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The modular boards are great! They are made of are made from hard plastic (like the shuttle terrain of the Battle of Macafgragagag) and two parts are held together by two clips just a few centimetres from each corner. Each piece has a grid of 5x5 cm, to make it more sturdier. A 6x4 board is quite rigid too, as I have seen it being shaken in one corner and it stayed together without bending. The boards can hang over the sides of a table and the whole will still be stable. The developers said the 6 piece table can be used safely on a 5x3 foot table. They also recommended to place newspapers between the boards if they are painted and flocked. it is released late november.
More gaming aids are coming out too, like a table painting set. A backpack which can hold one or two (small) GW army cases and a bag with wheels (like airport suitcases) for up to two big army cases. The spray gun is set for (re)release in October, with a proper hose this time.

Other news:
Orks second wave are to released soon apparently.
Plastic Grots were on display painted and all!
Plastic Nobs too, and they are much better than the starter set ones!
i have also seen were some plastic ammo runts, but I am not sure to which set they belong
But no sign of the battle wagon, though
Forge World had some amazing Ork nob bikers and a trukk based flakk wagon
Also on display was an amazing WIP warboss on bike.
More FW ork releases are planed after the third and last Siege of Vraks book (containing a.o. Grey Knights)

A lot of new Space Marines were on display, but they are already covered well the last months.

Some random new Mordheim humans were in a display.

I have also seen many warriors of chaos models, but I am not very good into fantasy chaos models, but they look very good, apart from the quite static lord on horse.

The new big hall is certainly an improvement in terms of space. But GW hadn't really done anything to make use of the space, other than spreading out the same things they have been doing for years. That was my biggest disappointment too. GW is not doing anything new on games days for years.

vodski wrote:( no ork fighta bomber or drop pod for me , bah!)

If FW didn't have the stuff in store you wanted, then you could have it send to your house for free. As is mine Ork Fighta-bomba ;-)

Blackadder wrote:Plastic Grots were on display painted and all!

WHERE ARE THE PICTURES?!

Also, someone somewhere (helpful, I know) was mentioning that they DID see the Ork Battlewagon at this Gamesday...

I think they saw an actual model, not a CAD drawing or some such.

Is that not the case?

I ended up going to one of the Seminars (friend didn't want his ticket), and though pretty pointless (too much time wasted on presentations of stuff we already know, not enough for questions) and though there wasn't any real news, there was one mildly nifty tidbit.

There won't be a combined Inquisition Codex, nor will there be a third, Alienwatch codex. However, apparently will be updated eventually, and will be centered more around Grey Knights and Sisters.

fitzeh wrote:He did come up with an interesting fluff explanation though, which is that the likes of the DA run their own forges and therefore manufacture their own equipment, inferior to that of mars. He did admit to me that he would have preferred the kit in the C:SM to have been given a different name - Mars Pattern Cyclone Missile Launchers and so on. His point was that this is basically different gear, not all CMLs or storm shields are created equal and the price you pay for not being a codex chapter and wearing hippy robes or holding dark secrets is that you don’t get all the latest toys from his nibs...

That's retarded. GW needs some Mars Pattern games designers, these ones are sub par.

The one piece of solace I hold in my heart is that my beloved blood angels are working with a WD list so should be getting a codex in the next couple of years.
The poor sap DA players will have to hang in the wind for years to come.

Saw a metal mold for the new Ork wartrakk, will be a lot bigger than the old one...
Mick

GW has alienated a large portion of their very solid consumer base. Its kind of odd too. They could have made this so easy in so many ways.

Combine all space marine chapters into one book

Errata all gear to be consistent.

They have failed twice. (and no you wont fool anyone calling a cyclone launcher a "mars pattern cyclone launcher you patronizing asshats)

But we did get some great drunken rambling from the designers regarding their justification of being dickheads. So thats a plus.

And to think, I would have spent a lot of extra money on other cools things to add to my Deathwing. You know, being a space marine player and all, who is their bread and butter apparently.

Nah. GW has shown that 5th ed isn't changing much. Gross incompetence through inconsistency.

Sure there is light at the end of the tunnel. There always is promises for such. After a decade in this dead end game where the company patronizes their consumers, I feel like a fool for thinking that GW actually might have changed for the better.

Thanks GW. I owe you one.

(Que flaming GW fanbois in rabid defense of GW's grand design plans)

As a sap DA player , is all this new stuff really good enough to have me eyeing that can of blue spray paint at the back of my workshop. I hope theres a premium in points price for all this tasty wargearto even things out a bit. Thinking about the landraider crusader though , that was to good just to sell to one chapter. Its not like GW to miss an opportunity to sell a much metal and plastic as they can , they just got to give us saps a fighting chance.

vodski wrote:As a sap DA player , is all this new stuff really good enough to have me eyeing that can of blue spray paint at the back of my workshop. I hope theres a premium in points price for all this tasty wargearto even things out a bit. Thinking about the landraider crusader though , that was to good just to sell to one chapter. Its not like GW to miss an opportunity to sell a much metal and plastic as they can , they just got to give us saps a fighting chance.

Well you could be an even bigger sap and buy yet another codex.

They hope, nay expect you to buy a new codex so you can buy all the new nifty crap that is in fact cheaper to field in the new codex.

You would be doing the extremely awesome company that is GW a favor by doing so.

How am I (we) a bigger sap for buying a codex that's better than the one I am using?

I will continue to use my DA codex for Death/Raven/Double-wing armies and the SM codex for Marine based armies.

Ozymandias, King of Kings

I must buy everything GW bring out or I'll turn into somekind of human being , with a life. And I've seen real life on the TV news , its not nice. Isn't it great how everyone slags off GW , any new rule book or codex is never as good as the last , GW rips us off with there prices blah blah. Do other war games change there rules all the time? One of the things that gets me about GW is that everything must be from them. There were no other companys at games day that might make things that we could find usefull , plasticard , scenery , custom dice general hobby aids. I remember a long time ago before white dwarf "came out" as being the mouthpiece of GW , and they used to review books , and other games/model company output. Oh happy days , I suppose there is still choice out there somewhere, outside this warm fluffy GW womb, but thats in the real world.

Ozymandias wrote:How am I (we) a bigger sap for buying a codex that's better than the one I am using?

I will continue to use my DA codex for Death/Raven/Double-wing armies and the SM codex for Marine based armies.

Ozymandias, King of Kings

It makes you a bigger sap because they tell you things like "Its mars pattern" instead of just fixing the issues for a product you already paid for.

Simple as that.

Has anyone at GD UK seen the pics of the (new?) turrets for imperial vehicles?

I'm in the camp of I'd rather have a new codex than a bunch of FAQ's to carry around, I did that already in 3rd ed.

Frankly, I was going to buy the new SM dex anyway (cause I've been buying every new codex that comes out) so it's not like I'm spending money I wouldn't have otherwise. That may just be me though.

I would still like to see either a return to the "Use C: SM with the following changes..." or simply see DA/BA get rolled into the SM dex. BT/SW are wierd enough that they can get their own codex but I'd be happy using a Terminator Captain to take Termies as troops and a bike captain to get bikes as troops (though Sammael is a cool character). Azrael, Interrogator-Chaplains, etc can all be made using the SM codex.

Ozymandias, King of Kings

By the way I went with someone who plays Tau, he was a bit miffed that the tau presence was non existent. No one seemed to be playing them and no new stuff, hardly any old stuff for sale. He offered to take everyone on in battle "one at a time or all at once" ,( quietly, from the back of the stands). The rest of us concluded the tau are a finished non-existant race , and therefore since his race was nonexistant we spent the rest of the day ignoring him.

There was a Plasma Cannon-y looking turret for a Russ. I'd be impressed if a new Russ kit contained all the different turret types.

Impressed and annoyed, as I already own 4 resin Vanquisher turrets, 3 metal Exterminators turrets, 1 resin Annihilator turret, 1 resin Executioner turret and 6 metal Demolisher turrets on top of all the regular Russes.


And yeah, Hellfury, GW's attempt at explaining why weapons, equipment and vehicles with the same names are different in the fluff is pathetic and screams of utterly laziness and indifference, but are you actually surprised?

I mean, you said it yourself:

They hope, nay expect you to buy a new codex so you can buy all the new nifty crap that is in fact cheaper to field in the new codex.

We've long since known that New Models = New Rules was a design mantra for the dev team. It's only with the Marine Codex that they've taken it to a new level, making you not just change models within the army (ie. regular to Assault Terminators) but actually change betwee armies (ie. no Marines to Marines).

It's New Models = New Rules in its most pure form, so don't for a second act like this is anything new. We've just not seen it on such a scale before.

BYE

Funny that Jervis makes a big deal about how new players (like his son) may get confused about which weapons are which, so he puts all these diagrams in the books.

But surely new players would be more easily confused as to why the Blue Marines equipment does different things than the Green Marines equipment, despite having the exact same name?

H.B.M.C. wrote:...so don't for a second act like this is anything new. We've just not seen it on such a scale before.

Nope nothing new. Neither the attitude from GW nor towards it. But the scale IS what I am referring to.

Like my imaginary GF says: "Its just so....BIG!"

Chad Warden wrote:Funny that Jervis makes a big deal about how new players (like his son) may get confused about which weapons are which, so he puts all these diagrams in the books.

But surely new players would be more easily confused as to why the Blue Marines equipment does different things than the Green Marines equipment, despite having the exact same name?

I've said it before, and I'll repeat it once again.

This isn't a case of the left hand not knowing what the right hand is doing, this is a case of the left hand not knowing that the right hand even exists. And the left hand is hamfisted.

Hooray for mixed metephors.

BYE

ChrisAsmadi wrote:I ended up going to one of the Seminars (friend didn't want his ticket), and though pretty pointless (too much time wasted on presentations of stuff we already know, not enough for questions) and though there wasn't any real news, there was one mildly nifty tidbit.

There won't be a combined Inquisition Codex, nor will there be a third, Alienwatch codex. However, apparently will be updated eventually, and will be centered more around Grey Knights and Sisters.

If this is true, than this is piss poor news indeed.

It really isn't that hard to put together a combined Inquisition Codex covering ALL 3 branches, is it?

No, it isn't!

Alpharius wrote:It really isn't that hard to put together a combined Inquisition Codex covering ALL 3 branches, is it?

No, it isn't!

It's easier than putting together an FAQ for DA/BA players it seems.

BYE

Well, that's hard work.

A combined =I= Codex is easy beans compared to that!

Hellfury wrote:Like my imaginary GF says: "Its just so....BIG!"

That's not what she told me about you.

Even my imaginary GF cheat on me.

Thats the last time I will allow Jennifer Connolly into my fantasies...

...I lie. I cant quite her.

A couple of hours on the computer, doing a rewrite with cut and paste entries to glue in over your DA codex, whilst they await the next printing of Codex DA.
(They did it for dark elves a few years ago and it went down a treat)

Blood Angels- 1 hour fixing the PDF

Suddenly all the wargear descriptions are current, the whining is gone and lame excuses are no longer needed.

I'm against BA and DA being in the SM codex.

SM = regular marines (Average in all aspects)
SW = Viking marines (great in all styles)
BT = crusading marines (best at combat)
DA = monastic marines with specialist companies (best termies and bikes)
BA = Barely contained psycopath marines (now with a long awaited jump pack focus)

Hellfury wrote:Even my imaginary GF cheat on me.

Thats the last time I will allow Jennifer Connolly into my fantasies...

...I lie. I cant quite her.

Rocketeer Jennifer Connolly, or A Beautiful Mind Jennifer Connolly?

From a fluff standpoint, the explanation for DA/BA discrepancies is fairly....nope, even I couldn't lipstick that pig.

Jester wrote:From a fluff standpoint, the explanation for DA/BA discrepancies is fairly....nope, even I couldn't lipstick that pig.

Well I had you down as a racist Jester, but never a sexist. I am shocked.


BYE

You can bet your arse I'll be buying that modular table. That thing looks freekin' sweet.

H.B.M.C. wrote:

Jester wrote:From a fluff standpoint, the explanation for DA/BA discrepancies is fairly....nope, even I couldn't lipstick that pig.

Well I had you down as a racist Jester, but never a sexist. I am shocked.


BYE

Oh my! Lipstick that ork then?

M.