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A little birdie....


DeathKnight

Heavy Support slot.

Can only be taken if a Haemonculi is chosen as Warlord.

WS 5
BS 3
S 9
T 8
W 5
I 6
A 5
LD 9


£85

 SarisKhan wrote:

blaktoof wrote:
oddly I hope the court of the archon remains...I actually like using those random guys. reminds me of star wars somehow with the cantina with all the random aliens in it.

They have models so they are likely to stay. I'm more worried about the poor sods who currently don't have official models.

Lady Malys .... quite possibly the coolest character

itsNot2ndEd wrote:
Can only be taken if a Haemonculi is chosen as Warlord.

This right here should tell you that it's complete bullgak.

 lord_blackfang wrote:

itsNot2ndEd wrote:
Can only be taken if a Haemonculi is chosen as Warlord.

This right here should tell you that it's complete bullgak.

I thought they stoped limiting choices by characters ?

If it was going to be a coven unit, it's highly doubtful it would be called a "DeathKnight." Coven creations tend to be pain engines of one sort or another. And Coven already has the Talos and Chronos in HS, this would step on those.

 whembly wrote:

 extremefreak17 wrote:
Maybe we can get an EW relic?

If any DE characters gets EW... it better damned by Vect!

He does have better things to do than die.

I like the Shadowfield as is - it does not need to be better - sometimes its awesome and sometimes another Archon had a spy inflitrate your Kabal and had it glitched for fun so it fails immediately

He does have better things to do than die.

Dark Eldar nobles don't die permently as long as they left something behind

 Mr Morden wrote:
I like the Shadowfield as is - it does not need to be better - sometimes its awesome and sometimes another Archon had a spy inflitrate your Kabal and had it glitched for fun so it fails immediately

He does have better things to do than die.

Dark Eldar nobles don't die permently as long as they left something behind

Assuming someone is kind enough to regrow them... In DE society

 Red Corsair wrote:

 Mr Morden wrote:
I like the Shadowfield as is - it does not need to be better - sometimes its awesome and sometimes another Archon had a spy inflitrate your Kabal and had it glitched for fun so it fails immediately

He does have better things to do than die.

Dark Eldar nobles don't die permently as long as they left something behind

Assuming someone is kind enough to regrow them... In DE society

But that's exactly the haemonculi's job and what the Archons pay them for. I imagine they'd lose clientele pretty fast if they did not hold their end of the bargain.

itsNot2ndEd wrote:
A little birdie....


DeathKnight

Heavy Support slot.

Can only be taken if a Haemonculi is chosen as Warlord.

WS 5
BS 3
S 9
T 8
W 5
I 6
A 5
LD 9


£85

So someone took a wraith knight, tweaked the name and a few stats and is claiming it to be a rumor?

It's flat out worse then a WK btw, and probably walks to boot so it must be true

But seriously, I think it would be awesome if DE got a coven FMC. It would keep them diferent from their cousins while being suitably awesome and dark.

A unit that can only be chosen if you take another unit first? Usually it's that units change FOC when you take certain HQ units. Or it's FOC-less units that are unlocked by certain HQ.

I'm not buying it.

 Red Corsair wrote:

itsNot2ndEd wrote:
A little birdie....


DeathKnight

Heavy Support slot.

Can only be taken if a Haemonculi is chosen as Warlord.

WS 5
BS 3
S 9
T 8
W 5
I 6
A 5
LD 9


£85

So someone took a wraith knight, tweaked the name and a few stats and is claiming it to be a rumor?

It's flat out worse then a WK btw, and probably walks to boot so it must be true

But seriously, I think it would be awesome if DE got a coven FMC. It would keep them different from their cousins while being suitably awesome and dark.

Give the Talos Pain Engine some wings, That thing could be pretty beastly if it was more mobile.

 Icculus wrote:

 Red Corsair wrote:

itsNot2ndEd wrote:
A little birdie....


DeathKnight

Heavy Support slot.

Can only be taken if a Haemonculi is chosen as Warlord.

WS 5
BS 3
S 9
T 8
W 5
I 6
A 5
LD 9


£85

So someone took a wraith knight, tweaked the name and a few stats and is claiming it to be a rumor?

It's flat out worse then a WK btw, and probably walks to boot so it must be true

But seriously, I think it would be awesome if DE got a coven FMC. It would keep them different from their cousins while being suitably awesome and dark.

Give the Talos Pain Engine some wings, That thing could be pretty beastly if it was more mobile.

or make them move like jetbikes like they do in the books.

also remember vect's castigators (which are essentially stolen and not put back in the infinity circuit wraith guard that go nuts because they weren't put back in the infinity circuit. Maybe vect found a small lost craftword.).

also the eye of vect attack which is essentially using the twin suns as a weapon.

 Red Corsair wrote:

 Mr Morden wrote:
I like the Shadowfield as is - it does not need to be better - sometimes its awesome and sometimes another Archon had a spy inflitrate your Kabal and had it glitched for fun so it fails immediately

He does have better things to do than die.

Dark Eldar nobles don't die permently as long as they left something behind

Assuming someone is kind enough to regrow them... In DE society

Thats one of the major things about the Dark Eldar and one reason they are so reckless - they don't die ......the codex is pretty clear about this - there are lots of safeguards but yeah its always possible that a doublecross may be tried - thats why you have your own safeguards............

Are the stats even that much better than the Talos? But anyway, I'm really hoping it isn't some giant flesh puppet. Castigators sound cool, but aren't big enough. Every army needs their 'giant'. Still hope ours is a flying landraider that you can assault out of.

Deathknight? LOL!


And they're missing a wonderful opportunity to make a 3-per-box plastic Grotesque box (ala the Kan and Ogryn boxes).

Personally I find the coven stuff too ghoulish, so I hope the new "big unit" (if there even is one) isn't something covered in scar tissue. I feel like the Dark Eldar suffer from a "too many cooks" thing when it comes to their aesthetic....I can deal with cyberpunk vampire gladiator pirates, but cyberpunk vampire gladiator pirate FRANKENSTEINS? My cup runneth over, and it's left terrifying stains on the carpet.

 Shandara wrote:
A unit that can only be chosen if you take another unit first? Usually it's that units change FOC when you take certain HQ units. Or it's FOC-less units that are unlocked by certain HQ.

I'm not buying it.

I'm surprised people are even debating it.

Also the big unit is likely to be the Voidraven seen as it is the only unit in the codex missing that isn't a special character. Either that or it is dropped.

 ceorron wrote:

 Shandara wrote:
A unit that can only be chosen if you take another unit first? Usually it's that units change FOC when you take certain HQ units. Or it's FOC-less units that are unlocked by certain HQ.

I'm not buying it.

I'm surprised people are even debating it.

Also the big unit is likely to be the Voidraven seen as it is the only unit in the codex missing that isn't a special character. Either that or it is dropped.

I'd day drop it, it was never different enough from the razorwing anyway IMO. Bombers are hilariously worthless in 40k anyway. They may even be worse then 40k snipers.

I could see the Voidraven getting a new bomb type; in that it will drop Webway Portals.

Which would be kinda awesome.

 Sephyr wrote:

I have a sinking feeling that Baron Sathonyx will be gone, and all my Hellions be reduced to lame FA choices without OS....

I wonder if GW will finally make Hellions good. 16 points for t3 5+ save assault troops is pretty sad. The next codex will be the 3rd set of rules for them, and 3 generations of suck would be pretty sad.


You could also say the same thing about mandrakes....


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 ceorron wrote:

 Shandara wrote:
A unit that can only be chosen if you take another unit first? Usually it's that units change FOC when you take certain HQ units. Or it's FOC-less units that are unlocked by certain HQ.

I'm not buying it.

I'm surprised people are even debating it.

Also the big unit is likely to be the Voidraven seen as it is the only unit in the codex missing that isn't a special character. Either that or it is dropped.

I would imagine that the voidraven would appear, as it is in death from the skies as well as the DE codex. Could be wrong though.

Death knight

 MajorWesJanson wrote:
If it was going to be a coven unit, it's highly doubtful it would be called a "DeathKnight." Coven creations tend to be pain engines of one sort or another. And Coven already has the Talos and Chronos in HS, this would step on those.

The Wraithknight kind of made Wraithlords fall out of use....

itsNot2ndEd wrote:
Death knight

Spoiler:

 Kanluwen wrote:
I could see the Voidraven getting a new bomb type; in that it will drop Webway Portals.

Which would be kinda awesome.

That's a great idea fluff wise but units arriving t3 the soonest could use it :/

I also don't see them adding things like this. They seem to be trimming down 40k at the moment.

The Dark Eldar comes soon after the last Nagash Endtimes release in mid September.

- 3 Week Release Window
- No completely new Units or Characters
- Chars without Models are removed
- Separate Relics for the Wych cults & the Kabals
- Vect is a Lord of War
- Wracks are the only finecasts who get a replacement
- New warmachine UPDATED: "For Vect"

from BoLS

Eldar players will be happy if the Raider and the Venom is a seperate unit entry like Drop Pods in the SW Codex

blaktoof wrote:

The Dark Eldar comes soon after the last Nagash Endtimes release in mid September.

- 3 Week Release Window
- No completely new Units or Characters
- Chars without Models are removed
- Separate Relics for the Wych cults & the Kabals
- Vect is a Lord of War
- Wracks are the only finecasts who get a replacement
- New warmachine UPDATED: "For Vect"

from BoLS

So is that a Hardback or a dataslate with new Relic rules?

With 3 weeks of DE does that mean a release for each week,Codex, Re-packaging (possibly with relic upgrade sprue???), Wracks, and the new "Vect Warmachine"

If no Relic upgrade sprue, will Codex contain drawings/sketches that keep theme of existing parts, making self builds easier.

I've found the CSM codex rather lacking with no images of the "marks" or other finicky add-ons that are left to the imagination.

Wracks becoming more assembly required over finecast, possibly even multi-part, makes conversions and "traces of other xenos flesh" easier to achieve. The more individual the surgical creation and assortment of parts the gruesome. They seem far more appealing with that prospect.

The discussion has focused on the need for Vect's pimped out grim dark chariot, so good news if true. Anti-air capabilities and more diverse ordinance also welcome.... super-heavy at under $100 would be even better.



I've been eyeing DE for ages, and this release schedule falls almost just right to kick off my collection. The box set soon, then follow the reaction as I start to build. Then toss up Christmas job-lot gifts to myself between finishing CSM and/or DE list worth fielding.

Well it's happened the last 3? Codexes so probably 100% they will be.

-Nothing completely new
-Only Wracks go from Finecast to plastic
- New Warmachine that's for Vect.

So that sounds like 3 kits at the most, Vect with his Dais of Destruction, Wracks, and hopefully the Void Raven.

I really hope this I'd just BOLS guessing, as that's a pathetic release (albeit on par with other recent ones)