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 Yodhrin wrote:


That's nice - who's said it was again? Because IIRC it wasn't me.

That was me

For must of its run it was lots of articles sprinkled with advertising while the last few years of its monthly run was advertising sprinkled with some articles.

Coming out of the 40k comics thread

http://icv2.com/articles/news/view/34884/gw-titan-marketing-support-warhammer-40-000

Both Games Workshop and Titan Comics will provide marketing support for the launch of Titan’s Warhammer 40,000 comic debuting on October 12 (see “Exclusive! 'Warhammer 40K' Comic Creative Team, Covers, Release Date”).
A special #0 issue will be produced for October’s edition of Games Workshop’s White Dwarf magazine. The 32-page preview comic will include an original 10-page strip by the comic’s creative team, as well as a ‘making of’ feature. The launch will also be supported by posts on the Official Warhammer 40,000 Facebook page, The Games Workshop: Warhammer World Facebook page, and Games Workshop’s official blog and newsletter.

A feature on Warhammer 40,000 #1 will appear in Titan’s July - December 2016 32-page preview sampler, which will be given to retailers at Diamond’s SDCC retailer lunch presentation, distributed to comic stores in late July, and distributed at the Diamond Retailer Summit in Baltimore in late August. The #0 comic will also be handed out to retailers at the Summit. Titan is also setting up a mass interview program for comic writer George Mann with comics, sci-fi, gaming, genre/cult and entertainment media.

Variants will include store variants for issue #1.

The publisher has also planned activity at key conventions to support the launch, including San Diego Comic-Con and New York Comic Con.

so that's 1 freebie coming that we know of.

tneva82 wrote:

No. But again it's difference of SCALE.
You do know there's difference between WD having 40% ad's, 60% hobby content to 100% ads, 0% hobby content?
Nobody is expecting WD with zero ads. But there's still difference between "ads" and "all ads".
Heck even the old catalogue pages were more useful and inspiring than the current ads as it gave some ideas for conversions. These days it's "buy and assemble as instructed" mentality.

I haven't been buying WD weekly, since.... well I may have bought the first one, but even then I can't remember properly. Wasn't interested in the gutted-for-content weekly format. Recently I picked up a pile of them for two bucks each (they cost $6 here) from a game store in town on clearance - pretty much for the photos because I enjoy printed material that I can browse away from a screen. I also bought the two ones that came out with WHQ for full price. They have new rules in them, they have some conversion examples - one of which I'm keen to steal (gak! I got inspired to do something by WDW???). It's not what WD "should" be in my opinion, but even I have to admit that it's not 100% ads and 0% hobby content.


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partisan_nick wrote:
I guess I am in the small minority that will really miss Visions. It was perfect for me nowadays since I still love (most of) GW:s estetics and oogling great painted minis for inspiration.
But I have not played one of the GW big games for years (though I like the new box games and play lots of Epic Armageddon).
I find I actually like the less (no) content and more pictures (!)...
But I guess I'll save a bit of money if Visions becomes a quarterly instead. And I'll buy the odd WD for expansions to the board games and maybe for the really fun releases.

My WD sub converted over to Visions. Sadly, Visions was the gakky A5 format through my sub until it expired, and I never looked back. When I was in town and picked up those $2 WDs, I found that it had converted to a larger magazine format, and improved in internal quality no end. I'd have started buying it again if I'd known, as I also like the format of a painted-model magazine - it just needed to be better quality than it was at inception.

From Atia's blog:
'Hi!

Informations regarding the new formate of the WD - via AdHocGames, TGA Community, via his GW trade reps

"Just gotten off the phone with my rep, not much AoS to report on but i did get some information about the new White Dwarf launching in september. As you probably all know it's going back to monthly publication BUT the release schedule is remaining a weekly one. New releases will be announced first via social media, White Dwarf itself will be looking back on the past months releases, talking about the hobby etc. The goal is to move it away from just being an advertisement, and instead a must buy for hobbyists again.

I also found out what the free gift with the first issue is. Alas i cannot say, i've been sworn to secrecy. I can confirm though that it's a miniature, and it will be for AoS. If you were to look at items priced £18, you'd get a clearer idea of what to expect."

That would be the death of WD leaks.

regards,
Bob'
https://war-of-sigmar.herokuapp.com/bloggings/960

One step forward, two steps back. GW - Almost.

How so?

Items that are 18 GBP for Age of Sigmar?

Fyreslayers
Battlesmith
Auric Runemaster
Grimwrath Berzerker

Khorne Bloodbound
Slaughterpriest with Hackblade and Wrathhammer
Slaughterpriest
Aspiring Deathbringer with Goreaxe and Skullhammer
Exalted Deathbringer with Impaling Spear
Skullgrinder
Skarr Bloodwrath

Stormcast Eternals
Knight-Vexillor

There's a few other relic things(boxes for the most part), but the 18GBP price point is hero blisters.

I wouldn't be surprised to see Grombrindal make an appearance if I'm gonna be honest.

We had lots of leaks before WD went weekly, even a month or two in advance. I do not agree with Bob's comment at the end.


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No surprise it is not Kharn

ImAGeek wrote:From Atia's blog:
'Hi!

Informations regarding the new formate of the WD - via AdHocGames, TGA Community, via his GW trade reps

"Just gotten off the phone with my rep, not much AoS to report on but i did get some information about the new White Dwarf launching in september. As you probably all know it's going back to monthly publication BUT the release schedule is remaining a weekly one. New releases will be announced first via social media, White Dwarf itself will be looking back on the past months releases, talking about the hobby etc. The goal is to move it away from just being an advertisement, and instead a must buy for hobbyists again.

I also found out what the free gift with the first issue is. Alas i cannot say, i've been sworn to secrecy. I can confirm though that it's a miniature, and it will be for AoS. If you were to look at items priced £18, you'd get a clearer idea of what to expect."

That would be the death of WD leaks.

regards,
Bob'
https://war-of-sigmar.herokuapp.com/bloggings/960

That sounds very promising, the idea that they are seperating white dwarf from the release schedule is very heartening. In fact it's probably the best news surrounding white dwarf there could be. It completely disconnects the magazine from being an advertising vehicle, and will hopefully mean it becomes more of a well magazine.

It of course remains to be seen wether they achieve this. But I have high hopes, fingers crossed they get a good team of writers and editors in.

Yodhrin wrote:One step forward, two steps back. GW - Almost.

Do you have to post a negative reply to every GW thread going? Are you that bitter now?

 ImAGeek wrote:
From Atia's blog:
'Hi!

Informations regarding the new formate of the WD - via AdHocGames, TGA Community, via his GW trade reps

Well apart from the free gift that's useless for me sounds promising. Might start buying WD's again...IF they can be found on non-game stores like they could be found pre-weekly WD!

So close, but seems this will be a miss.

I'd rather it be a preview of what's coming than a reguritation of items released the previous month or so.

And they really need to double-down on the non-advertisement stuff - things like new missions for Silver Tower, mini-games utilizing your model collection, a scratch-build section and the like.

Y'know, kinda like the old White Dwarf before they butchered it.

You know it will be the Vexillor = not used models for free.

I suspect the free model will be grombindal, the white dwarf.

 Stormonu wrote:
So close, but seems this will be a miss.

I'd rather it be a preview of what's coming than a reguritation of items released the previous month or so.

And they really need to double-down on the non-advertisement stuff - things like new missions for Silver Tower, mini-games utilizing your model collection, a scratch-build section and the like.

Y'know, kinda like the old White Dwarf before they butchered it.

The sky isn't falling yet, so let's not rush to conclusions Chicken Little. No offense. Let's wait till we see the first issue, and go from there. Or alternatively, try expressing your wishes on their facebook pages. Not only do they seem to listen, they respond to a lot of direct questions.

 ImAGeek wrote:
From Atia's blog:
'Hi!

Informations regarding the new formate of the WD - via AdHocGames, TGA Community, via his GW trade reps

"Just gotten off the phone with my rep, not much AoS to report on but i did get some information about the new White Dwarf launching in september. As you probably all know it's going back to monthly publication BUT the release schedule is remaining a weekly one. New releases will be announced first via social media, White Dwarf itself will be looking back on the past months releases, talking about the hobby etc. The goal is to move it away from just being an advertisement, and instead a must buy for hobbyists again.

I also found out what the free gift with the first issue is. Alas i cannot say, i've been sworn to secrecy. I can confirm though that it's a miniature, and it will be for AoS. If you were to look at items priced £18, you'd get a clearer idea of what to expect."

That would be the death of WD leaks.

regards,
Bob'
https://war-of-sigmar.herokuapp.com/bloggings/960

Though I agree that their policy on secrecy is ridiculous, this is bloody fantastic news. I stopped buying WD years ago because I was fed up with paying for a monthly catalogue. Its why I switched to magazines with actual hobby content like Wargames Illustrated.

I'll guess a Slaughter Priest since they already gave us a Sigmarite

 Uriels_Flame wrote:
You know it will be the Vexillor = not used models for free.

What do you mean by not used? the Vexillor is one of the best Stormcast characters and a must due to his teleport ability.

 OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:
I'll guess a Slaughter Priest since they already gave us a Sigmarite

I'll go a step further and say it's going to be a new plastic White Dwarf model to celebrate the relaunch. A character blister would be around 18GBP.

Let's hope they go back to the early 2000s on how White Dwarf was. While I will not buy a subscription no more, I might just restart collecting WD again if it's worth it. We are going to get a $36 Canadian mini in the first monthly issue of White Dwarf?

Davor wrote:
Let's hope they go back to the early 2000s on how White Dwarf was. While I will not buy a subscription no more, I might just restart collecting WD again if it's worth it. We are going to get a $36 Canadian mini in the first monthly issue of White Dwarf?

Yeah, too bad it is probably just a Sigmarine. I hope they regularly include stuff though. The first two issues are already confirmed as having stuff included with them, so perhaps it will be a regular occurrence.

Neronoxx wrote:

 Stormonu wrote:
So close, but seems this will be a miss.

I'd rather it be a preview of what's coming than a reguritation of items released the previous month or so.

And they really need to double-down on the non-advertisement stuff - things like new missions for Silver Tower, mini-games utilizing your model collection, a scratch-build section and the like.

Y'know, kinda like the old White Dwarf before they butchered it.

The sky isn't falling yet, so let's not rush to conclusions Chicken Little. No offense. Let's wait till we see the first issue, and go from there. Or alternatively, try expressing your wishes on their facebook pages. Not only do they seem to listen, they respond to a lot of direct questions.

I must be losing my mind. I could have sworn there was a post in this thread earlier copied from the facebook page explaining what they were shooting for in the magazine, and it wasn't what I hoped for. Can't find it now.

 Stormonu wrote:
So close, but seems this will be a miss.

I'd rather it be a preview of what's coming than a reguritation of items released the previous month or so.

This pretty much sums it up perfectly.

i have a feeling that this first issue is going to go fast, especially with a free mini...
anyone who wants one, be sure to reserve a copy from your store...
a lot of people where really bummed about how quickly the free Stormcast model issue went, and that wasn't even a fancy mini...

i look forward to seeing what the first few issues look like...
i have been doing digital only, for the most part, for the last few years...
free minis are definitely worth getting a hard copy instead, though...
if they only include a free bonus with the first couple of issues, i ill happily go back to digital...
it is so nice to have every issue since the introduction in Nov. 2013 (?) conveniently contained in my iPad...
so much better than trying to lug heavy boxes around every time i move

cheers
jah

 General Kroll wrote:


Do you have to post a negative reply to every GW thread going? Are you that bitter now?

If you don't like what I have to say, use the ignore feature. Like I'm about to, since I'm as tired of seeing certain folk moan every time someone has a different opinion as you apparently are of seeing different opinions.

I think it's more about having a substantive comment to make rather than a snarky single sentence. While I'm used to decades of WD being a monthly catalogue to sell their newest releases, I've got no problem with it being a more substantial hobby magazine that's less focused on pushing the newest releases. Though I can't see it really ever not being that, I'll be happy to see if they try.

I'll be paying for my subscription next week.

 Yodhrin wrote:

 General Kroll wrote:


Do you have to post a negative reply to every GW thread going? Are you that bitter now?

If you don't like what I have to say, use the ignore feature. Like I'm about to, since I'm as tired of seeing certain folk moan every time someone has a different opinion as you apparently are of seeing different opinions.

But what steps back they did then?

Let's see. Less ads of new products, more of hobby content. Can't be bad can it? Ads are more suited to net anyway rather than magazine.

~18£ freebie gift? Gee. That's step backward? It's 100% useless for me but even I wouldn't call that a step back! It's not like you are paying for it so at worst you can throw it in garbage bin and you aren't any worse off than you would have been. Not like WD's have been packing with free minis so having one for game you don't play is hardly a "step back".

Not much step backs to be seen...Unless new articles are bad but nothing whatsoever in the info suggested they are bad. Nothing suggests they are good either. We don't know what they are going to be like until new WD hits the shelves! And even then it takes some time to see whether it was one time case of being good/bad or is it a trend.

We know so little that it's pretty much impossible to say is it going to be good or bad. Could be either. But less ads, more hobby content goal is at least good one according to quite a few. You want more ads, less hobby content? Guess that would explain step backs...

I posted about this in the Khârn thread, because I had that still open from last night and missed he migration here, but: How DOES one reserve a copy of WD short of a subscription? Especially now that afaik the deals on subs are long expired. The hobby shop in my GF?s town sold out on the Liberator issue in minutes and she's out of town, anyway. I know a few shops at train stations selling WD OR Visions, but not both, so I don't know if they'll carry new WD. And I don't think you can preorder in such stores.


There's a GW about an hour away, but in September taking the train there is costly (my uni ticket expires at the end of August).

The problem with a free AoS mini is that it's constantly rammed down your throat mockingly saying we destroyed everything you loved about warhammer.

They have turned it into this bland amorphous soulless thing, unless the mini is something like the White Dwarf, though I suspect he will be called the Smokey Duradin or something, ill pass.

migooo wrote:
The problem with a free AoS mini is that it's constantly rammed down your throat mockingly saying we destroyed everything you loved about warhammer.
They have turned it into this bland amorphous soulless thing, unless the mini is something like the White Dwarf, though I suspect he will be called the Smokey Duradin or something, ill pass.

No, you're reading all of that into it. Especially the mockingly, etc. Nothing's being rammed down your throat. It's simply that GW has moved on from WHFB and you're hurt and angry about it.

While it's clear that you're mostly just angry about AoS, I'll reply anyway. My opinion is much more pragmatic. I've bought a ton of AoS stuff to date, though I have no interest in their (to me) silly AoS background. If I were a recent player of WHFB, I'd have decided to continue playing 8th (or 5th, or 3rd), moved to either 9th Age or KoW by now. Or even all of them, since they're almost entirely cross-compatible.

Since I binned WHFB back in 5th because HeroHammer holds no interest for me, I play KoW, but I "use" the WHFB background for my games and models (except when I'm using LotR armies, or Historical mash-ups, etc) because, like yourself, I hold an emotional attachment to the WHFB world and background, as well as appreciate the 30 years of layering involved. But... I've bought quite a lot of "AoS" models. And I do intend to play the game a little once the General's Handbook comes out. I'll use the models across both KoW for my "large block fantasy battle" games, and also in AoS using the original WHFB background for my games, with a few tweaks like I always have.

I'll use Fyreslayers as a sub-cult of Dwarven Slayers (in my KoW army based on WHFB fluff). I'll include the Orruk Brutes alongside the (KoW) Orc army, by using them with the Ogre army rules as particularly great big fething orcs. I'll use the contents of my multiple "Start Collecting: Seraphon" boxes using the KoW Salamander rules, and use them as Lizardmen instead of Lizard Space Angels because WTFLOLBBQ. Khorne guys will be Khorne guys. I'll work out something for Sigmarines that fits and works for me. Maybe they can even be Sigmarines, but as a faction making incursions into The Old World rather than the actual AoS background.

All of this will pretty much only be in my own head, or in stories when I "forge the narrative" with my actual friends and such, so whatever GW does with the background, I'll happily feel free to ignore and continue to do so except when they come up with something that actually takes my fancy. I've still got all my WHFB books (kept for fluff) and all my WHFRP stuff. I've got my 3rd edition rulebook, my Slaves to Darkness and my Lost and the Damned. No-one took them away from me when they End Times-ed The Old World, so I'll continue to take what I like and ignore the rest...

So yeah, I'll happily take the free White Dwarf miniature. You can feel free to send me yours as well if you like.

Likewise, I will take the burden of accepting any free miniatures anyone feels are being rammed down their orifices. Do feel free to send free miniatures to me instead of enduring the suffering.