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I think a church on wheels transport/fire support combo kit would be awesome. The immolator is fine as is (comparisons to space marine versions are laughable, a razorback WISHES it was as good as an immolator) but having something beefier with the ecclesiarcle aesthetic woyld be awesome (so long as they don't give it land raider syndrome).

 JohnHwangDD wrote:
Of course, that was when Guard had Beastmen levies and Land Raiders and Jetbikes...

Wow at the size of that rhino

I suspect that Sisters will get some of the Dark Angel and Grey Knight vehicle options... just to help move those underselling kits.
Particularly:
Dread Knight? Already with a torrent flamer... why not add melta?
Dark Talon/Nephelim Jetfighter? Add flamers to a jet... totally something GW would do.
Darkshroud? Already looks like they tore pieces of a church off to put it onto a vehicle.

I don't have too much hope for a cheap troop option though. Sisters is going to be a smaller codex. Not quite as bad as harlequins, but not a lot of choices in the troops area. I expect not to see a lot of distinctions between Dominions, Celestians, and Battle Sisters... for example. To me, it is a part of the charm of the codex that while the individual sisters can be unique, they really can go anywhere. I'm hoping for a basic infantry box and then a box of veteran infantry. I don't expect to see a lot of the Inquisitional Henchmen... that will be a different release later. A whole bunch of upgrade sprues shoved in existing vehicle boxes.

 Anpu-adom wrote:

Dread Knight? Already with a torrent flamer... why not add melta?
Dark Talon/Nephelim Jetfighter? Add flamers to a jet... totally something GW would do.
Darkshroud? Already looks like they tore pieces of a church off to put it onto a vehicle.

All three of those would fill gaps the Sisters have, but the kits themselves are covered with iconography from their respective factions. As far as a flyer, I'd rather have something with a transport capacity.

 Anpu-adom wrote:
I don't expect to see a lot of the Inquisitional Henchmen... that will be a different release later.

Personally I wish GW would either make the Henchmen useful or just bin them entirely and stop wasting resources making models for them. Aside from Sages and Servo-Skulls (and possibly Heavy Weapon Servitors for the Daemonhunters) they were largely a waste of points in 3rd Edition, and have sucked progressively harder in successive iterations. The Battle Conclave isn't as bad as the ones in Codex: Inquisition, but it still sucks enough eggs that nobody's ever going to use it in anger. The Temple Assassins are likewise complete guff. This is a shame, because having more characterful units would be awesome, but I'm not going to sacrifice effectiveness for flavour. I don't see why I should have to do that when the two aren't mutually exclusive.

But yeah. Henchmen rant over.


PS: The Sisters need a Skyfire option. Trying to chase down Wave Serpents with Meltaguns is not a fun way to spend an afternoon.

An exorcist variant would probably be the answer to that.

tneva82 wrote:

 JohnHwangDD wrote:
Of course, that was when Guard had Beastmen levies and Land Raiders and Jetbikes...

Wow at the size of that rhino

There's been a little scale creep since RT.

 Captain Joystick wrote:

 Anpu-adom wrote:

Dread Knight? Already with a torrent flamer... why not add melta?
Dark Talon/Nephelim Jetfighter? Add flamers to a jet... totally something GW would do.
Darkshroud? Already looks like they tore pieces of a church off to put it onto a vehicle.

All three of those would fill gaps the Sisters have, but the kits themselves are covered with iconography from their respective factions. As far as a flyer, I'd rather have something with a transport capacity.

I disagree here, the dreadknight would be horribly disappointing to get in place of a penitent engine model wise (Although feel free to port over most of the rules!), Both the dark talon and the nephilim are okay in how they look but ultimately flyers are so bad across the board that I can't see them making rules that would get people to take them (The avenger strike fighter is already miles above most of the GW fare and people still don't bring it ever.) The darkshroud with sisters Iconography would actually be pretty neat though. Not sure what rules they'd give it, the shrouded thing doesn't really synergize with sisters much.

Plastic SoB rhinos. The Repressor (?) ones that FW does. Would be awesome for conversion work.

1. Dominica-pattern Drop-pod
2. Make its doors Assault Ramps
3. Let it carry either 10 Sisters or 3 P-Engines.

 Psienesis wrote:
1. Dominica-pattern Drop-pod
2. Make its doors Assault Ramps
3. Let it carry either 10 Sisters or 3 P-Engines.

Drop pods are open topped, assault ramps would be silly as you can already technically charge out of one, you just can't charge the turn you come in from reserves.

I think Repentia should be the Sisters go to combat unit. And this is what I would change about them.

Give them I4 and feel no pain 5+ as standard.

Give them the option of two different weapons.
Either:

Two power swords giving them an extra attack and AP3
Or an Evicerator with Sx2 AP2 Armourbane, unweildy etc.

Their act of faith should be the Space Woof thing.
If they die in combat before their intiative step roll a dice. On a 4+ they get to attack as normal before being removed.

 dan2026 wrote:
I think Repentia should be the Sisters go to combat unit. And this is what I would change about them.

Give them I4 and feel no pain 5+ as standard.

Give them the option of two different weapons.
Either:

Two power swords giving them an extra attack and AP3
Or an Evicerator with Sx2 AP2 Armourbane, unweildy etc.

Their act of faith should be the Space Woof thing.
If they die in combat before their intiative step roll a dice. On a 4+ they get to attack as normal before being removed.

They'd still be terrible. They'd still be too slow, no T3 model is ever going to get to use a FNP, S4 models don't even take powerswords for how useless that is S3 would be silly, I4 isn't fast enough and making their AOF a TERRIBLE version of the Wulfen rule would honestly just be kicking them when they're down.

If you wanna see repentia on the tabletop what they need are bikes, skilled rider, I5, their FNP AOF for the shooting phase and the ability to take an SI (T4 3+ Cover with 3+ FNP is hard enough for most armies to deal with that they might actually survive a turn) And they ignore unwieldy on the charge. Combine that with about a 15 point drop and they'd be a solid but not amazing unit. (Keep in mind they are still only T4 and their only protection is a cover save, which is easily ignored and useless in CQC, their 6+ invul and their 3+ FNP which is negated by strength 8, yeah they'd nuke a knight out of existance 47 times over but a single SM character would rofl stomp the whole unit without slowing down)

I think that the Repentia are going away. These little sub-armies are in niches. Sisters niche? Power-armor hordes with lots of mid-range specialist weapons or MSU with lots of mid-range specialist weapons.

 JohnHwangDD wrote:
If CC is brewing, is it better for SoB to give the charge, or to take the charge?

Is “Use a wall of flame to prevent people from charging in CC” an option?

Flamer, Heavy Flamer & Combi-Flamer is the best. Bar none.

 JohnHwangDD wrote:
Flamer, Heavy Flamer & Combi-Flamer is the best. Bar none.

The only thing better is more flamers ofc, and SoB can have more in some units. :-)

Spetulhu wrote:

 JohnHwangDD wrote:
Flamer, Heavy Flamer & Combi-Flamer is the best. Bar none.

The only thing better is more flamers ofc, and SoB can have more in some units. :-)

I used to attach a Librarius Conclave to a unit of Sternguard with 2x Heavy Flamers and 3x Combi-flamers. No one dared charge them.

 EnTyme wrote:

Spetulhu wrote:

 JohnHwangDD wrote:
Flamer, Heavy Flamer & Combi-Flamer is the best. Bar none.

The only thing better is more flamers ofc, and SoB can have more in some units. :-)

I used to attach a Librarius Conclave to a unit of Sternguard with 2x Heavy Flamers and 3x Combi-flamers. No one dared charge them.

4×Frag cannons with flamer(NEVER TAKE COMBIWEAPONS ON DEATHWATCH MARINES) and artemis' poison 2+flamer

 JohnHwangDD wrote:
Flamer, Heavy Flamer & Combi-Flamer is the best. Bar none.

B-but akimbo hand flamers ?!?!

If you can't take the bigger, better stuff, I suppose...

 Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:
Is “Use a wall of flame to prevent people from charging in CC” an option?

Well, yeah, it's an option - but where do your Meltaguns go?

BBAP wrote:

 Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:
Is “Use a wall of flame to prevent people from charging in CC” an option?

Well, yeah, it's an option - but where do your Meltaguns go?

Meltaguns with flamer attachment?

At least for now, Flamers in your Objective holding squads. Melta in your "Kill the Lord of War" suicide squad.
I don't have heavy flamers or combiflamers, so double flamers have to do for now.

2

An assault vehicle.

28mm stuff like this:

Sisters on bikes with flamers would be cool!

 kronk wrote:
Sisters on bikes with flamers would be cool!

+1

Although Sisters on Bikes with Meltas would be cooler.

nay, hotter!

BBAP wrote:

 kronk wrote:
Sisters on bikes with flamers would be cool!

+1

Although Sisters on Bikes with Meltas would be cooler.

Agreed - surely both options would be best - or Deathwatch style and combination Heavy Flamer/Melta.....