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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/06/16 11:48:39
Subject: farewell forge world epic?
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Grimdark Advice Columnist
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NOTE: This is a 2nd (now 3rd) hand rumor.
http://wargamesfactory.lefora.com/2008/12/15/sci-fi-androids-6mm/page7/#post13760448
Lines went off their on-line catalogue on Sunday. Various people from the tactical command and warseer forums contacted ForgeWorld yesterday and got the same response. Anything that has gone from the catalogue is now out of production. Other lines will stay on the catalogue while they have stock, and callers were advised to buy now. They were then told that Forge World are reviewing the entire epic line to see if its finnancially worth continueing, and some staff hinted that they thouight this unlikely.
Sorry to be the bearer of bad news.
Anyone know more?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/06/16 11:56:54
Subject: farewell forge world epic?
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Committed Chaos Cult Marine
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So would this also mean the end of Aeronautica Imperialis?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/06/16 12:00:32
Subject: farewell forge world epic?
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Malika2 wrote:So would this also mean the end of Aeronautica Imperialis?
Dunno, but isn't AI a different scale? Epic is 6m, AI is like 10mm or 15mm.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/06/16 12:03:23
Subject: farewell forge world epic?
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Ultramarine Master with Gauntlets of Macragge
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Anyone know what else besides Epic would fall under this banner?
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The views expressed in the above post are my own views and unless stated otherwise I do not, in any way, shape or form, speak for or on the behalf of Fantasy Flight Games.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/06/16 12:05:25
Subject: farewell forge world epic?
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Grimdark Advice Columnist
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Do they still make Warmaster stuff?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/06/16 12:06:03
Subject: Re:farewell forge world epic?
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AI won't be dropped because they are pushing it as a game of their own. If items are not to be found in their booklet then they should be on the site, the thing says so.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/06/16 12:09:27
Subject: farewell forge world epic?
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Screaming Shining Spear
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Anything made of resin.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/06/16 12:12:03
Subject: farewell forge world epic?
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Committed Chaos Cult Marine
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Kid_Kyoto wrote:Malika2 wrote:So would this also mean the end of Aeronautica Imperialis?
Dunno, but isn't AI a different scale? Epic is 6m, AI is like 10mm or 15mm.
If I recall correctly AI was the same scale as Epic, it was just that the old epic aircraft models were always way smaller than they should be.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/06/16 13:19:16
Subject: farewell forge world epic?
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Boosting Black Templar Biker
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THat would be a shame if it happened... always thought about getting back into epic but somehow it always ended up with me spending my cash on BFG instead.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/06/16 13:22:56
Subject: farewell forge world epic?
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Horrific Haemonculous
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I won't miss it. We have Apocalypse for huge battles now and don't have to fart around painting models 6mm tall.
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People are like dice, a certain Frenchman said that. You throw yourself in the direction of your own choosing. People are free because they can do that. Everyone's circumstances are different, but no matter how small the choice, at the very least, you can throw yourself. It's not chance or fate. It's the choice you made. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/06/16 13:36:35
Subject: farewell forge world epic?
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PRIMARCH
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I will miss it, and wonder how many years will have to pass before GW tries again.
"Epic" scale is an awesome way to represent the 'true' scale of combat in the 40K universe, and really the only way a superheavy or titan should hit the table...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/06/16 13:38:03
Subject: farewell forge world epic?
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Mutilatin' Mad Dok
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Thing is many people said 'If you really want to play battles that large just go play epic' and the detail level of forgeworld epic miniatures was really jawdroping.
Anyone know what else then epic is sitting on the firing line as of yet? Automatically Appended Next Post: Alpharius draws quicker then Paul.
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Understanding the scope of the problem is the first step on the path to true panic. - Florence Ambrose
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/06/16 13:48:56
Subject: farewell forge world epic?
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Boom! Leman Russ Commander
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Cheese Elemental wrote:I won't miss it. We have Apocalypse for huge battles now and don't have to fart around painting models 6mm tall.
I will miss it, for the exact opposite reasons. Epic is ten times the wargame system Apocalypse ever could be.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/06/16 14:07:11
Subject: farewell forge world epic?
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[DCM]
5th God of Chaos! (Yea'rly!)
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Cheese Elemental wrote:I won't miss it. We have Apocalypse for huge battles now and don't have to fart around painting models 6mm tall.
The you sir don't have a clue what real wargaming is. Epic invites me to wipe my incredibly large and hairy keister with Apocalypse. EPIC has something called tactics which involve more than piling your guys onto a table and making pew pew noises. Its not Avalon Hill level, but tactics, morale, and preplanning are required.
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"imagine this straw...in your skull!!!" -Genghis Connie, former master of all 2nd grade (and Frazzled's light in a world of greys) Jeez she's as tall as the Wife now!
-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
-“It will be a three-fold assault consisting of rapid response assault troops (dachshunds), cavalry (soldiers riding giant dachshunds), and airborne troopers (parachuting dachshunds). We shall take over the nations of the cat-worshipping heretics.” -Micahaphone on the coming of Dachshundskrieg.
-"you smash through the door in a wiener dog suit, brandish a hunk of pancake batter & chocolate chip covered sausage roll above your head triumphantly, and shrilly howl "FREEEEEEEEEEEEDDDDDDDOOOOOOOOOMMMMMMMMMMM!!!!!!!", and eat it in one bite, only to grab another from the 10 you have stowed on your belt. "-daedalus-templarius
Frazzled, the only man to have proven before a jury that playing 40K does not make you strange, just a dork. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/06/16 14:11:45
Subject: farewell forge world epic?
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Horrific Haemonculous
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I don't like tiny miniatures. 'nuff said.
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People are like dice, a certain Frenchman said that. You throw yourself in the direction of your own choosing. People are free because they can do that. Everyone's circumstances are different, but no matter how small the choice, at the very least, you can throw yourself. It's not chance or fate. It's the choice you made. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/06/16 14:14:16
Subject: farewell forge world epic?
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[DCM]
Angels Vindictus Terminator with Plasma Cannon
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Cheese Elemental wrote:I don't like tiny miniatures. 'nuff said.
Oh, the irony.
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2012:
40k/WHFB Games Played: 0
Money spent on models: $1161.73
Models fully painted: 0 (178 fully base coated)
Blog: Breotan's Skaven Army
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/06/16 14:15:19
Subject: farewell forge world epic?
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Horrific Haemonculous
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 I suppose it's a bit contradictory. I meant the really small ones like Flames of War and Epic.
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People are like dice, a certain Frenchman said that. You throw yourself in the direction of your own choosing. People are free because they can do that. Everyone's circumstances are different, but no matter how small the choice, at the very least, you can throw yourself. It's not chance or fate. It's the choice you made. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/06/16 14:17:02
Subject: farewell forge world epic?
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[DCM]
5th God of Chaos! (Yea'rly!)
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Och you're missing out on what real wargaming is then. 40K is beer and pretzels or a launching platform for painting/converting. Apocalypse is pew pew noises.
A whole world of real wargaming is out there.
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"imagine this straw...in your skull!!!" -Genghis Connie, former master of all 2nd grade (and Frazzled's light in a world of greys) Jeez she's as tall as the Wife now!
-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
-“It will be a three-fold assault consisting of rapid response assault troops (dachshunds), cavalry (soldiers riding giant dachshunds), and airborne troopers (parachuting dachshunds). We shall take over the nations of the cat-worshipping heretics.” -Micahaphone on the coming of Dachshundskrieg.
-"you smash through the door in a wiener dog suit, brandish a hunk of pancake batter & chocolate chip covered sausage roll above your head triumphantly, and shrilly howl "FREEEEEEEEEEEEDDDDDDDOOOOOOOOOMMMMMMMMMMM!!!!!!!", and eat it in one bite, only to grab another from the 10 you have stowed on your belt. "-daedalus-templarius
Frazzled, the only man to have proven before a jury that playing 40K does not make you strange, just a dork. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/06/16 14:19:49
Subject: farewell forge world epic?
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Horrific Haemonculous
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I'd rather play Pokemon with five-year-olds who have ADD than paint an Epic scale mini.
Someday, I hope to raise my painting skills from absymal to god-forsaken.
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People are like dice, a certain Frenchman said that. You throw yourself in the direction of your own choosing. People are free because they can do that. Everyone's circumstances are different, but no matter how small the choice, at the very least, you can throw yourself. It's not chance or fate. It's the choice you made. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/06/16 14:23:15
Subject: farewell forge world epic?
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[DCM]
5th God of Chaos! (Yea'rly!)
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EPIC scale minis are substantially easier to paint than 40K scale. Much less detail required. Two to three colors for infantry means you can paint all your infantry in 2 hours if you want.
And now a blast from the past real game:
Brings back memories of the 3rd grade. Fun!
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2009/06/16 14:23:59
"imagine this straw...in your skull!!!" -Genghis Connie, former master of all 2nd grade (and Frazzled's light in a world of greys) Jeez she's as tall as the Wife now!
-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
-“It will be a three-fold assault consisting of rapid response assault troops (dachshunds), cavalry (soldiers riding giant dachshunds), and airborne troopers (parachuting dachshunds). We shall take over the nations of the cat-worshipping heretics.” -Micahaphone on the coming of Dachshundskrieg.
-"you smash through the door in a wiener dog suit, brandish a hunk of pancake batter & chocolate chip covered sausage roll above your head triumphantly, and shrilly howl "FREEEEEEEEEEEEDDDDDDDOOOOOOOOOMMMMMMMMMMM!!!!!!!", and eat it in one bite, only to grab another from the 10 you have stowed on your belt. "-daedalus-templarius
Frazzled, the only man to have proven before a jury that playing 40K does not make you strange, just a dork. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/06/16 14:24:26
Subject: Re:farewell forge world epic?
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Bloodthirsty Chaos Knight
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Fazzled is right CE, Epic was an awesome system, it requires you to think alot more a reason why I still play it and don't play 40k anymore (even though im going to dip my toes into 40k again wish me luck).
It is a true wargaming experience as 40k is a Skirmish game not a huge battle game, that is what epic was deisgned for, you can complain and disregard the minis all you want but for feths sake try and read the rules before you bash the entire game.
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When you give total control to a computer, it’s only a matter of time before it pulls a Skynet on you and you’re running for your life.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/06/16 14:25:44
Subject: farewell forge world epic?
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Horrific Haemonculous
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Take your stone-age games elsewhere. This is a forum of the present. If I wanted to have fun with something old, I'd throw water balloons at Old Man Jenkins next door And of course I don't hate Epic, I just think Apocalypse is better.
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People are like dice, a certain Frenchman said that. You throw yourself in the direction of your own choosing. People are free because they can do that. Everyone's circumstances are different, but no matter how small the choice, at the very least, you can throw yourself. It's not chance or fate. It's the choice you made. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/06/16 14:29:11
Subject: Re:farewell forge world epic?
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Bloodthirsty Chaos Knight
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Epic Scale Games
Games played on an Epic scale. EPIC 40K, WARMASTER, etc.
complete epic list?
At: 2009/06/07 21:21:40
By: lokilokust 37 210
Need I say more..........................
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When you give total control to a computer, it’s only a matter of time before it pulls a Skynet on you and you’re running for your life.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/06/16 14:39:33
Subject: Re:farewell forge world epic?
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Shadowy Mandrake
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A group of us in our club had been batting around playing epic for years, especially when GW rereleased the living rule book and new models. We then sat back and watched as everything was pulled from the shelves (again) and realized it would not be a supported game. Our local store didnt make much if any money stocking and selling it so getting stuff just got dificult. We finally just gave up as nobody is inspired to play a game that the company does not support.
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I do what the voices in my wifes head say...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/06/16 14:51:06
Subject: farewell forge world epic?
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Boom! Leman Russ Commander
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Cheese Elemental wrote:Take your stone-age games elsewhere. This is a forum of the present.
If I wanted to have fun with something old, I'd throw water balloons at Old Man Jenkins next door
And of course I don't hate Epic, I just think Apocalypse is better.
You have no intention of making any friends here, have you?
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Help kill Games Workshop:
Stop playing their games.
Stop buying their products. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/06/16 14:53:00
Subject: farewell forge world epic?
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Horrific Haemonculous
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Geez, I was joking. Don't get all butthurt over it
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People are like dice, a certain Frenchman said that. You throw yourself in the direction of your own choosing. People are free because they can do that. Everyone's circumstances are different, but no matter how small the choice, at the very least, you can throw yourself. It's not chance or fate. It's the choice you made. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/06/16 15:18:34
Subject: Re:farewell forge world epic?
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I'd forgotten they were even making Epic stuff. GW's worst sold game finally dissapears?
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I'm cancelling you out of shame like my subscription to White Dwarf. - Mark Corrigan: Peep Show
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/06/16 15:40:19
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It was probably also one of GW's best games...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/06/16 16:17:40
Subject: farewell forge world epic?
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Wrathful Warlord Titan Commander
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[hyperbole]Epic is the reason why we can't have nice games from GW.[/hyperbole]
It's one of their best games and it's the one that sells the worst (Bloodbowl is their second best game, and that has its own limits to selling, both written by Jervis Johnson I might add).
Warhammer 40k, on the other hand, and particularly its Apocalypse supplement, has demonstrated that there is an inverse relation between the quality of a game (rather than, say, it's playing pieces) and its success as a product. Sometimes I think this is why crappy board games like Risk, Monopoly, and so on are still steady sellers: people don't want excellence, they want mediocrity ("satisficing" in fancy jargon).
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/06/16 16:20:50
Subject: farewell forge world epic?
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[DCM]
5th God of Chaos! (Yea'rly!)
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Of course that argument is itself obviated by the popularity of chess.
Apocalypse is pushed by GW to sell larger, more expensive minis. EPIC is not pushed by GW because by its nature, it can't.
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2009/06/16 16:21:56
"imagine this straw...in your skull!!!" -Genghis Connie, former master of all 2nd grade (and Frazzled's light in a world of greys) Jeez she's as tall as the Wife now!
-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
-“It will be a three-fold assault consisting of rapid response assault troops (dachshunds), cavalry (soldiers riding giant dachshunds), and airborne troopers (parachuting dachshunds). We shall take over the nations of the cat-worshipping heretics.” -Micahaphone on the coming of Dachshundskrieg.
-"you smash through the door in a wiener dog suit, brandish a hunk of pancake batter & chocolate chip covered sausage roll above your head triumphantly, and shrilly howl "FREEEEEEEEEEEEDDDDDDDOOOOOOOOOMMMMMMMMMMM!!!!!!!", and eat it in one bite, only to grab another from the 10 you have stowed on your belt. "-daedalus-templarius
Frazzled, the only man to have proven before a jury that playing 40K does not make you strange, just a dork. |
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