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Hi all... who would like to speculate for the next umpteen months until more leaks or actuall release...

(A) What is the (estimated, suggested, surmised, guessed) relevance / weapon fitout / points cost, etc of the GW Vendetta part of the GW Valkyrie family kit

(B) What is the relevance of the GW Vendetta in relation to the FW Vulture

Mik

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Brisbane, Australia

I have my opinion... I'd like to hear yours.

We currently have game facts about the FW Valkyrie and FW Vulture presented in FW's IA Part 1.

The Valkyrie is a VTOL (etc) Troop transporter... such as the Huey chopper of Vietnam era (etc).

The Vulture is a VTOL (etc) Gunship... such as the Huey Cobra chopper of Vietnam era (etc).

Based on info from BoLS (and others) and the GW Open Day pics, we are led to believe that the GW Vendetta is a VTOL (etc) Support Gunship of the Valkyrie family... such as the Huey Gunship chopper of Vietnam era (etc).

As such, we are informed (by FW IA Pt1) that the FW Valkyrie has...

2x Door mounted Heavy Bolters
1x Hull mounted Multi Laser OR Lascannon

And two underwing Hardpoint mounts (one on each wing) which can fit either...
2x External fuel drop tanks (NOT in the GW kit), or
2x Multiple rocket pods, or
2x Hellstrike missiles

We are also informed by the same source that the FW Vulture has...

1x Chin mounted Heavy bolter

Four underwing Hardpoint mounts (two on each wing) which can fit either...

For Hardpoint 1...
2x External fuel drop tanks, or
2x Multiple rocket pods, or
2x Quad missile launcher tubes, or
2x Autocannon, or
2x Lascanon, or
2x Multi Laser

For Hardpoint 2...
2x External fuel drop tanks, or
2x Multiple rocket pods, or
2x Bomb rack (3 bombs each), or
2x Bomb rack (3 smart bombs each), or
2x Hunter Killer missile rack (3 missiles each), or
2x Hellstrike missiles

Now the info so far on the GW Vendetta indicates that it has the same fitout as the FW Valkyrie (less the drop tanks at the moment) but also has the four underwing hardpoints of the FW Vulture

However, at the moment the only weapon fitout is...

2x Multiple rocket pods, and
2x Hellstrike missiles

Of course all possible variations of the above combinations does exist.

Of note... check out the FW IA Apocalypse book page 22...

Shows an Elysian Drop Infantry Platoon using FW (obviously) Valkyries for transport...

Check out the underwing fitout... FOUR hardpoints...

THAT is a Vendetta

What do you think

Mik

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Rumours about what is happenning with a NEW vehicle

Opinion and dissection of any info (such as Open Day pics) to assertain such end result

News and Rumours

Trying to vet out the new vehicle... Vendetta

Using News (Open Day pics) and Rumours (Is it true that FW are bringing out upgrade kits for the GW Valkyrie?)

I thought it was the place to put such a thread

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that sounds about right, having a Gunship model of the Valk... So are we looking at another kit with a bigger set of wings (2 hardpoints) and weapons fit, or a FW add on/upgrade?

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Brisbane, Australia

Another question...

Some posters have commented on the nose mounted Heavy bolter on the GW Valkyrie... Even H.B.M.C.

It LOOKS like a Heavy bolter in a lot of the pics from Open Day... however, there is no "barrel" or supressor evident, and some are painted up like sensor arrays.

Also, there are no stats for such in all the FW IA books.

An observation

Mik


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According to the GW Open Day pics... its the GW Valkyrie kit and you either glue two OR four bits on.

The kit is advertised as the GW Valkyrie / Vendetta kit

It is rumoured (by Je$ter at AmmoBunker) that FW intend to release FW upgrade kits for the GW plastic Valkyrie kit

Of course no date given

Mik

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If your topic is only speculative or a question, PLEASE PUT QUESTION MARKS ON THE SUBJECT LINE! That way people won't come in to this thread expecting confirmed rumors.

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Over what Brook?

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That I've just shaven my legs, arms, face, knuckles and pits.

No, not that. That's so I can get in on ladies night.

Rather, this thread and your oddball posts. I don't see any questions, I just see odd tidbits of info and sentences vaguely going on about the Valkyrie and Vendetta.

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Brisbane, Australia

Brook, Simply put...

The Vendetta is rumoured to be in the same box as the Valkyrie

The Vendetta has news (pics) and rumour stating that it has four hardpoints instead of the two for the Valkyrie (thus making it a Vendetta instead... so the rumour goes)

Rumour has it having a nose Heavy bolter

Rumour says that FW......... etc

Yes, the thread a question, and related news, and relevant rumours

One of the replies to this thread asked 'what is a Vendetta'... not everyone knows... giving out news again

What do YOU thing about the Vendetta, etc... on one of your posts in reply to the recent IG thread you went into great detail as to the points value of a GW Valkyrie

This is no different, except it's a Vendetta instead of a Valkyrie

It was not that long ago that verbal fights broke out just discussing a FW OR a GW Valkyrie in a picture.

I AM THE ONE CONFUSED... I hope you understand a bit more now

Mik



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Most, if not all of this has been discussed in the Imperial Guard rumour thread.

Please add a question mark to the threat title.

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I have read, as far as one CAN read every recent IG / Valkyrie thread and post from many Blog sites, and none has spoken at any length on the Vendetta - the new one.

All have concentrated on the Valkyrie - the different one

I love the Valkyrie and I want to try an assertain more about the Vendetta... and so must others

Have you checked out the IA Apocalypse pic... do you think that complies with the known Vendetta info?

Mik

PS... I thought adding the word Questions would suffice

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The Vendetta is the gunship version of the Valkyrie and as far as I know it has extra weapon hard points under the wings. The painted example shown has rocket pods and hellstrike missiles plus a lascannon, but NO nose mounted heavy bolter.

Other than that, nothing else is known.

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Thank you for your input Brook

Maybe we (I) will find a more positive response from other readers who really are interested in working out info on the Vendetta later on in the day... hopefully

Or maybe not (not as interesting as the Valkyrie posibly)... however, as said, when I've cleaned my pants while waiting for the release... THEN we will all know for sure

As with ALL GW releases, we will know all AFTER the release date and never before!

Mik

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Because it is. http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd242/hmdznrcld/white-vendetta.jpg
   
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Does IT have two or four hardpoints?

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TWO hardpoints PER wing.

What ELSE is there TO work out? No other info IS known other THAN a reference sheet ENRTY and a picture from the OPEN Studio day.

Now if you could excuse me, I still need my MAKE UP and fake boobs fitted.

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Brook, my last question was in relation to Scottys White Vendetta pic

Mik

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I've got ONE "hard point" while I'm driving that baby!

EDIT: Or maybe it is all this discussion of BrookM dressed as a woman. 50-50 perhaps.

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Scottywan82 wrote:I've got ONE "hard point" while I'm driving that baby!

EDIT: Or maybe it is all this discussion of BrookM dressed as a woman. 50-50 perhaps.
Nothing too fancy, think of the Monthy Python drag, complete with horrible falsetto voice. But hey, free drinks! These girlish looks while finally come in handy for once!

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@Lord Castellan Mik

sorry mate. Looks like you seem to know as much about this subject as anyone else at le moment.

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I agree and believe the Vendetta to be like a Razorback or Falcon:

- reduced Transport for extra Guns

In this case, the extra guns are the additional hardpoints on the wings. The Vendetta probably trades some Transport for the door gunners.

So I think we have a 2-in-1 Valkyrie kit, just like the Baneblade, Crusader, and Shadowsword.

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The question that I have, though, similar to the Falcon/Waveserpent comparison - is what units are able to take Valkyries as dedicated transports? Or is it solely lodged in the FA slot?

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I think one can expect Stormtroopers to have access to Valkyries - I can't imagine it being a full-Platoon option.

But if GW really wants to pimp those models, who knows...

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No, I can't see them making it a full platoon option either, although I'm hoping that Vet Squads will be able to take them, too (Otherwise my ideas for an Apocalypse Now-style Catachan force will require some heavier infantry than I'd like to take - either that or I'll have to figure out what Catachan Stormtroopers look like!)

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