doubt it's an ork blade. that would look much more like this

that would make an interesting warboss model

Polonius wrote:Two things: the kroot aren't exclusive to the Tau, as they need to fight (and eat) many differnt species to evolve. The vast bulk of Kroot fight for the tau, of course, but there are "foriegn legions" that fight for other races. In the long run it benefits the tau, as it keeps their main auxilary in top fighting shape.

Officially they are exclusive. Read the codex big guy. That doesn't mean that they don't work for other races as well under the table. The Tau are aware of this but just look the other direction on account of their usefulness as meat shields.

Anyways I doubt Farsight would be working for Ethereals. He pretty much outright denounced them. And judging from the kind of personality GW has seemed to give him I don't think he would be dealing with them in secret. Then again it is GW.

"Officially they are exclusive. Read the codex big guy."

Take your own advice, it says that not all kindreds took the oath that Angkor Prok established, these kindreds fight for who ever is willing. Also, they even have a kroot mercenary army list that isn't viable anymore. (I think) So they definately do fight for others than the T'au.

ork stuff only works for orks so unless farsight is an ork i dont think its an ork sword

not exactly dmkjesus, im sure that some stuff the Orks make will work for others, ie hit something hard enough with a choppa and it will die no matter who does the hitting (Imperial guard may be an exception here)

this isnt an ordinary chppa though and i realy doubt the orks could make a sword that glows with mystic energies

if they want to they can

yeah but it would only work for orks

thesuperiorninja wrote:I don't think that Farsight is still working for the Ethereals secretly or whatever as mentioned earlier. Shadowsun is one of the most respected Tau leaders and is the right hand man...er woman, to the Ethereals. She even destroyed a statue of Farsight during one of her speeches against him.

Bastirous666 mentioned that the Dawn Blade could be the work of their "God". That automatically couldn't be true as the Tau don't understand the concept of there being a God, therefore they do not worship one. They cannot grasp the concept of there being something that exists but is not tangible.

Storm Lord: Yes the Kroot are mercenaries to the Tau but they are exclusive mercenaries. They have been absorbed into the Empire. Although there have been rumours of Kroot working for other races.

i never suggested that they work for a god, or even know that they do. the C'tan are not gods, they die...and gods cannot die no mater what. plain and simple. looking at the connections seen in old fluff and such make it seem as though the tau could possibly work for the dragon (unknowingly) and thus be connected in some way to the mechanicus and iron hands. other than that yes they don't worship gods, and it's possible that farsights sword is the work of a C'tan that does not command necrons

My mistake. Anyways it is possible yes that it's a C'tan blade though as has been mentioned I see it more likely being an ancient Eldar weapon/artifact.

Also the fact that the Tau have little or no Psycic presence or abilities would make them ideal Ctan racial subjects.

Also the Ctan dont exactly die... they reform after their 'moratl' bodies are breached. I know there is fluff about the Blackstone Fortresses but it is uncertain if they could really kill a Ctan or if it is just Eldar boasting

well the eldar were created as a race to destroy the C'tan and their followers so i might be true that such a thing could happen. Honestly i think it would take several at once to kill one for good

the c'tan can be killed
because im sure there were more c'tan and they were all eaten by one of the other c'tan (nightbringer or outsider i forget which one it was)

the nightbringer ate them all, and yes i agree the C'tan can probably be killed

One thing I think we're omitting is that Farsight is unnaturally old for a Tau. Aun Shi died of old age between the two codex releases, IIRC, as tau only live for about 70 years. Farsight is pushing what? 200?

Something isn't natural... not at all.

(especially considering Aun Shi got replaced by the space pope)

I thought it was theorized that Farsight has become like an eldar exarch: a follower takes the suit and the sword and the philosophy. Of course, ti could be unnatural influence.

Farsight is a great character that has tons of potential to be really neat, and I just hope GW avoids screwing it up with a cliche "possessed by blank" type story.

What if it isn't Farsight at all? What if Farsight is long dead and it's something else that has fooled the suits computer systems into thinking it's him?

No wai. I don't think he'd wear his crysis suit in bed. I personally reckon that the dawnblade is an eldar artifact, and Farsight could be serving them willingly. The Harlies sound plausible to me.

for all we know farsight could be working for the 'Cabal' (ref to legion) as it is possible they are still around, and could in some ways be following the same path as the Alpha legion, saving the Tau from collapse from without. Although I dont know what he'd be saving them from...

Y'know maybe we are just overthinking all of this. Maybe he really is just a loner Tau that has his followers.

maybe, but thats kinda boring, and look how many Imps go loner and dont get a special Character-it just doesnt seem appropriate for him somehow

he could working for the imperium his enclaves are between the empire and imperium right? maybe the imperium didnt want to lose more worlds so got farsight on there side to stop the tau

That seems plausible. Tau are known to work with other races anyways. And I'd bet anything that Farsight would do whatever to get back at the Ethereals...especially if he's gettin payed

Or maybe he's there to try and unite the Imperium and the Tau against their common enemies.

i struggle with that, the Imperium really hate all xeno forces, so it just doesnt seem plausable.

Also to quote something on the GW website:
"I have followed the myriad potential futures of the Tau with great interest. Though barely even striplings compared to us, I feel a strange protectiveness towards them. In time I believe they will exceed even our greatest feats and master the darkness within their souls."

Eldrad Ulthran,
Farseer of Ulthwé Craftworld

What if Farsight sucumbed to whatever the Darkness within their souls is?

that just sounds plain chaosy and i dont like the idea of chaos tau

Three things:

Number 1: Gods in Warhammer and Warhammer 40k can be born, and they can be killed. There are several references to this (see: Old Ones and Eldar Gods).

Number 2: C'tan are not gods. They are beings of immense vampiric energy given physical form by a dying society. They may have been worshipped as gods by a misguided people, but they are no more gods than a bloodthirster is.

Number 3: Tau have no presense in the warp, as has been stated many times. This does not negate the argument that chaos is controlling farsight. In fact, in order for a chaos god to be able to influence a tau general... they would need some sort of direct link to that individual.... a beacon that they could focus on...... like a daemon sword for instance. Then again, why do we think it is farsight controlling the sword, and not the other way around. In Khorne's Liber de Chaotica, in the armory section, it speaks of a daemonic sword which actually took over the mind of its bearer and ruled over a civilization using the bearer as a puppet..... and extending his life....

Anung Un Rama wrote:This would sell like crazy, if only someone made a kit.....

Fixed your typo.



But on the topic at hand, I have read somewhere(probably here) that Tau do have a warp presence; however it is barely a pip of light in an ocean of darkness, unlike the blazing torches that other races would be. Should a Tau come across an artifact of a highly psychic society, say, Eldar, for example, that used equipment which focused psychic energy , like witch blades and the blades of Vaul, maybe this warp presence would expand exponentially.

He did find it on a dead world, yes, but didn't the huge battle between Khaine +100 Magic Sword Guys and Nightbringer + a Bajillion Necrons occur on a dead world? Besides, the Eldar have a precedent for using swords ornamented as such( witchblades and the blades of Vaul again) while the C'tan do not. Phase blades do not count, as they are simply a human usage of the same material that Necrons always have fashioned into scythes of some sort.

But there was also a record of some chapter of Space Marines (Scythes of the Emperor I beleive) that cleared out a chaos cult off the world that Farsight got his sword from. So that seems more likely to me. (and it does say that t'au have a warp presence but its kind of like plankton, its there you just can't see it cause its so tiny.)