon/witch hunters will get a combined codex. it's the only current main codex that has a focus on allied codexs and while this something that GW seems to be cutting down on, allies is what these codex are kinda about... how the imperial departments/forces interact.

But I'm not sure on the time scale for the new codex, but both curent hunter codex refer to the old SM and current (soon to be old) Guard codex, So I guess they are next in line? if there is no allies in the new codex, Maybe they will list the SM/Guard units you can borrow directly inside the hunter codex...

...and All armies need tweaking when their new codex lands...

Panic...

Those buggies are sweeeeet! I think that they look much coooler than the ork buggy, and fit much better into the army!

Great work here! Excellent conversions and paint jobs all around. Wish I'd been at the event to see them in person!
-Tim

Thanks, fellow Patriarch! Means a lot coming from the guy who helped keep GCults in the general consciousness of 40K players!

Excellent army, I think it was best of show by far, and everyone I know agrees with me! I'm excited to see what the second stage looks like.

Great work!

What army is it actualy?

Orks (read the opening few paragraphs).

Been away from this army for a while, but I'll probably be back working on it and updating my blog come fall.

Looks absolutely amazing. Love the Patriarch.

This is great stuff. The first issue of White Dwarf I ever bought had the cult army list.

How did you make the broodlord?