Island of Blood - New WHFB Starter Set **PICS ON Pg 11**

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**Kanluwen**

So can we see pictures of the Griffin and Swordmasters now?

**RiTides**

The GW here got display sprues, but it was all only for the new daemon models coming out, no Island of Blood sneak peeks :-/

**BrassScorpion**

Sorry, I didn't have my camera with me and it was a surprise to find the Island Of Blood sprues coming out for assembly when I got to the store, but with the sprues arriving near simultaneously in all GW stores it won't be long before pics are all over the forums. I spent the day basing my Tyrannofex, finishing my Chaos Giant converion and building the store's preview Bloodcrusher sprues. The Bloodcrushers can build three command models (which I did) or three regular troopers, and there are extra heads and great looking tiny decorative bits. I'm going to want more than one set of those for sure.

GW stores need to have the Island Of Blood models built and painted for display by the first week in August, so I suspect a lot of those one-man operated GW stores are going to be looking for assistance from customers as was the case in my local store today.

**LunaHound**

All i need to know is ... , is the helmet closer to the current spearman's shape?

Or closer to white lion charioteer's shape?

**Hulksmash**

I think I just heard that the Bloodcrushers are 3 to a box from BrassScorpion? Oh my.....Gonna see more of those around.....

**Lord of battles**

wtf

**MeanGreenStompa**

Hulksmash wrote:I think I just heard that the Bloodcrushers are 3 to a box from BrassScorpion? Oh my.....Gonna see more of those around.....

Prolly same deal as killa kanz...

**RUNE**

BrassScorpion wrote:GW stores now are now receiving their display sprues from Island Of Blood. Customers in my local GW store were assisting in assembling the models today. They look absolutely terrific. I've seen Swordmasters and the Griffin assembled. Great detail, poses, etc. The Skaven stuff looked good on the sprue. As rumored, 2 Rat Ogres and a Warp Fire Thrower among all the great smaller stuff.

Ohª Good news! Thanks!

Did you see the clanrats and slaves? What weapons for each model?

**Tim the Biovore**

Cool as. Might have to pop into my local GW just to see them.

**reds8n**

BrassScorpion wrote:GW stores now are now receiving their display sprues from Island Of Blood. Customers in my local GW store were assisting in assembling the models today. They look absolutely terrific. I've seen Swordmasters and the Griffin assembled. Great detail, poses, etc. The Skaven stuff looked good on the sprue. As rumored, 2 Rat Ogres and a Warp Fire Thrower among all the great smaller stuff.

check out the burning rat on the 'thrower

From elsewhere..

Got ahold of the minis today for Island of Blood. Skaven are amazing, High Elves pretty good. Chieftain in the style of Queek, but with a back banner and halberd. 40 Clanrats, Warpfire Thrower (complete with burning rat), Posion Wind Mortar (meh, was disappointed by this, not much detail on the mortar itself), Chieftan, Warlock Engineer, 2 Rat Ogres (tiny heads) and a Pack Master.

On the High Elf side it was a Prince on a Griffon (on a flying stand, really, really, really, ugly. It was stretched out like the Dragon is though, in a "flying motion"), 5 very nice Elerian Reavers (fantastic champion in this unit), 10 Sword Masters (pretty sure they were all unique models- same pose/different style armor and whatnots), and 10 Sea Guard.

That's all I saw, and was told it's going to be $90. I'm getting 2 for my Skaven, unfortunately all the Clanrats have shields sculpted on.

Clanrats are armed with hand weapons IIRC.

**RUNE**

And no slaves for the skavens? :(

**blackclaw1**

my local gw last night got a box with the ssprues from island of blood in so they can put them on the intro table , the blue shirt wasn't telling anything but there is definatly some new high elf plastic

**Kirasu**

yeah thats a bit dissapointing if there are no slaves.. to me that was a big selling point since actual slave models are MORE dollars than points

**Bloodwin**

RUNE wrote:And no slaves for the skavens? :(

I can only think that they might be doing what they did with the clanrat box and make some models as possible slaves but make them so similar that they can bulk out clanrats. My other thought is that perhaps they havent sent out absolutely everything that is going to be in the big box and are holding some bits back for next month's black box. Kind of "heres some models to be getting on with" but I think that's a bit of a longshot. I also think that there's way too few High Elf models givent that I woudl expect the first fights to be straight infantry vs infantry and then work up to an 'everything that's in the box' batlle royale. How do the points compare? (I don't have the High Elf book)

**Jayden63**

Kroothawk wrote:For people who like to browse small pics, here is a studio cabinet with lots of High Elf and Skaven models. Are the rat Ogres and the engineer in the small pic new or conversions?

(pics found by VenomBlood over at Warseer).

I call shenanigans. That is clearly a doctored pic. I've never ever seen a work area that clean. Not even one barely set up. Where are the bits of sprue scattered about. The ink stains on the wood. Totally photo shopped. I don't trust it.

**CaseyVa**

Wait, so there are only 10 SeaGuard? I thought there were supposed to be 20. With there only being 10 it's going to be hard to base it into the start of a larger army.

**Necros**

CaseyVa wrote:Wait, so there are only 10 SeaGuard? I thought there were supposed to be 20. With there only being 10 it's going to be hard to base it into the start of a larger army.

Thats why you're supposed to buy 2 or 3 starter sets

**UltraPrime**

Then you end up with multiple command models. It's a shame, really.

**His Master's Voice**

UltraPrime wrote:Then you end up with multiple command models. It's a shame, really.

I can't see any downside as far as GW is concerned.

**skrulnik**

Necros wrote:
CaseyVa wrote:Wait, so there are only 10 SeaGuard? I thought there were supposed to be 20. With there only being 10 it's going to be hard to base it into the start of a larger army.

Thats why you're supposed to buy 2 or 3 starter sets

I would bank on a SeaGuard box of 10 shortly after the starter is released, like they did with the Spider Riders.

I bet the skaven specials stay in just the box, like the DeffKoptaz. I wish it were different, but that is my gut feelings on this.

**Terminus**

I thought I read somewhere that each side gets a full 1000 points. I'm not at all familiar with WFB point values, but those model line-ups don't really seem like they'd add up to a full 1000. Of course, in the same place it also had the Skaven getting a bunch of slaves and a doomwheel/bell/something.

I gotta say, I haven't played Fantasy in a good 10 years, and this boxed set has me kind of excited since I've always thought of the Skaven as neat. A buddy of mine who plays High Elves and I will probably each buy a boxed set, and swap the models. Like I don't have enough damn hobbies. *grumble*

As a side note, that's an awesome workspace and those shelves kick ass! I need to make me a corner like that instead of having all in a disorganized pile mixed with brass and gunpowder.

**Bloodwin**

Jayden63 wrote:I call shenanigans. That is clearly a doctored pic. I've never ever seen a work area that clean. Not even one barely set up. Where are the bits of sprue scattered about. The ink stains on the wood. Totally photo shopped. I don't trust it.

OK I'm gonna bite... Photoshopped? Really? No, this doesn't look like it has been digitally manipulated. This is just a staged photo the same as any companies do, and I'd expect nothing less. I mean look at the blatant product placement. What is interesting is that those models may well be the Island of blood ones. Complaining about this is like complaining about the photos in White Dwarf's battle reports.

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skrulnik wrote:
Necros wrote:
CaseyVa wrote:Wait, so there are only 10 SeaGuard? I thought there were supposed to be 20. With there only being 10 it's going to be hard to base it into the start of a larger army.

Thats why you're supposed to buy 2 or 3 starter sets

I would bank on a SeaGuard box of 10 shortly after the starter is released, like they did with the Spider Riders.

I bet the skaven specials stay in just the box, like the DeffKoptaz. I wish it were different, but that is my gut feelings on this.

If this is the final tally of figures I would be very disappointed if I were playing High Elves. Part of starting a new game with friends is to feel you have 'parity'. The last set with Dwarves and Goblins had big units on both sides, these tiny HE units would put me off.

**MasterSlowPoke**

He was obviously joking.

**JohnHwangDD**

reds8n wrote:Clanrats are armed with hand weapons IIRC.

Are they stabbing the model in front of them, like in the good old days?

**Jin**

Got ahold of the minis today for Island of Blood. Skaven are amazing, High Elves pretty good. Chieftain in the style of Queek, but with a back banner and halberd. 40 Clanrats, Warpfire Thrower (complete with burning rat), Posion Wind Mortar (meh, was disappointed by this, not much detail on the mortar itself), Chieftan, Warlock Engineer, 2 Rat Ogres (tiny heads) and a Pack Master.

On the High Elf side it was a Prince on a Griffon (on a flying stand, really, really, really, ugly. It was stretched out like the Dragon is though, in a "flying motion"), 5 very nice Elerian Reavers (fantastic champion in this unit), 10 Sword Masters (pretty sure they were all unique models- same pose/different style armor and whatnots), and 10 Sea Guard.

Sigh. And here I was hopeful that we could get a non-fugly Griffon model in plastic. Really surprised there's only 10 Sea Guard, though. That's a really useless number of them.

Still, that's ~ 750 points worth of stuff on the HE side. Not sure on the numbers for the Skaven. Seems a bit unbalanced in favor of the Skaven there.

**nieto666**

only ten seaguard? If thats the case they can keep the damn thing.

**Alpharius**

I'm holding out hope that the Griffon is NOT as bad as we've heard...

Please!

**JohnHwangDD**

Alpharius wrote:I'm holding out hope that the Griffon is NOT as bad as we've heard...

Please!

Maybe that's the real reason why GW refuses to show pics of the starter set?

became

And then it's all downhill?
____

Dreadclaw?

Deathwing? Nah.

Stormwing!!!

**Alpharius**

The High Elf version was nice too... Some odd elf hero was riding it... had a cool name too (The Griffon that is)...

**Flashman**

Skaven would appear to cost out as follows...

40 Clanrats with Shields & Full Command = 200pts (if broken down into two units = 110pts each)
Poison Wind Mortar & Warp Fire Thrower = 140pts
Chieftain = 45pts plus (depending on magic items)
Engineer = 15pts to 100pts plus (depending magic level and magic items)

Grand Total = Somewhere between 400 and 600pts

I think the Clanrats will probably be my Bell pushing unit, who I never really envisaged as being armed with spears.