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Fort Benning, Georgia

Captyn_Bob wrote:
At least the defiler can take dirge casters... OHNOWAIT


Why would anything in a codex entirely dedicated to Khorne and his servants be able to take Dirge Casters anyways?
   
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Chicago, Illinois

I think the Dirge Casters are a Slaanesh associated thing, from what I understand.

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Well the Destroyer vehicle equipment resembles an earlier vehicle equipment associated with Khorne (can't remember if it's the exact same name and rules) but it's not in the codex either.

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To me the Chaos Space Marines needed to be characterised as a threat reaching back to the Imperium's past, a threat which had refused to lie down and become part of history. This is in part why the gods of Chaos are less pivotal in Codex Chaos; we felt that the motivations of Chaos Space Marines should remain their own, no matter how debased and vile. Though the corrupted Space Marines of the Traitor Legions make excellent champions for the gods of Chaos, they are not pawns and have their own agendas of vengeance, empire-building vindication or arcane study which gives them purpose. 
   
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Fort Benning, Georgia

Chaospling wrote:
Well the Destroyer vehicle equipment resembles an earlier vehicle equipment associated with Khorne (can't remember if it's the exact same name and rules) but it's not in the codex either.


Destroyer Blades aren't in it? That's very odd.

And yes Dirge Casters are Slaaneshi- they are basically big megaphones that make loud noises to disorient enemies.
   
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Been Around the Block






Just curious, do you get blood points when your rhino dies ? Because if you do, you could pretty much get their points back in Bloodthirster
   
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You do.. but please remember the bloodthirster is not free. He gets summoned from one of your nondaemon characters and if you fail a ld test he dies and you get Nothing.

Also your opponent is far from obliged to kill your rhinos for you..

And spawn are better and cheaper

DFTT 
   
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Been Around the Block






Thats true, but you can only get 2 of them. Imagine like 6 rhinos full of marines (give them at least one melta/plasma) + 1 tax possessed. You are on what, 1000 pts ?

I dont think, that is something your opponent can ignore and you will very likely pass your ld test on aspiring champ.

It is 12 blood points by it self and it very likely to kill something too. Get juggerlord with spawns + maulerfiend/soulgrinders.. could be fun...

Imagine FNP on all of this and by end of the game adding at least 500pts of daemons

Just brainstorming here

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Having played against Daemonkin (still building my own) with a pure Slaanesh daemon army, I learned that A) take forgefiends, skull cannons, and heldrakes, as mass high S, long range or template firepower is a bloodletter or berzerkers best friend, and B) if you plan on summoning a DP or BT with your tithe points, you better protect your mortal characters that don't cost as much as a BT to begin with. My opponent had the points to summon a BT, but I killed off his last mortal character before he got the chance (he started of with 3 of them).
   
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Chicago, Illinois

Still waiting on my book, but what I wanna know is the wording on Slaughtercults for getting the free choice on the Blood Tithe chart.

Exactly what does it say and if you have more than 1 Slaughtercult , would you get 2 choices?

IE Spend 4 Blood Points, Gaine +1 Attack, then the 2 Slaughter Cults give you a free choice on the chart.

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You get to pick a second choice, worth a lower value (max 4) to apply to every model in the formation. So I guess yeah if you had two slaughtercults you could do it twice, they could even get different bonuses. But not both as it only affects the formation, and you would have to keep track of who was in which one.

Also.. if you had two slaughtercults, you may as well have two blood host detachments, which would mean 2 free bloodpoints a turn.

DFTT 
   
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Chicago, Illinois

I wonder how much it would cost to just take 4 and then summon Bloodthirsters and other things every turn.

The minimum cost is like what? 355, Possessed + 2 Units of BLoodletters + Herald

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Belgium

 Ignatius wrote:
Chaospling wrote:
Well the Destroyer vehicle equipment resembles an earlier vehicle equipment associated with Khorne (can't remember if it's the exact same name and rules) but it's not in the codex either.


Destroyer Blades aren't in it? That's very odd.

And yes Dirge Casters are Slaaneshi- they are basically big megaphones that make loud noises to disorient enemies.


No, Dirge caster are Chaos undivided in 4th Ed, they gave Fearless to all models in a 6" radius except for deamons.

The thing you are thinking are Warp Amps who inflicted a -1 LD in a 12" radius, -2 in a 6" radius and a -3 in contact.

Also Khorne Worshippers like Metal, so they need Dirge casters to put up 3 inches of Blood and Debauchery at max volume!

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Are the 'auxiliary' blocks (things like Khorne's Bloodstorm) formation datasheets in their own right?

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Yes , apart from the ones which are a single model

DFTT 
   
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"Removed as a casualty" != "Slain" i guess?

If not, if you summon a DP or BT you would get a blood tithe point for it? (assuming you interpret the rules so that characters generates points when dying outside of challenges)
   
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I don't know if it had been said before but can a demon char from coded chaos demons join a unit from the demonkin codex?
   
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No, all chaos daemon units have the daemonic instability rule, which prevents them joining a unit without the rule.

DFTT 
   
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Yes that is what i said but the rule states that a unit with this rule cannot be joined by a model unless.... it doesnt say "join"
   
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Australia

yeah it does "cannot join (or be joined by) models without this special rule"


 
   
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Just to be awkward, the extra clarification is only given in the Rules summary, not in the main rules itself.

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