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UNCLEBADTOUCH wrote:
Makes me wonder if they have decided they can't afford the tooling with fully unique contents for a starter. The other possibility is they want the flexibility to change the contents to keep things fresh and do more product tie ins/fill out some existing holes in product lines.


I think the idea behind campaign boxes that give starts to two armies and a campaign around them (with friends, instead of just being X vs. Y) is a good idea overall, although it remains to be seen how the execution of it pans out. Personally I'd like if it was a more generic campaign that just happened to have two small forces in a box, though, or better yet a "collection" where you buy the generic campaign book and get to pick what two armies you want (like that would ever happen again, though) for the most variety.

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WayneTheGame wrote:
Isn't the campaign book meant to just be some missions using the figures in the box, or is that something else?



Its part of the Sanctus Reach campaign so it looks like a campaign/starter box combined. Also from what I've read its only while stocks last so this could be the start of a new trend of box sets.
   
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Bit gutted that there are no new starter models.. Won't be picking this up.


edit : I realise the characters are new, but Grukk isn't much of a change from the AOBR boss, and the new Wolf doesn't interest me.

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Assuming they continue to roll out similar themed box set releases -- tied to a campaign book for example -- one assumes this is, perhaps, the source of the long rumoured different faction starter sets that were doing the rounds a wee while back.

If they are indeed a smaller production run than previous intro sets it#d be much easier to recall or simply drop them as/when a new edition of the rules comes out.

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 reds8n wrote:
Assuming they continue to roll out similar themed box set releases -- tied to a campaign book for example -- one assumes this is, perhaps, the source of the long rumoured different faction starter sets that were doing the rounds a wee while back.

I'd love that, especially if they'd do it for Fantasy, too!

   
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That it that's massively disappointing for the orks and not much better for the wolves seems very light to me almost like the box starter with nids and ultra marines in it.

Bring back aobr
   
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Gretchin were probably included because its the the only way GW can shift all the unsold sprues from their warehouse.
   
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I don't care about the models in the box. I'm happy Space Wolves are getting a new codex. Codex Rumors I've heard : Hunter/Stalker is in, Stormraven is in, stormtalon is out, Canis got the axe (which is not a big deal because no one used him anyway).

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 Kanluwen wrote:

I like what I see. It looks like they're moving towards just repackaging existing stock rather than creating entirely new stuff just for the starters.


Don't like what I see, exactly for the same reason. Starter sets were a nice way to get some new models that weren't allready available for a decent price. See AOBR deffcopta, which is probably the stock material for half the bikes and buggies out there. If they just put old stuff in a nex box, this cuts not only into the amount of new models released, it can be also used for some shenanigans to get rid of old stuff. Want that shiny new warboss? Well, it's packaged with some gorkamorka-era buggies, so prepare shelf space for stuff too ugly to buy for half price.

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Random Dude wrote:
I don't care about the models in the box. I'm happy Space Wolves are getting a new codex. Codex Rumors I've heard : Hunter/Stalker is in, Stormraven is in, stormtalon is out, Canis got the axe (which is not a big deal because no one used him anyway).

Are you the source on these?

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10penceman wrote:
That it that's massively disappointing for the orks and not much better for the wolves seems very light to me almost like the box starter with nids and ultra marines in it.

Bring back aobr


Eh... I mean if you get the starter and a Battleforce for the SWs you'd be off to a good start I think, although sans any kind of vehicle. But that'd give you:

* 1x Wolf Lord
* 5x Termies
* 15x Grey Hunters
* 15x Blood Claws
* 5x Scouts
* 1x Drop Pod

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WayneTheGame wrote:
10penceman wrote:
That it that's massively disappointing for the orks and not much better for the wolves seems very light to me almost like the box starter with nids and ultra marines in it.

Bring back aobr


Eh... I mean if you get the starter and a Battleforce for the SWs you'd be off to a good start I think, although sans any kind of vehicle. But that'd give you:

* 1x Wolf Lord
* 5x Termies
* 15x Grey Hunters
* 15x Blood Claws
* 5x Scouts
* 1x Drop Pod


I think you've got a typo there.

* 1x Wolf Lord
* 5x Termies
* 30x Grey Hunters
* 5x Scouts
* 1x Drop Pod

That gives you 6 packs of 5 Grey Hunters, with five led by Wolf Guard in TDA and one led by the Wolf Guard Battle Leader in power armor. Slap the one with the heavy flamer or assault cannon Wolf Guard in the pod and call it a day.
   
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DaddyWarcrimes wrote:
WayneTheGame wrote:
10penceman wrote:
That it that's massively disappointing for the orks and not much better for the wolves seems very light to me almost like the box starter with nids and ultra marines in it.

Bring back aobr


Eh... I mean if you get the starter and a Battleforce for the SWs you'd be off to a good start I think, although sans any kind of vehicle. But that'd give you:

* 1x Wolf Lord
* 5x Termies
* 15x Grey Hunters
* 15x Blood Claws
* 5x Scouts
* 1x Drop Pod


I think you've got a typo there.

* 1x Wolf Lord
* 5x Termies
* 30x Grey Hunters
* 5x Scouts
* 1x Drop Pod

That gives you 6 packs of 5 Grey Hunters, with five led by Wolf Guard in TDA and one led by the Wolf Guard Battle Leader in power armor. Slap the one with the heavy flamer or
assault cannon Wolf Guard in the pod and call it a day.


Doesn't it come with Blood Claws? Or is it the same sprue? I haven't looked at Wolfies in a long time to know if it's one sprue that makes either.

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Same sprues. Just depends on how you load them out.

 
   
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Well, this is tough. If it has the new rules in it, well, the figures alone are at about a 20% discount, so, that's good.

On the other hand, it's filled with models that I don't actually *need*, so.
   
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 cincydooley wrote:
Same sprues. Just depends on how you load them out.


Now this becomes very tempting to look into. That plus a Battleforce is nearly 1000 points (albeit mostly footslogging).

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I bet it'll be $250+ here in Oz.

 Kanluwen wrote:
I like what I see. It looks like they're moving towards just repackaging existing stock rather than creating entirely new stuff just for the starters.


It's not a tumour... I mean starter. It's not a starter.


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It's a good price, but I'll probably pass. I have 60+ grey hunters and plenty of WGTerms; The grots I could use and I could convert the Kans into Big Gunz, but the Nobs aren't particularly useful. I'll just have to find someone who wants to sell Krom and maybe the campaign book.

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I'm calculating that the armies in the box are about 385 pts Orks vs. 450 pts SW, am I right?
   
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 pretre wrote:
Random Dude wrote:
I don't care about the models in the box. I'm happy Space Wolves are getting a new codex. Codex Rumors I've heard : Hunter/Stalker is in, Stormraven is in, stormtalon is out, Canis got the axe (which is not a big deal because no one used him anyway).

Are you the source on these?


He likely just read it on BOLS as it is the newest article there this morning.

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I could not be more flaccid about this if I tried. It's insipid, uninspired, and any other mean words you can think of. I got multiple copies of the last 3 starter sets, and this is the first one I've went 'eh don't think I'll bother'.


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150 points (Work in progress) 40% painted
 
   
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 warboss wrote:
 pretre wrote:
Random Dude wrote:
I don't care about the models in the box. I'm happy Space Wolves are getting a new codex. Codex Rumors I've heard : Hunter/Stalker is in, Stormraven is in, stormtalon is out, Canis got the axe (which is not a big deal because no one used him anyway).

Are you the source on these?


He likely just read it on BOLS as it is the newest article there this morning.

Yeah, was just checking my feed. BOLS it is.

http://www.belloflostsouls.net/2014/07/space-wolves-rumor-roundup-someones.html

This set is fresh off the rumor wires coming to us from a set of both known and unknown sources.

- Space Wolves move into the "modern age" with access many of the new Astartes kits and toys:
- The Hunter / Stalker is in
- The Stormraven is in
- The Stormtalon is out...
- Canis goes the way of the Dodo...


I think that's probably false already. Unlikely that SW get the Hunter and Stormraven. Although Long Fangs in Centurion suits would be hilarious.


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 JeneralJoe117 wrote:
I could not be more flaccid about this if I tried.

TMI, dude, TMI.

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 warboss wrote:
 pretre wrote:
Random Dude wrote:
I don't care about the models in the box. I'm happy Space Wolves are getting a new codex. Codex Rumors I've heard : Hunter/Stalker is in, Stormraven is in, stormtalon is out, Canis got the axe (which is not a big deal because no one used him anyway).

Are you the source on these?


He likely just read it on BOLS as it is the newest article there this morning.


With the oh-so-typical "Isn't this awesome?! Get your wallets ready to buy lots of GW stuff!" attitude, I'm sure...

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The Space Wolves are getting a new flyer.

It's been confirmed by other, more reliable sources that have a 100% rumor accuracy rating.

 
   
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 prowla wrote:
I'm calculating that the armies in the box are about 385 pts Orks vs. 450 pts SW, am I right?


With the options I can make out as modeled the SW come to 445 minus the Lord. I might be missing a plasma pistol or something though.

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 prowla wrote:
I'm calculating that the armies in the box are about 385 pts Orks vs. 450 pts SW, am I right?

Depends. I don't know about the Orks, but with just the parts in there just the Wolf Guard termy squad could hit about that (2 Lone Wolves in TDA+gear, 2 WG Termies, Arjac Rockfist). The GH could also be build as Wolf Guard, so again, more points there.Of course, it's not neccesarily a good idea to do so, but it's doable.

It's certainly more value for SW players than Orks.

 
   
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 cincydooley wrote:
The Space Wolves are getting a new flyer.

It's been confirmed by other, more reliable sources that have a 100% rumor accuracy rating.

Umm. Okay, now you're just making stuff up.

First, link.
Second, there's like one or two mongers with 100% and I don't remember them saying anything.

Also, BOLS posted this gem:
This set is fresh off the rumor wires coming to us from a set of both known and unknown sources.

-Lords of War: Logan & Bjorn
-New big kit for SWs is a "Legendary Fenrisian Monster and handler(s)"
-All other SW releases will be plastic reworks of existing Finecast, or very old plastics.

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WayneTheGame wrote:
 warboss wrote:
 pretre wrote:
Random Dude wrote:
I don't care about the models in the box. I'm happy Space Wolves are getting a new codex. Codex Rumors I've heard : Hunter/Stalker is in, Stormraven is in, stormtalon is out, Canis got the axe (which is not a big deal because no one used him anyway).

Are you the source on these?


He likely just read it on BOLS as it is the newest article there this morning.


With the oh-so-typical "Isn't this awesome?! Get your wallets ready to buy lots of GW stuff!" attitude, I'm sure...


That is a bit mean spirited for seemingly no reason; if he's happy about the set, good for him. I'm not impressed as it is a combo apparently of mostly existing kits except for two characters and is priced way above other starters. The starters used to be a great buy if you wanted ONE of the two armies and the rulebook back with AOBR, lessened to just a good buy with DV, and are now a pass if this pans out at $130. I like the SW character's look but not for over $100. Also, the fact that the codex books went hardcover and the rules got split into three books lessens the appeal of buying it for the mini rulebook for me. Back in 5th, I could plop my codex and rules into my GW hardcases and be ready to go but I can't do that without crushing models with the larger hardcovers. I basically have to bring my tablet or hardcovers regardless.

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 JeneralJoe117 wrote:
I could not be more flaccid about this if I tried. It's insipid, uninspired, and any other mean words you can think of. I got multiple copies of the last 3 starter sets, and this is the first one I've went 'eh don't think I'll bother'.



It's not a starter set.

...is it?

   
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 pretre wrote:

I think that's probably false already. Unlikely that SW get the Hunter and Stormraven. Although Long Fangs in Centurion suits would be hilarious.


I could easily see that happening just like how the LR Crusader proliferated back in 3rd through 5th. It would also be in GW character if the Dark Angels got screwed and were the only SM codex who don't get to use the flyer without using the stupid unbound rules for one unit. And, yes, Long Fangs in Centurions would be hilarious. Just think of the beards! They'd be like space marine dwarves with big guns.

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