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2009/11/05 20:04:39
Subject: Thirteen warriors - A themed Space Wolf list 1850
Epic.
Roll with it and don't forget the camera for bat rep.
This is a little story about four people named Everybody, Somebody, Anybody, and Nobody.
There was an important job to be done and Everybody was sure that Somebody would do it.
Anybody could have done it, but Nobody did it.
Somebody got angry about that because it was Everybody's job.
Everybody thought that Anybody could do it, but Nobody realized that Everybody wouldn't do it.
It ended up that Everybody blamed Somebody when Nobody did what Anybody could have done.
2009/11/05 22:19:53
Subject: Thirteen warriors - A themed Space Wolf list 1850
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I actually did this way back in 3rd edition, but made squad leaders, characters and vehicles the 13 warriors from the movie.
Beowolf was my Wolf Lord
Egtho (The Archer) was my LasC Annihil
etc.
Oh and my Thirteenth warrior was me. (My name is very close to the nick name from the movie/book, Ibn, that they gave the arab.)
Very fluffy and cool.
2009/11/05 23:08:47
Subject: Thirteen warriors - A themed Space Wolf list 1850
Soup and a roll wrote:
Incidentally, I don't think of the spell in terms of warping time. I've always thought of the daemon shouting "It's warp time!" in the style of MC Hammer. The bonus rolls could be due to the opponents confusion.
Horst wrote:
I think he's a dill weed, and if I ever see him in person, i'll kick him in the nuts while screaming "For the Emperor!"
2009/11/05 23:29:46
Subject: Re:Thirteen warriors - A themed Space Wolf list 1850
Love to see them Vs Orks or 'nids for the EPICNESS
Dashofpepper wrote:My wife made a pink tide (orks) of Orkettes. She's working on little blond hair and braids and boobs to go on them.
What the?! It sounds like a waaagh of Barbie toys exposed to the microwave! LOL!!! I would really like to see photos of both armies.
Also littlenibbler Orks aren't about armour saves.
Orks are about having too many models on the table, and wasting the other guy's time with your movement phase.
Orks are about having the toughest units on the table.
Orks are about not caring about how many bodies are left in a long winding trail until the squad is down to less than a third its starting strength.
Orks are about rolling more dice then you can count without the aid of a calculator or a pen and paper.
Orks are about having totally fething insane characters tearing gak down like Doc Grotsnik, Ghazghkull or Snikrot.
Orks are about being too fething awesome to die...
2009/11/06 05:07:32
Subject: Thirteen warriors - A themed Space Wolf list 1850
That's 1800 points. Slap some upgrades on the scouts to make 1850. You could take vulkan or pedro, both of whom enhance the terminators' abilities, but I would rather have the eternal warrior characters. I think the above army would take your 13 guys, even if the characters aren't nearly as extreme. Obviously the SM player could redress the balance by heavily targetting Njal, Ragnar and the Wolf Lord. None of these guys have EW, so they'd go down fairly quickly.
There is absolutely no point to this observation, since you're specifically making a thirteen warrior army. I just thought you should know that if someone had made a film about 32 warriors and 10 not-quite-as-tough guys who followed them around, you'd be in better luck competitively.
Also, I'm bored.
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2009/11/06 05:17:27
Subject: Thirteen warriors - A themed Space Wolf list 1850
That's 1800 points. Slap some upgrades on the scouts to make 1850. You could take vulkan or pedro, both of whom enhance the terminators' abilities, but I would rather have the eternal warrior characters. I think the above army would take your 13 guys, even if the characters aren't nearly as extreme. Obviously the SM player could redress the balance by heavily targetting Njal, Ragnar and the Wolf Lord. None of these guys have EW, so they'd go down fairly quickly.
There is absolutely no point to this observation, since you're specifically making a thirteen warrior army. I just thought you should know that if someone had made a film about 32 warriors and 10 not-quite-as-tough guys who followed them around, you'd be in better luck competitively.
Also, I'm bored.
Drop a Termie for another six scouts and it could be loosely based on "The 47 Ronin".... albeit with 16 of them less badass then most adaptations of that story...
Also littlenibbler Orks aren't about armour saves.
Orks are about having too many models on the table, and wasting the other guy's time with your movement phase.
Orks are about having the toughest units on the table.
Orks are about not caring about how many bodies are left in a long winding trail until the squad is down to less than a third its starting strength.
Orks are about rolling more dice then you can count without the aid of a calculator or a pen and paper.
Orks are about having totally fething insane characters tearing gak down like Doc Grotsnik, Ghazghkull or Snikrot.
Orks are about being too fething awesome to die...
2009/11/06 09:42:54
Subject: Thirteen warriors - A themed Space Wolf list 1850
I will try and get some pictures up hopefully by the end of the weekend, models are all built but not painted as yet.
Which movie are you referring to? the 13th warrior has antonio bandaras in it the other, 47 ronin i think it was, I haven't seen so don;t know about that one
PapaSmurf
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2009/11/07 09:16:23
Subject: Thirteen warriors - A themed Space Wolf list 1850
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gunfex wrote:sorry for my ignorance but...... what film are you all talking about? It sounds cool.
The movie is "The 13th Warrior" starring Antonio Banderas........and if you have not seen this movie, drop what you're doing and go rent/buy it RIGHT NOW!!!!!!!
It's based on the book "Eaters of the Dead" by Michael Crichton.
Solve a man's problem with violence and help him for a day. Teach a man how to solve his problems with violence, help him for a lifetime - Belkar Bitterleaf
2009/11/07 14:19:51
Subject: Re:Thirteen warriors - A themed Space Wolf list 1850
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I don't remember melta bombs in that movie. What do they represent? Also although it is based off of "eaters of the dead" that book is based off of the first book writen in English, yep you guessed it, Beowolf. Beowolf is the Norse rendition of the book, and eaters of the dead is the arabic rendition.
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"I can envision a world with no war, pain, or strife, were peace is constant, then I envision attacking that world because they'd never see it coming."
- Orks, 4175 points
- The face of an opponent when you lose five dozen models and say "that's it?", priceless.
2009/11/08 10:12:09
Subject: Thirteen warriors - A themed Space Wolf list 1850
I read that book in an airport once. It's the author's bullsh*t 'reimagining' of the Beowulf premise (settlement plagued by bestial attackers by night; foreign hardasses come forth to save the day). It's a terrible book that became a good action movie. It has bugger all to do with Beowulf.
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2009/11/08 18:52:25
Subject: Thirteen warriors - A themed Space Wolf list 1850
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Great concept for a fun List with minimal Characters. I Love it! The only thing I would like to see, is maybe drop 2 of the 5 WG unit and make them as Lone Wolfs. Extra staying power! or if possible, since it is very character based. Get Arjac in there!
My Armies:
Tzeentch Deamons Night Goblins Space Marins Eldar
2009/11/08 21:55:10
Subject: Re:Thirteen warriors - A themed Space Wolf list 1850
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I guess I could go into the relations myself but I think that it would be easier to just give you a link, although the essay itself is not proof, it expresses ideas that are all based to proof. http://www.essaydepot.com/essayme/2027/index.php Or read the second paragraph of wikipedia "The novel upon which the film is based is itself loosely inspired by Richard Frye's translation of ibn Fadlan's non-fictional account of his travels up the river Volga in the tenth century and the Old English heroic epic poem, Beowulf." Please do some research, reading the book in an airport is hardly enough to disprove my claim.
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"I can envision a world with no war, pain, or strife, were peace is constant, then I envision attacking that world because they'd never see it coming."
- Orks, 4175 points
- The face of an opponent when you lose five dozen models and say "that's it?", priceless.
2009/11/09 13:13:53
Subject: Re:Thirteen warriors - A themed Space Wolf list 1850
Thanks mate, but I didn't mean that I've read the book, and hence I know it's not Beowulf. I mean I've read Beowulf (in old english) and Ibn Fadlan's account (in translation) and Michael Crichton's book (in paperback). I know that the book was written to incorporate/interpret a lot of those sources, but I've come to the conclusion that the connection is a load of bullsh*t.
I'm not having a go at you personally, but I think the logic behind this is very tenuous. All societies have legends about things that go bump in the night. Personally I think the Grendel figure has a lot to do with the remnants of tribes that used to live in Denmark (the Vendel culture) which would fit the standard myth-creation pattern for monsters plaguing primitive tribal societies.
The essay that link leads to was written by a highschool student, and the way it's written doesn't exactly fill me with confidence.
Again, I'm not trying to insult you. But I think the connection between the two early-medieval sources and the pulp novel are the sort of thing the author goes on about to give his work a bit of gravitas. It's a book about norsemen bashing things up. Relation to old english poetry and muslim travel writing: not much.
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2009/11/09 23:45:09
Subject: Thirteen warriors - A themed Space Wolf list 1850
Piper - Arjac is in there, second group of wolf guard. And there are 4 characters, the most allowed so its really character heavy, but appropriate nonetheless
westin - 13 is crazy but I got it down to 10 models in a completely legal but stupid way
Still working on getting some pics taken, will update asap
PapaSmurf
Life moves pretty fast, If you don't stop and look around once and a while, you might miss it - Ferris Bueller
2009/11/10 00:15:52
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bigduncm24 wrote:Unfortunately, Logan and Njal cannot be in the same army... they have the same Sagas.
Actually they can...named characters are exempt from that rule.
Solve a man's problem with violence and help him for a day. Teach a man how to solve his problems with violence, help him for a lifetime - Belkar Bitterleaf
2009/11/10 17:15:30
Subject: Thirteen warriors - A themed Space Wolf list 1850
Brother Moloch awakens from his dreadnought torpor, aware only of the lone techmarine ministering to his awakening. He feels the machine-life flowing into his artificial limbs and flexes his power claws gleefully. So much power, so much strength, and yet delicate enough to handle a quill and parchment. Brother Moloch retrieves his pen and paper from his aft storage compartment and begins to write, the feel of the pen scratching at fresh paper pleasing to his machine-senses. As the techmarine turns around to monitor arcane telemetry devices, Brother Moloch produces a purity seal and gently affixes the parchment to his brother techmarine. Brother Moloch grins within the confines of his iron tomb...
...6 centuries later and techmarines still forget to check their servo-harnesses for 'kick-me' signs.
2009/11/10 17:40:41
Subject: Thirteen warriors - A themed Space Wolf list 1850
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Orks, 4175 points
Brother Moloch awakens from his dreadnought torpor, aware only of the lone techmarine ministering to his awakening. He feels the machine-life flowing into his artificial limbs and flexes his power claws gleefully. So much power, so much strength, and yet delicate enough to handle a quill and parchment. Brother Moloch retrieves his pen and paper from his aft storage compartment and begins to write, the feel of the pen scratching at fresh paper pleasing to his machine-senses. As the techmarine turns around to monitor arcane telemetry devices, Brother Moloch produces a purity seal and gently affixes the parchment to his brother techmarine. Brother Moloch grins within the confines of his iron tomb...
