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![[Post New]](/dakkaforum/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif) 2009/07/04 19:49:05
Subject: The Spear of Sicarius
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Contagious Dreadnought of Nurgle
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Man, that is going to be his only gift for the next two years. I mean, you can buy a computer for that much. Christ.
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So, you see, there was this violence. They chopped till they dropped and everyone was the wiser. The crazy children were yelling though, no need for that! They should have listened, the poor chopped children. Ah, well, live and love.. and sex. Sex is the most important meal of the day. WAIT! We almost forgot the more chopping. It's an elaborate and decorated crime file. They almost forgot who I was then BAM! just like a piece of stuff I was there again, with the chopping. All that and a barrel of stuff. Ah, the joys of insanity. Nothing will ever have to make sense again.
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![[Post New]](/dakkaforum/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif) 2009/07/04 20:47:12
Subject: The Spear of Sicarius
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Platuan4th wrote:Delephont wrote:I'm sure some newb will buy this......my guess is that GW is counting on that as well.
Either that or they expect Mommy and Daddy will buy it for Little Timmy for his Birthday.
And then we all know what happens on the day of delivery ...
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![[Post New]](/dakkaforum/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif) 2009/07/04 21:36:46
Subject: The Spear of Sicarius
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Just the name is delightfully grimdark: "The Spear of the Dagger".
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![[Post New]](/dakkaforum/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif) 2009/07/04 21:42:38
Subject: Re:The Spear of Sicarius
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BrookM wrote:Direct-Only deals such as these come in a big cardboard box with no box art, just look at most of the Apocalypse Direct-Only deals they had then. Only a few got an official box.
Apropos of nothing, the GW Planetstrike Launch Bundle came in a little printed colour box (here in Oz at least) - which I thought was nice.
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![[Post New]](/dakkaforum/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif) 2009/07/04 21:43:10
Subject: The Spear of Sicarius
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It must be a new meme. Wait, but aren't spears just daggers on sticks?
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So, you see, there was this violence. They chopped till they dropped and everyone was the wiser. The crazy children were yelling though, no need for that! They should have listened, the poor chopped children. Ah, well, live and love.. and sex. Sex is the most important meal of the day. WAIT! We almost forgot the more chopping. It's an elaborate and decorated crime file. They almost forgot who I was then BAM! just like a piece of stuff I was there again, with the chopping. All that and a barrel of stuff. Ah, the joys of insanity. Nothing will ever have to make sense again.
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![[Post New]](/dakkaforum/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif) 2009/07/05 01:30:04
Subject: The Spear of Sicarius
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Unix wrote:You all are a bunch of cynics. Sure it doesn't save you any money but it spares you the time and frustration of having to navigate GW's website to purchase everything individually.
I'm going to go right ahead and assume that this is an attempt at ironic humour, right?
Otherwise (or regardless, really), I'll repeat myself:
Do not buy this bundle from GW. Buy it elsewhere.
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![[Post New]](/dakkaforum/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif) 2009/07/05 02:33:16
Subject: The Spear of Sicarius
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Jeez just put it in your sig already...
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![[Post New]](/dakkaforum/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif) 2009/07/05 03:21:02
Subject: The Spear of Sicarius
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H.B.M.C. wrote:Only a complete mug would buy that deal... well... buy it from GW that is. Ordering the everything in that bundle from Maelstrom gets you everything there for US$859.25.
That's a saving of US$207.05.
Better yet, consider what the shipping costs would be, even domestic shipping, on such a large amount of boxes? According to the GWUS site, it's a further $90. Unlike with this direct only GW bundle, ordering this from Maelstrom yields free shipping.
Don't be a moron. Do not order this from GW.
The box set is still stupid.
GW should be offering a discount on it. PERIOD.
There is NO incentive to spend a large sum of money on this product because, again, it offers NO savings.
Imagine if GW was giving a discount on this box set - say even something as low as a 10-15% savings compared to buying everything individually.
Now imagine if Maelstrom knocked a further 20% off GW's reduced price.
Then we would actually be talking about something worth buying.
Unix wrote:You all are a bunch of cynics. Sure it doesn't save you any money but it spares you the time and frustration of having to navigate GW's website to purchase everything individually.
Think about it to buy everything separately you would have to go to 8 different product pages, figure out how many of each you need to order and then put in the right amount to order for each product. That's far too complicated and involved, especially for a hobby as easy and not time consuming as this one.
I'm sorry, but this argument holds no weight.
You get to save a little bit of time on surfing Games Workshop's website?
Really, the "savings" we get is a little time?
Ultimately I think it's too bad GW has put up such a high dollar item, when in the past their previous (more expensive) box sets have always come at a reduced price as an incentive to get the customer to put forth a large sum of money. Why break from this practice now, especially when it's a practice they are still currently doing (see: Battleforce Boxes.)
The only reason to buy this Box set is if you want this exact build for Apoc and Planetstrike.
I really don't get it. Battleforces are at reduced prices and all those awesome Apoc formations were at reduced prices - why not this package?
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Otherwise (or regardless, really), I'll repeat myself:
Do not buy this bundle from GW. Buy it elsewhere.
Don't buy it at all.
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![[Post New]](/dakkaforum/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif) 2009/07/05 03:27:35
Subject: The Spear of Sicarius
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Lagduf wrote:
I really don't get it. Battleforces are at reduced prices and all those awesome Apoc formations were at reduced prices - why not this package?
This is only a guess but , maybe it has something to do with the studio taking time to line them up for group shot.
while apoc formations are photo shopped.
That sounded so baka...
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![[Post New]](/dakkaforum/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif) 2009/07/05 04:46:16
Subject: The Spear of Sicarius
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More likely this won't be a splash release like the Apocalypse formations were.
This would be easy to maintain as a regular deal, hence the price(the splash releases were all fairly good deals, from what I remember, and frankly I want them back and updated. I need me a Sentinel Company, and buying them one box at a time versus a 'deal' is quite quite annoying.)
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![[Post New]](/dakkaforum/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif) 2009/07/05 05:26:25
Subject: The Spear of Sicarius
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This force is very good for a Planetstrike game.
Planetstrike Rules say any unit that has the deepstrike rule in their unit profile CAN assault the turn they come in.
Now GW makes these cool looking packages and then FAILS to offer any reason to buy it. Dummies!
On side note....I got my Bastions and Landing Pads the other day. I'm impressed.
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![[Post New]](/dakkaforum/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif) 2009/07/05 07:18:55
Subject: The Spear of Sicarius
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So how much of a discount do you guys want before you'll buy it? 10%, 20%, 50%? And you'd probably still only buy it from an online retailer. They have no incentive either. And not everybody wants to collect an army in installments. Frankly, to me that's a pain. Nickle and dime yourself to death.
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![[Post New]](/dakkaforum/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif) 2009/07/05 07:42:29
Subject: The Spear of Sicarius
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I get my stuff from my FLGS. So case closed in that area.
GW should offer a 10% discount as incentive to people to purchase. Otherwise, players will go elsewhere to get it.
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![[Post New]](/dakkaforum/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif) 2009/07/05 08:13:51
Subject: The Spear of Sicarius
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Sarge wrote:So how much of a discount do you guys want before you'll buy it? 10%, 20%, 50%? And you'd probably still only buy it from an online retailer. They have no incentive either.
Yes... we're so bad for wanting to pay less money... I think... umm... I'm failing to see the logic behind your argument here. Is there any?
Sarge wrote:And not everybody wants to collect an army in installments. Frankly, to me that's a pain. Nickle and dime yourself to death.
Umm... what?
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![[Post New]](/dakkaforum/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif) 2009/07/05 08:15:04
Subject: The Spear of Sicarius
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I don't think you are supposed to understand it HBMC.
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![[Post New]](/dakkaforum/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif) 2009/07/05 08:23:17
Subject: Re:The Spear of Sicarius
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I just wanted to add that anyone stupid enough to buy this from GW can always call us next to fit the whole mess in a brand new P.A.C.K. 1520. You would still have room for some landraiders and rhinos. LOL
Just a shameless plug.
But really who would buy this??????
It makes no sense.
It's like saying I'll will not buy those pair of shoes for $50.00 but I'll buy 2 pair for $100.00.
GW has totally lost their minds. It just goes to show what kind of grip they have on all of us. Any company dumb enough to put something like this out in any other industry would go bankrupt in months. GW just keeps on ticking.
Oh well, off to my local game store to pick up my 3rd idiotic Bastion that I'll use 3 times this year for 3 whole games of planet strike.
Go GW!!!! :(
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![[Post New]](/dakkaforum/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif) 2009/07/05 08:23:35
Subject: The Spear of Sicarius
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LunaHound wrote:

The sad thing is lunahound i can see this actually happening .
<then we have one less spear of sicarius for us serious gamers.>
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![[Post New]](/dakkaforum/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif) 2009/07/05 08:45:44
Subject: The Spear of Sicarius
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Lead-Footed Trukkboy Driver
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H.B.M.C. wrote:Sarge wrote:So how much of a discount do you guys want before you'll buy it? 10%, 20%, 50%? And you'd probably still only buy it from an online retailer. They have no incentive either.
Yes... we're so bad for wanting to pay less money... I think... umm... I'm failing to see the logic behind your argument here. Is there any?
Sarge wrote:And not everybody wants to collect an army in installments. Frankly, to me that's a pain. Nickle and dime yourself to death.
Umm... what?
LOL
I think someone is bad at humor or simply has no idea what the idiom "nickel and dime" means.
I'm guessing the latter.
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![[Post New]](/dakkaforum/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif) 2009/07/05 08:59:11
Subject: The Spear of Sicarius
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Well, either H.B.M.C is bad at "humour"....or (more likely) the joke just wasn't funny.
Back on point. I wonder if second tier retailers will even stock this item, my guess is, places like Maelstrom, etc won't even but it in (unless some mug actually requests it)
I can see this set being a complete flop. In addition, I had a look at the Planet Strike game on GW website, and their advertising blurb....and its probably just me, but what a pointless game.....I mean, it adds nothing to the current WH40K experience.....Isn't every game of WH40K a "Planet Strike" anyway?!? It seems to me that this game simply changes a few of the main mechanics of the game, but once the attacking force has landed, doesn't it then just degenerate back to a standard WH40K game??
Apocolypse I could understand, but this.....leaves me confused!
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![[Post New]](/dakkaforum/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif) 2009/07/05 13:15:00
Subject: The Spear of Sicarius
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With the exception of the drop pods, I can already field this army. Wish there was a cop around to tell me, "Move along. Nothing to see here."
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![[Post New]](/dakkaforum/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif) 2009/07/05 17:40:14
Subject: The Spear of Sicarius
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The best route to go is Combat Squad Dev Squad that gives you what you need! I think????
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![[Post New]](/dakkaforum/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif) 2009/07/05 23:08:55
Subject: The Spear of Sicarius
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Old Man Ultramarine wrote:This force is very good for a Planetstrike game.
Planetstrike Rules say any unit that has the deepstrike rule in their unit profile CAN assault the turn they come in.
Now GW makes these cool looking packages and then FAILS to offer any reason to buy it. Dummies!
On side note....I got my Bastions and Landing Pads the other day. I'm impressed.
It specifically rules out units in Drop Pods being able to assault.
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![[Post New]](/dakkaforum/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif) 2009/07/05 23:37:24
Subject: Re:The Spear of Sicarius
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Maybe GW is selling this so that they can redo their website and save everybody time!!
Once again this seems typical GW practice. 2 years ago I could buy Land Raider Crusaders for $50.00 (US). Now, after the economy has fallen I can buy one for 57.00.
GW... make things cheaper???? At GW, they probably thought keeping the price the same was such a nice thing.
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![[Post New]](/dakkaforum/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif) 2009/07/05 23:48:54
Subject: The Spear of Sicarius
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The thing is if the box doesn't sell at all or very well, GW doesn't lose any money. They're charging full retail, so they have nothing to lose. Generally only hardcore gamers with more money than sense buy giant boxes like these. The FW Manta and Deathwing box were both like this and only the people I ever saw buying those were the hardcore.
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![[Post New]](/dakkaforum/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif) 2009/07/05 23:56:47
Subject: The Spear of Sicarius
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Unix wrote:Think about it to buy everything separately you would have to go to 8 different product pages, figure out how many of each you need to order and then put in the right amount to order for each product. That's far too complicated and involved, especially for a hobby as easy and not time consuming as this one.
Yeah, all you guys are just being ungrateful. You should be thankful that GW is offering you this great deal all in one box! It's the convenience factor guys, seriously!. Personally I am thankful to GW every day because they are trying to make things more convenient for us!
Personally, this is such a convenient package deal, I wouldn't mind paying 10% more just because it's so convenient! You're just lucky that GW provides this convenient deal at no extra charge!
That's what I love about GW. They throw in extra convenience for free!
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![[Post New]](/dakkaforum/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif) 2009/07/06 03:07:09
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This does have to be the dumbest idea they have ever came up with. I think the only real people that will buy it will be ritch and dumb people coming straight into the hobby.
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![[Post New]](/dakkaforum/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif) 2009/07/06 03:18:09
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EzeKK wrote:This does have to be the dumbest idea they have ever came up with. I think the only real people that will buy it will be ritch and dumb people coming straight into the hobby.
Which seems to be the cool trend GW is going by the past few years now.
Constantly ignoring game vet's wants to lure in new players.
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![[Post New]](/dakkaforum/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif) 2009/07/06 03:18:50
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EzeKK wrote:This does have to be the dumbest idea they have ever came up with. I think the only real people that will buy it will be ritch and dumb people coming straight into the hobby.
Might want to proofread your post there champ before you go accusing other people of being dumb.
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![[Post New]](/dakkaforum/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif) 2009/07/06 05:58:28
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Delephont wrote:Well, either H.B.M.C is bad at "humour"....or (more likely) the joke just wasn't funny.
Back on point. I wonder if second tier retailers will even stock this item, my guess is, places like Maelstrom, etc won't even but it in (unless some mug actually requests it)
I can see this set being a complete flop. In addition, I had a look at the Planet Strike game on GW website, and their advertising blurb....and its probably just me, but what a pointless game.....I mean, it adds nothing to the current WH40K experience.....Isn't every game of WH40K a "Planet Strike" anyway?!? It seems to me that this game simply changes a few of the main mechanics of the game, but once the attacking force has landed, doesn't it then just degenerate back to a standard WH40K game??
Apocolypse I could understand, but this.....leaves me confused!
Uh, no - go buy or borrow the Planetstrike book and read the missions and strategems. I think it's going to be really fun.
Planetstrike isn't "attacker deep strikes" and then normal 40K objectives. I think the tone of the game will be quite different.
I'm really getting the whole attacker vs defender vibe from the book and the missions as opposed to regular 40k which is simply nothing more than a pitched battle between equivalent forces on fairly non-advantageous terrain.
Hordini wrote:Unix wrote:Think about it to buy everything separately you would have to go to 8 different product pages, figure out how many of each you need to order and then put in the right amount to order for each product. That's far too complicated and involved, especially for a hobby as easy and not time consuming as this one.
Yeah, all you guys are just being ungrateful. You should be thankful that GW is offering you this great deal all in one box! It's the convenience factor guys, seriously!. Personally I am thankful to GW every day because they are trying to make things more convenient for us!
Personally, this is such a convenient package deal, I wouldn't mind paying 10% more just because it's so convenient! You're just lucky that GW provides this convenient deal at no extra charge!
That's what I love about GW. They throw in extra convenience for free!
LOL.
Hordini wins the thread!
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![[Post New]](/dakkaforum/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif) 2009/07/06 06:00:35
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Lagduf wrote:I'm really getting the whole attacker vs defender vibe from the book...
Really? What gave it away?
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