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Zoats were never an army for 40K. They were units for Tyranids and (briefly) Eldar pirates. Oh! That reminds me! There were armies in Book of the Astronomican. Some of them even had models! Hold on!

Rogue Trader's Entourage (this mostly used SM, IG, and Squat models, but there was a special HQ or two)

Pirates from the Claw Nebula a.k.a. Space Pirates (these had a fair number of models, 17, looks like.)

Eldar Pirates (pre-Harlequin, pre-Craftworld Eldar). You could perhaps argue that they evolved into Craftworld Eldar.

There were lists for Space Marines and Imperial Army, too, but they've obviously evolved into modern army lists.

Kid_Kyoto wrote:Ok ,ere we go!

WARHAMMER 40K
Chaos Cults
Genestealers Cults
Lost and Damned
Sensei
Slann
Zoats
Eldar Pirates
Eldar Harlequins
Adeptus Arbites (they also had a CJ army list, they are IN!)
Adeptus Mechanus
Legion of the Damned
Squats
Kroot mercs
Armored Company
Exodites
Feral Orks

FANTASY
Chaos Dwarves
Nippon (long, long ago)
Pygmies
Fimir

Seems there ought to be more for fantasy. Didn't all those storm of chaos lists get chopped off?

If you want to go far enough back, you need to add Slann to WHFB as well. Back when you could buy units of Slann. Amazons in WHFB too. I remember when you could buy Amazon Temple Guard with Bolters or Needlers. Wasn't there also a Cathay list back in the day? I do remember being able to buy Vimto Monks, but were they Nippon or Cathay? How about the Norse? Wasn't thre a list for them?

Dang, I'm getting old! There once was a day I'd've remembered all that stuff for sure!

With the pirate lists and Rogue Trader Expeditions added to the above 40k list, that's everything I can remember from 40k. Oh! Chaos Squats! There are/were figures. Were there ever actual rules for them?

Vale,

JohnS

What about:

IG Beastmen
Human Bombs
IG Assault Squads with jump packs
IG bikes and speeders
Robot maniples (sp?)

Flagg07 wrote: What about:

IG Beastmen
Human Bombs
IG Assault Squads with jump packs
IG bikes and speeders
Robot maniples (sp?)

Those were all (well, other than the maniples, IG units not armies in an of themselves...

Vale,

JohnS

Armored Company is still legal for anything outside of a GT, the list has not been withdrawn, replaced, or anything else. They just don't allow it in GT's. Outside of that it's still 100% OK for any game.

cygnnus wrote:Oh! Chaos Squats! There are/were figures. Were there ever actual rules for them?

Yeah, they got a paragraph or two in the 1st edition Squat army list. I don't recall the details off the top of my head, but I vaguely recall that they had a Ld penalty and got some stuff from the Realm of Chaos books (attributes and such).

Are Dogs of War for Fantasy still alive? I've lost track.

What about the Jokaero?

They were more of a "random encounter" than an army.

JohnHwangDD wrote:The Storm of Chaos lists have generally been incorporated into the main lists as Army Books have been updated. That is why things like Arbites shouldn't be on the 40k list. Just because you don't like how GW changed the list, that doesn't mean there isn't rules support.

Wanna lay odds on my Cult of Slaanesh?

Norsca is the only thing I'm not seeing (I mean real Norse, not chaos wannabes).

Deathwing as a full army? I know the Dark Angels 'dex has some funky rules but it's not the same.

Hey, wasn't there a Snotling army in the 6th edition Orc army book? That's not still available anymore, is it?

Here's your fun Genestealer Cult fact of the day -- with the original Genestealer Cult list, you could field a possessed Patriarch.

Originally, GCults were a type of Chaos Cult and could take certain Chaos Gifts, etc. Back then, Chaos was really a lot of fun, kids.

Generic Possessed Patriarchs, or God-Specific ones?

Anyone remember that pic of the Genestealer with the Mark of Khorne. Man that'd rule today...

BYE

LOL.

IIRC, they were exceedingly god-specific. You actually rolled to see what type of Khorne daemon (for instance) was the possessor. I believe anything from a Bloodletter to Bloodthirster was possible, and the Patriarch's stat line varied accordingly.

The thing that really (painfully) hits you when looking at the old GCult list(s) is the LatD similarity. Chaos Hounds were in there, as were Mutants, Daemons and other stuff.

At some point, the light bulb will go on at the studio, and they'll have their epiphany that there's a clear place in the game for a flexible, "counts as" army.

Flagg07 wrote: What about:
1. IG Beastmen
2. Human Bombs
3. IG Assault Squads with jump packs
4. IG bikes and speeders
5. Robot maniples (sp?)

None of these are an army list. All of them are fieldable "treat as":
1. Kroot Mercenaries / WH Arco-Flagellants / WH Repentia.
2. IG Demolitions Charge - remove the model after using the weapon
3. IG Rough Riders w/ LP&CCW
4. IG Rough Riders w/ Lasguns
5. WH Penitent Engines

widderslainte wrote:
Wanna lay odds on my Cult of Slaanesh?

There should be something in the next DE book. You won't get a full CoS list, but you'll be able to field something somewhat similar.

gorgon wrote:At some point, the light bulb will go on at the studio, and they'll have their epiphany that there's a clear place in the game for a flexible, "counts as" army.

Not if they're anything like the poster above me they won't.

BYE

Indeed we had that. It was called LATD.

H.B.M.C. wrote:Not if they're anything like the poster above me they won't.

LOL. I'm optimistic that it'll happen...someday. They'll act like it was some spontaneous, brilliant new idea of theirs and not something people have asked for.

jfrazell wrote:Indeed we had that. It was called LATD.

You betcha.

gorgon wrote:At some point, the light bulb will go on at the studio, and they'll have their epiphany that there's a clear place in the game for a flexible, "counts as" army.

That is totally false.

Given how GW has abandoned Dogs of War - a flexible "counts as" army, it is clear that this won't be done for 40k.

If I don't get my Dogs of War Army Book (which had a full-fledged standalone Army Book in 5th Edition), you can be damn sure I won't be supporting LatD (which only had a campaign list).

Do you watch BSG?

All of this has happened before, and will happen again. Of course, by the time things come back around, we're liable to be half-senile checkers players.

Liable to be? Pretty much half my group are half senile checkers players