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The developer was pushed into release by the publisher. They say as much in their last State of the Crusade address on their website. They could only push back the console release. As it stands, however, the game is growing. Sometimes quickly, sometines not. Personally, I'm looking forward to the Terminator (equivalent) update. I can't wait to properly run as Deathwing or an Iyanden Wraithguard. That's supposed to be the first expansion and I'm stoked for it.

So yeah. I've enjoyed what I've played. I've encountered little trouble in-game. I look forward to seeing the game grow. Some people don't like the game, and thats fair, but I think its pretty great.

And yet the amount of active players is worse than the first time I placed it.

Unless this game changes, it will fade away like SM did, even without the horrid P2P system.

Almost universally bad reviews on steam too. The one good review I found read more like a review of 40k itself

Pros: Good theme, shows promise
Cons: poor balance, crashing, hard to play
8/10

How that gets an 8 out of 10 boggles my mind. 1 good review out of a hundred or so bad ones. This game is DOA as you can't win back burned buyers.

Yeah, a refund at this point would save them more than the people bashing it as far as good will.

I took my weekly peek and saw metacritic finally had a score from five reviews in the mid 50's... but the caveat was that I hadn't ever heard of any of the outlets doing the reviews.

http://www.metacritic.com/game/pc/warhammer-40000-eternal-crusade

I was going to comment that none of the big names even apparently bothered to review this game but then IGN's review popped up on my recommended feed late tonight.




TL;DR: 5.3 Mediocre Has potential but buggy, incomplete, and unbalanced

Ymmv but I'll be waiting for the reviews for the console version before putting any money down on this game's port. No way I'll be preordering this.

It honestly sounds like the dev team is being rushed to put out a product. They seem to have a long term vision of where the game is going, and have been following that vision. But it does need a lot of work.
I am going to play it on and off for the near future. We'll see how quickly the game improves.


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 Stormwall wrote:
Yeah, a refund at this point would save them more than the people bashing it as far as good will.

They've readily offered refunds for anybody who would like one. Not really something they would do if they weren't interested in the long haul imo.

Steam policy and there was a long legal explanation of how two days time screwed the founders out of a refund. Either way, I cannot get one. This game could be a good lobby shooter, after a year or two of work. I do not see it being a good MMO. Nathan right now is claiming the 40v40 is a "persistent world, and thus an MMO." Which is entirely untrue.

If you have any questions as to why, I can PM you guys privately what my friend who is a lawyer (who also plays and is a founder,) wrote up before they temp locked that entire section of the forum and purged his post that he wrote up concerning the refund policy and change.

I won't post it publicly, as it was done as an observation, rather than a full legal write up and I don't want the chance of libel to pop up or to damage the game any further than it already has damaged itself. I've already convinced a large sum of people to not get this game - so my work is done. I'll /try/ to enjoy my waste of funds with my friends, and leave it at that.

Browsed quickly through the latest podcast, and looks like they are still in the middle of development.

The graphics are starting to look decent now, and they are still in the middle of adding customization features, weapons etc., like the grav weapons for Marines. Apparently the next big upcoming thing they currently have in (early) pipeline is Terminators, Meganobs and Wraithguard, they showed some early 3d models for those.

So glad that I passed on this one. It was one of those games that just sounded too good to be true, so every time I was tempted to get in on their Founder deals, I eventually decided against it. The ever-persistent ugly rumors didn't help.

It sucks that they over-promised and under-delivered on what could have been a landmark property for the 40K license. I thought Space Marine did a pretty good job, even if it became repetitive and tiresome after a while. That game desperately needed some more variety in its enemies. A less epic campaign story, and instead a series of "missions" would have been much better, and allow the game to have featured more than just 8 hours of fighting Orks and an hour and a half of fighting Chaos.

Glad I got a refund when I could. Sorry you guys are stuck with it but I am pretty sure I tried to warn people in this thread a few pages back :(
I'm sure somewhere along the way someone will make another good 40k video game.. I'll wait for that

Veteran Sergeant wrote:So glad that I passed on this one. It was one of those games that just sounded too good to be true, so every time I was tempted to get in on their Founder deals, I eventually decided against it. The ever-persistent ugly rumors didn't help.

It sucks that they over-promised and under-delivered on what could have been a landmark property for the 40K license. I thought Space Marine did a pretty good job, even if it became repetitive and tiresome after a while. That game desperately needed some more variety in its enemies. A less epic campaign story, and instead a series of "missions" would have been much better, and allow the game to have featured more than just 8 hours of fighting Orks and an hour and a half of fighting Chaos.

If this game was a Space Marine 2, it'd be perfect honestly. But, they failed in all regards, not open world or a real MMO. It's not a good lobby shooter either.

MLaw wrote:Glad I got a refund when I could. Sorry you guys are stuck with it but I am pretty sure I tried to warn people in this thread a few pages back :(
I'm sure somewhere along the way someone will make another good 40k video game.. I'll wait for that

Holy gak, you and I agreeing on something?

10/10 would Dakka again.

 Stormwall wrote:

Veteran Sergeant wrote:So glad that I passed on this one. It was one of those games that just sounded too good to be true, so every time I was tempted to get in on their Founder deals, I eventually decided against it. The ever-persistent ugly rumors didn't help.

It sucks that they over-promised and under-delivered on what could have been a landmark property for the 40K license. I thought Space Marine did a pretty good job, even if it became repetitive and tiresome after a while. That game desperately needed some more variety in its enemies. A less epic campaign story, and instead a series of "missions" would have been much better, and allow the game to have featured more than just 8 hours of fighting Orks and an hour and a half of fighting Chaos.

If this game was a Space Marine 2, it'd be perfect honestly. But, they failed in all regards, not open world or a real MMO. It's not a good lobby shooter either.

MLaw wrote:Glad I got a refund when I could. Sorry you guys are stuck with it but I am pretty sure I tried to warn people in this thread a few pages back :(
I'm sure somewhere along the way someone will make another good 40k video game.. I'll wait for that

Holy gak, you and I agreeing on something?

10/10 would Dakka again.

I don't recall what we disagreed on but I'm sure it was something that would have a moderator remind us to stay on topic..

 Veteran Sergeant wrote:
So glad that I passed on this one. It was one of those games that just sounded too good to be true, so every time I was tempted to get in on their Founder deals, I eventually decided against it. The ever-persistent ugly rumors didn't help.

Yeah, you have to be careful with all kinds of founder/kickstarter things. They are very much work in progress, and sometimes even less than that!

Anyone can draw a few concept sketches and tell you it's going to be the best thing ever. But unless they can show material that's close to being a finished product, you need to think if they are able to deliver what they promise. This is also true for all kinds of physical products. If it seems too good to be true, it usually is.

It's bad. They have dreams of progressing it into a real game. Problem is there will be no funding. Would not be the least surprised if it went into maintenance mode after termie equivalents drop.

I honestly believe that GW has these games (pc/console/apps) made to be bad so it peaks interest into the miniatures side of the company.

 Orock wrote:
It's bad. They have dreams of progressing it into a real game. Problem is there will be no funding. Would not be the least surprised if it went into maintenance mode after termie equivalents drop.

I'd be surprised given that the console version probably won't be out yet. Knowing that the development already had a fork in it would be the final nail in this otherwise almost completed coffin. They'd effecively be shooting themselves in the foot before 2/3 of the other platform versions are even out. It's possible but I wouldn't say probable.

 krazynadechukr wrote:
I honestly believe that GW has these games (pc/console/apps) made to be bad so it peaks interest into the miniatures side of the company.

They would have to be dumber than anyone gives them credit for then. Their most profitable time was around the original dawn of wars release. That and lord of the rings.

 krazynadechukr wrote:
I honestly believe that GW has these games (pc/console/apps) made to be bad so it peaks interest into the miniatures side of the company.

Im not sure about that, the initial ideas for this game, although unrealistic, were very appealing to plenty of people, had it actually gotten off the ground as the totally different game that was originally planned, It would have made plenty of money.

Some of the other big GW franchise based PC games that have been coming recently have also made them a nice chunk of cash.

I would not be surprised to see development stop soon so they can switch the workload to focus on the console release of the game instead.

 krazynadechukr wrote:
I honestly believe that GW has these games (pc/console/apps) made to be bad so it peaks interest into the miniatures side of the company.

That's probably the stupidest conspiracy theory I have heard.

I'm still thinking they perhaps should go 'Free to Play', which has worked for other shooter games. Would give them influx of cash and keep the updates running for a while. Give current customers a premium package of in-game credits or whatever.

I thought it was F2P already.

 prowla wrote:
I'm still thinking they perhaps should go 'Free to Play', which has worked for other shooter games. Would give them influx of cash and keep the updates running for a while. Give current customers a premium package of in-game credits or whatever.

That's usually something that is done after an unsuccessful launch as a last ditch effort or planned waaaaay in advance. I don't see them doing it right away with the supposed console releases just around the corner in a month or two. If you saw the mediocre PC version of the game with a troubled development history that was released less than a month earlier go free to play, would you buy the console version for $60 in a month or two or just wait to try it out for free when it likely follows the same path instead? It might eventually become F2P/P2W in say 6 months but I'm guessing only after they cash in on first month or two full retail price sales on consoles.

I guess I was lucky that my friend described the game to me as a 40k lobby shooter and that's what I got when I bought it a few weeks ago. Been having a blast ever since. It isn't the most polished or the prettiest or the most balanced, but it's a very fun game for what it is. If people are still looking at it as what it could have been or what the original plan was then yeah I can see why they'd be upset. I'm just having fun killing SM with my power axe, my mark of khorne blazing on my shoulder.

 Skinnereal wrote:
I thought it was F2P already.

That was another part of the original plan that got scrapped !!

I do know a few people that are playing it a lot and really liking it, I guess it depends what you are looking for in a game, as a lobby shooter it seems pretty decent.
It does not quite compare with BF1 though !

 Rayvon wrote:

 Skinnereal wrote:
I thought it was F2P already.

That was another part of the original plan that got scrapped !!

I do know a few people that are playing it a lot and really liking it, I guess it depends what you are looking for in a game, as a lobby shooter it seems pretty decent.
It does not quite compare with BF1 though !

Doesn't Free to Play mean it has no subscription fee? I don't see mention of a sub. Buy the game, and play for nothing.
As opposed to free game, Pay to Play afterwards.

I'm just hoping to get the terms the right way around.

 Skinnereal wrote:

 Rayvon wrote:

 Skinnereal wrote:
I thought it was F2P already.

That was another part of the original plan that got scrapped !!

I do know a few people that are playing it a lot and really liking it, I guess it depends what you are looking for in a game, as a lobby shooter it seems pretty decent.
It does not quite compare with BF1 though !

Doesn't Free to Play mean it has no subscription fee? I don't see mention of a sub. Buy the game, and play for nothing.
As opposed to free game, Pay to Play afterwards.

I'm just hoping to get the terms the right way around.

With respect to PC games, free to play means literally that, you dont have to buy anything, just download and play !
They make the money by people paying monthly to level up at a slightly faster rate or by selling add-ons like weapons and aesthetics like outfits, weapon skins, logos etc

That was the initial plan for this as well, it was suppose to be pay to play early, the alpha / Beta, then free to play with the non subscribers playing the Orks !