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I think this one is going to be better than HQ25.

It's going to have a narrative campaign and then a huge book filled with rules for every undead model Mantic makes (for use as wandering monsters), new heroes, character classes, rules for levelling up stats, spending gold on new gear, building dungeons, dungeon designing for DM's to run a tabletop campaign etc.

More like Heroquest with Advanced heroquest bolted on and a lot of the more interesting stuff from Warhammer Quest (in terms of character levelling and campaign packs etc.).

And that's *just* the basic game box, the first funding target.

After that, stuff gets interesting, I can see them releasing a ton of extra campaign packs with a scenario book and minis to go with it, mostly likely a big baddie, a few minions to go with it and then the rest of the models borrow from the KoW range.

There will be plenty of extra female characters in there from the looks of things, the female version of the Basilean Paladin is confirmed, which is nice.

I really hope they get to do different campaigns for an orc infested cavern, or entering the Abyss and fighting demons.

Lizardman shapeshifter sounds like such a great character too, going to have to play that one I think!

Oh, and I heard August 1st start date and $100 sweet spot with Early Birds getting an extra resin model(s)? rather than receiving a discount.

This really seems to be more of what I was expecting out of Myth- a straightforward dungeon romp with hopefully an easy to grasp yet expandable ruleset.

I've got some games all lined up on the chopping block to cover this one too.

Has there been any more word on the idea of a time based bonus character early bird? Is that still happening?

I am very very excited for this! I really hope August 1st is the launch date!

Hopefully we can get an Ogre hero, I loves me my Ogres!

 primalexile wrote:
I am very very excited for this! I really hope August 1st is the launch date!

Same here first I have heard on August 1. I hope that is correct.

Maybe we can get some sort of Dakka hivemind going and send some sort of psychic suggestion to Mantic to start this on the first.

What with all the runes unlocking for their password thing soon, it just might be close at hand...

1st of August sounds good so long as it runs till the 28th (payday)

 edlowe wrote:
1st of August sounds good so long as it runs till the 28th (payday)

I'd rather wait until mid-August, so the bill doesn't hit at the same time as mandatory auto inspection/registration.

Right...

Mantic will probably run this one for 30 days though, right?

 Alpharius wrote:
Right...

Mantic will probably run this one for 30 days though, right?

The last two Mantic Kickstarters did not.

DreadBall Extreme ran from Feb. 21 2014 to Mar. 16 2014. 24 Days total.

Mars Attacks ran from Oct. 4 2013 to Nov. 10 2013. 37 Days total.

There is all sorts of metadata and analysis on when the best time to begin a Kickstarter campaign is. Interestingly the last two campaign both started on Fridays. August 1, 2014 is also a Friday. :-)

I shall pay all bills before next Friday then. Will be quite the challenge with the Comic Con this weekend.

I'll go get my tinfoil hat ready for the 1st though!

 tgmoore wrote:

 Alpharius wrote:
Right...

Mantic will probably run this one for 30 days though, right?

The last two Mantic Kickstarters did not.

DreadBall Extreme ran from Feb. 21 2014 to Mar. 16 2014. 24 Days total.

Mars Attacks ran from Oct. 4 2013 to Nov. 10 2013. 37 Days total.

One of those two examples doesn't support your theory!

August 1 makes sense .. make it a month long so the slower middle of the campaign part will happen at GenCon, so they can get people to demo the game there, and then go back the campaign.

I'm probably going to back it, but a little on the fence still. It looks good and I like the sculpts so far, but I have so much Descent stuff already, and barely ever get to play it.

 Alpharius wrote:

 tgmoore wrote:

 Alpharius wrote:
Right...

Mantic will probably run this one for 30 days though, right?

The last two Mantic Kickstarters did not.

DreadBall Extreme ran from Feb. 21 2014 to Mar. 16 2014. 24 Days total.

Mars Attacks ran from Oct. 4 2013 to Nov. 10 2013. 37 Days total.

One of those two examples doesn't support your theory!

? Neither are 30 days. Perhaps you meant 30 days or more?

Ah, yeah, I wasn't as clear as I should have been - sorry!

I meant to say "at least 30 days". Made sense to me...

Read my mind next time!!!!

Almost Alpharius, almost.

This might be the first Mantic KS to get me to back, if it's not too overpriced. I really want a WHQ style crawler that isn't too complicated to set up or play.

Side note: I find it really funny how the Banshee has gone from being a fairy woman to a dead spirit in "gamer mythology". Surely she'd work better in a fey faction than an undead one!

 Da Boss wrote:
This might be the first Mantic KS to get me to back, if it's not too overpriced. I really want a WHQ style crawler that isn't too complicated to set up or play.

Side note: I find it really funny how the Banshee has gone from being a fairy woman to a dead spirit in "gamer mythology". Surely she'd work better in a fey faction than an undead one!

The last two Mantic KS (Mars Attacks and DreadBall Extreme) were a pretty good value I thought. Which one did you think was over priced? I didn't know about the earlier Mantic KS and can't comment on them

I'll admit I just skimmed the wikipedia entry on Banshee's and I probally hadn't heard of a banshee before playing D&D. But I think they could go either way.

"The banshee ("woman of the barrows") is a female spirit in Irish mythology, usually seen as an omen of death and a messenger from the underworld."

Banshee also translates as "Fairy Woman" (Bean Sidhe, Woman of the Mounds, where Daoine Sidhe is "people of the mounds", a euphemistic term for Faeries who were supposed to live in ancient mounds in Ireland. Sidhe is sometimes used as a term for Faeries in general. ). Woman of the Barrows seems to me to be an incorrect translation, being a bit too specific. She's associated with death but in most myths isn't actually a dead person herself.

I can see how they become associated with undeath and so on. It just amuses me how it becomes nerd-canon, like trolls always being damaged by acid and fire, and all that.

 Da Boss wrote:
Banshee also translates as "Fairy Woman" (Bean Sidhe, Woman of the Mounds, where Daoine Sidhe is "people of the mounds", a euphemistic term for Faeries who were supposed to live in ancient mounds in Ireland. Sidhe is sometimes used as a term for Faeries in general. ). Woman of the Barrows seems to me to be an incorrect translation, being a bit too specific. She's associated with death but in most myths isn't actually a dead person herself.

I can see how they become associated with undeath and so on. It just amuses me how it becomes nerd-canon, like trolls always being damaged by acid and fire, and all that.

Megalith Games Banshee has a touct of the fey to it, though this is the first time I've heard of a Banshee being a faerie, I've always associated them to spirits of evil dead women.

Associating them with the spirits of evil dead women is an example of the pervasiveness of Nerd-Canon.

Just another evolution of mythology, but it is quite entertaining and amusing. That's a cool Banshee though.

The american versions of the Banshee tend to have her being a Ghost, but in the Irish myths, she's a fey spirit that keens for the famous Gaelic families. Sort of a mark of prestige. It then became more generalised.

(Will stop hijacking the thread with my pedantry now )

Yes, please do!

That's pretty interesting! I had no idea about any of it, either, so thanks for the background

I'll definitely be keeping an eye on this, but given past results it's very likely I'll just wait and see how it turns out. I am waiting on some Mars Attacks scenery that I ordered for a friend, and at least that seems like it was a safe bet.

I plan to pledge a dollar and then up my pledge during the manager phase if things still look good. It's the new KS trend.

Great interview with Ronnie Renton on Beasts of War, which actually includes some painted examples of the minis (some of the heroes and a skellie)

http://www.beastsofwar.com/mantic-games/dwarf-kings-quest-interview-ronnie-mantic-games/

Here are a few of the key points Ronnie mentions:

- 'This August' for a launch date, Warren mentions 'soon'.
- 'take out and play', minimum of assembly and playable out of the box
- Same material as Mars Attacks
- 100% new, completely new sculpts, nothing re-used from existing product lines
- The 'first half', basic game, is going to be more Heroquest/Warhammer Quest than Descent in terms of complexity and style of playing. A board gaming/wargaming newbie will be eased into the game in terms of how to play through a structured narrative that's designed to be balanced and fun.
But - That's only the first half of the boxset. There will be a 'abandon hope all ye who enter here' separator halfway through the box, which will let players go completely to town with quest & dungeon creation, more hero types, character creation, stats for all of the creatures in the Mantica universe. It sounds like more of a leaning towards D&D and introduction of true campaign elements.
- Zombie/Undead dwarf theme - zombies, skellies, zombie trolls, undead dwarves & retinue.

Mega excited about this, I reckon it has the potential to be Mantic's biggest Kickstarter to date.

Hopefully legs will be in proportion to torsos, and knees will not be knocked!

 Pacific wrote:


Mega excited about this, I reckon it has the potential to be Mantic's biggest Kickstarter to date.

Agree that it does at least have the potential. If they bring out dungeon builder terrain sprues, all bets are off. I'm not sure if they realise just how much cash being first to market with that product would make them. The dwarven forge stuff is brilliant, but there's plenty of room for a budget option in hard plastic too.

Just as long as they don't use the damn battlezones connectors. Horrible things.

I honestly don't think plastic dungeon tiles will happen, it goes against the general ethos of a pickup and play title and the tooling would likely be too expensive to support standalone. Sales, with deadzone the KS paid for it and they took a small hit for production as it was in every game box. With this it'd have to be an out of box add in.

I mentioned the idea of plastic tile terrain on Mantic's forums and how, if they pulled it off, they'd totally win at fantasy.

Apparently, irrespective of the financial issues, they had a go and the results were a bit iffy; the connected tiles had a tendency to "banana up" when lengths were laid down. Bit of a shame that it's a no-go, but it's nice to know that they tried.

I still think they'd be making plenty of money with decorative dungeon scenery (nevermind the game for a moment). There aren't a lot of good cheap options for the stuff, especially in plastic.

You get some Heroquest inspired pieces in there... it's on!

I wonder if they'll have a stat line for the Martians somewhere in that bottom half. At the very least the giant bugs deserve some stats!