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i am just starting to get into 40k and decided to go with the dark angels deathwing. here is my first shot at an army list please give me some feedback of what you think.

HQ: Belial- 130

Troop: Terminators-220
Sergant with Power sword/storm bolter,X2 LC, X1 TH, x1 Heavy Flamer

Troop: Terminators-240
Sergant with power sword/Storm bolter, X1 chainfist, x1 cyclone missile launcher

troop: Terminators-250
Sergant with power sword/Storm bolter, X1 Chainfist, X1 Assault cannon

troop: Terminators-250
Sergant with power sword/Storm bolter, X1 Chainfist, X1 Assault cannon

Elite: Venerable Dreadnought-160
With Flamer

Heavy Support: LR Crusader-250

Total-1500

not sure if i should go with the assault cannon or twin linked autocannon on the dread. any advice overall would be greatly appreciated

Well, I'd reconsider the LRC.
Its the only fast unit in your army while the rest cannot keep up with it.
I'd give the first DW unit a cyclone, drop the LRC, and add either a Tactical unit with lascannon or a RW Bike squadron with 2 meltas.

The LRC is good for a spearhead, but a bit out of place for the rest of the army.

I'd also get more TH and SS for your terminators. The 3+Inv save makes them really hard to kill and they're like powerfists, but better. Then again, that's my personal choice.

Read codex, then give advice . Deathwng does not have a 3++ Shield.

Need to take an apot in the LRC squad. Its the best pice of equipment in the codex. Escpecially since it can negate a failed cover save on your LRC...

I would drop one termie squad and take a second LRC.

tedurur wrote:Read codex, then give advice . Deathwng does not have a 3++ Shield.

Need to take an apot in the LRC squad. Its the best pice of equipment in the codex. Escpecially since it can negate a failed cover save on your LRC...

I would drop one termie squad and take a second LRC.

This is the best advice in this thread. LRC's are GREAT and the mobility, armor, and weapons will do a lot to overcome your severe numbers advantage. Put two of your term squads in the LRCs, plan on deepstriking the other.

I play against a good Deathwing player, and his dread(s) have twin-linked autocannons giving him more ranged attack. Also, he seems to have more lightning claws and heavy flamers in his mix, giving his terminators more of an "all comers" feel. The chainfists are nasty, though, so keep those.

I tip my cap to you, though. Deathwing is a hard army to win consistently with. For a first army, be prepared to take some lumps. But learn from them, play smart and tactically, and you should improve. Good luck!

Alright thanks for the feed back! when i first looked to make my 1500 DW i was going to use 2LRC so i think i will go with them. and i think i will add another LC and TH into each of my other squads. so here is what i have now.

HQ: Belial- 130

Troop: Terminators-220
Sergant with Power sword/storm bolter,X2 LC, X1 TH, x1 Heavy Flamer

Troop: Terminators-240
Sergant with power sword/Storm bolter, X1 chainfist, x1 cyclone missile launcher, X1LC

troop: Terminators-250
Sergant with power sword/Storm bolter, X1 Chainfist, X1 Assault cannon, X1 TH

Elite: Venerable Dreadnought-160
With Flamer

Heavy Support: LR Crusader-250

Heavy support: LRC-250

Total-1500

i think this is what i am going to go with. i will prob have belial with twin LCs and have him n the first squad.

i am really looking forward to the challange with my DW army, the lack of numbers is what kind of what got me hooked on the army. i know i have a challange ahead of me and i am looking forward to it.

Space Wolves Loganwing instead of Deathwing would be a better choice. Then all your termies get great weapon options and updated wargear.

I'm glad I'm not the only person starting Deathwing armies ^_^ Anyway this is my list.
HQ: Belial -130

Elites: 5 Man Scout Squad - 100
Sniper Rifles

Troops: Deathwing Terminators - 280
4 TH/SS
Heavy Flamer Chain fist
Apothecary
Banner

Troops: Deathwing Terminators - 235
Sarge TH/SS
Cyclone launcher - 20

Troops: Deathwing Terminators - 250
Chain fist
Assault Cannon

Heavy Support

LRC - 250

LRC - 250


Scouts with BS 4 is quite useful lol.

do the scouts work pretty well? its just going to be my pref that i am not going to have anything other than Termis dreds and LR (at least at first), but thats just my pref. i plan In putting a command squad similar to yours for 1750. but overall i like you army and let me know how it plays.

also what do you have on belial? just wondering.

I too have begun to use my DW against our local league for this quarter. I took a SW player out by killpoint last night. I will be using belial, 2 termie squads (1LC, 1HF, 3 SS/TH) each mounted in a LRC and LR, supported by 3 attack squadrons of 1 speeder with AC/MM and a vindicator. I take on a CSM player tomorrow, we'll see how that goes. remember that DA smoke is different (ala 4E), storm shields only give 4+ in CC, if you can fit the standard in Belials squad I would, the Apothecary is ok but who uses cover saves consistently to save his assaulting LR's? I am not saying don't use it, but if your not deploying smoke on the 1st turn and into delivery turn 2 what good is a LR? Usually my LR is screening my more vulnerable troops. Also the previous poster is correct, when used properly a DW list can be highly mobile, this helps to counter the low model count. Also read up on the DA machine spirit, its a bit different from the new one (BS 2 for instance).

Sorry about the fail advice.

Scouts are good for sniping imo, but apart from that I think they're a waste of points.

Well, since they have BS4 in the DA codex that 5 man squad should be pretty good.
Also I haven't played the list because I don't have the Land Raiders built yet but I will tell you how it goes.

Your second list is better, but I cant stress the importance of the apot enough.