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Hmmm.. weren't Landspeeders considered "Open-topped" in an older codex, but it didn't matter as the crew were in power-armor? If the Transport Speeder is open topped, it'll mean CC Scouts could assault from it.. so there's an option.

Also, does anybody familiar with the new SM rumors know if scouts are getting the Scout USR? If so, they can still Flank, but since the Scout USR also applies to the dedicated transport, they could perform their flanking movement aboard their transport. 24" move from the side... or a 12" move and then assault. That would be so handy that it'll probably not happen.

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Looks ill, and I like the idea of an "Air Cav Air Mobile" force (kind a thing that 40k can do right now that is cool and unique).

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No terribly impressive. Only holds 4 scouts including the driver and gunner?!? Hopefully the final product has a bit more capacity.

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H.B.M.C. wrote:I knew the good times of GW releasing everything for a Codex when it came out couldn't last.


Considering that concept just encouraged them to cut more specialised units out of some books because there wouldn't be models available for a while, if ever, I'm glad if it fades away.
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If it holds at least five and counts as open topped, and you can assault out of it...

It does get a little better!

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you can cut a landspeeder in half and put one of those metal pallete or 2 from the 40k battlefield accesory spruesin between works quite nicely from the aerial guard army or the orignal one i saw with the the blood angels army in about 1999 or somthign...

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H.B.M.C. wrote:

So, like Orks, Marines are getting a 'Second Wave' thing. I knew the good times of GW releasing everything for a Codex when it came out couldn't last.

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Still waiting on that 2nd wave of orks.
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Still waiting to know what's in that second wave of Orks. feth I wish GW wasn't so fething secretive about these things. There's no need to be!!!!

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Thats really awsome i'd be temped to do a Scout Recon Marine Assualt Army.

If they'd be Troops and there Transports.

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I just want them sooner than next year! I'd go out and buy 6 of the things tomorrow if they'd get around to releasing them.

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This looks pretty good as a replacement for final turn land speeder objective grabbing.

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H.B.M.C. wrote:Still waiting to know what's in that second wave of Orks.

Well, we've seen Zagstruck (or whatever that "Vulcha" guy with the Village People hat was called).

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Ubermosher has a good point, and it's suprising that no one has remarked upon it.

Assuming the rule for Armor 4+ or worse making this transport open-topped hasn't changed (can anyone check that?), and the Scout applies to the transport too (also needs confirmation), these little suckers could be carrying in 18" total assaults (move 12 assault 6) from the side of the board. That's nice.

Anyone who can confirm or disprove those two points would be a very helpful fellow obsessive.

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20". You forgot the 2" disembarkation move.

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thank god this is coming. I've wanted to make one of these for so long its not even funny. yes it is open topped and their in carapce armor I can see people using this as a quick way to drop a firebase and grab objectives then send the skimmer away to contest

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Yeah, you can possibly have a scout only army now.
They have the scout captain, the scouts, scout snipers (so so cool, i love 'em), and the land speeder transports.

One problem though, where the heck do the scouts sit??? In the engine bay, on the sides, or back seats???

Umm... just realised that the scout speeder has a back set of seats, and is considerably bigger than the normal land speeders.

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Bartholomew001 wrote:Yeah, you can possibly have a scout only army now.
They have the scout captain, the scouts, scout snipers (so so cool, i love 'em), and the land speeder transports.

Except aren't scouts now going Elites, to match C:BA & CA ...

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neofright wrote:People griped that it sucked that you only got new stuff when your codex came out so they are spreading it a bit more. Thanks whiny internet people for making me wait for my new crap.


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Bartholomew001 wrote:Yeah, you can possibly have a scout only army now.
They have the scout captain, the scouts, scout snipers (so so cool, i love 'em), and the land speeder transports.

Except aren't scouts now going Elites, to match C:BA & CA ...

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But they don't they have the traits system in the new codex which would allow you to take Scouts as elites???

Otherwise that special character is in the bag straight away!

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Best rumors I've heard is that Scouts are going to be Troops by default. The special character merely improves a member of a scout squad's BS.

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Same here.

I pretty sure the Scouts as elites has been debunked.

Not sure if the DA and BA codices will be "patched" to reflect this too.


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Moopy wrote:Well, I like it but I don't understand it.

Scouts infiltrate. They need a transport?


If kept in reserve, the infiltrate rule means that they can use their transport to come in on the side of the board, possibly jumping out and assaulting. It's not a bad option
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Alpharius wrote:Same here.

I pretty sure the Scouts as elites has been debunked.

Not sure if the DA and BA codices will be "patched" to reflect this too.



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Probably not, though it will be interesting to see what does change for DA and BA when the 5th edition 'patches' are released.

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well BT arn't getting one. looks like I'll be switching between codex's again.

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H.B.M.C. wrote:Still waiting to know what's in that second wave of Orks.

Well, we've seen Zagstruck (or whatever that "Vulcha" guy with the Village People hat was called).



New Nobs as well I'd think. The WIP in the picture is not one of the Black Reach ones.
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