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does anyone use Plasma sponsons on regular Leman Russes? i like them on my Executioner and Demolisher, but i've not heard much talk about them on the "regular" variants.
if anyone does use them, are they worth it? i like the idea of them, but at 40 points... and if you loose your battle cannon it is still a little lethal.

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I do on occasion, I find it to be the best sponson option. Of course, I only do this when I don't have the points for an Executioner.

Actually, something interesting to consider would be normal Russ with sponsons versus an Executioner without. The Executioner will lose all its power to a single weapon destroyed, but is more mobile and has better rear armor.
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Well,they worth it on an executioner but I dun think any others

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i think i'd go with the regular Russ in that given example. i'm more interested in it's offensive output than the Executioners defensive strengths.
and i think i'd be running a Hull Heavy Bolter. for points reasons mainly.

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Depends in the way you play your russes..if you play them mobile, then the sponsons are obviously not needed...

I usually play my russ mobile, thus I do not use sponsons.....while it has happened that I lose the battlecannon on the 1st turn (note that so far in 5th ed I have never lost the russ in turn 1), this is extremely rare (happened just once) , and in that game I had the russ become a large battering ram while it's HB chattered away...


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I don't own an executioner but I regularly field a russ with plasma sponsons. It's 40 pts well spent. The batlecannon is good for cracking rhinos (not it's optimal target obviously, but if you don't open any on the first turn and have no good meq targets then why not?) and the plasma is great for dealing with the sweet treats inside! Also great for making terminators too scared to deepstrike.

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theere are only 2 builds for a russ MBT that I endorse:
Hull Lascannon
and Hull HB +HB Sponsons

Single hull las can move and shoot at tanks/MC effectively(well for a MBT)

all HB Sits still and unloads on troops.

PC Sponsons are a little too expensive on a MBT and MM need to move to fire.

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Play a MEQ army vs a normal Lemon russ with plasma sponsons. Get back to me after you pick up your teeth off the floor.

They are fan-bloody-tastic against Rhino rush/anything with a 3+save, provided you have something to open up the tin can those juicy marines come in (also known as a rhino). Why, a smattering of AC's in your list with that Lemon and voila! Your opponents marines will cringe in fear!

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If you think about a regular russ with plasma sponsons = LR executioner in points cost....hmmm..making me think....


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freddieyu1 wrote:If you think about a regular russ with plasma sponsons = LR executioner in points cost....hmmm..making me think....


actually, Mine is 40 points more. i would have the 40 point Plasmacannons on my Executioner too. the Russ would be like a poor man's Executioner.
i think for 15 more points i'd go with a Demolisher with HHB and plasma sponsons.

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freddieyu1 wrote:If you think about a regular russ with plasma sponsons = LR executioner in points cost....hmmm..making me think....


actually, Mine is 40 points more. i would have the 40 point Plasmacannons on my Executioner too. the Russ would be like a poor man's Executioner.


Totally. Still does the the job, just not as good a job on TEQ's. I've been playing against it more in 1200-1700 point games, although at 1700 you would be more likely to see it.

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Ok, I'll try testing the plasma sponsons on the regular russ....I'm the type who likes quantity, and I'm uncomfortable if any single unit goes over 200 pts...thus it's the regular LR + sponsons for my experiment...


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I don't think plasma on a LRBT is a waste of points, that's for sure. Better at higher point levels, as it adds almost a third to the price. But what a nice way to take advantage of Lumbering Bohemeth - what other unit can move and still pop off large and small blast plates? Sitting still, it's got even better firepower, and at 36".
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hmmmm again....


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