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ImperialTard wrote:
BIBBI wrote: I can do better and I have no formal training.


Oh? Have you fought many battles as a conscripted bowman? Sniped many a moving object hidden behind a wall, trembling with the thought that your mortal life was in danger?

Not to tease you, nor do I disagree with you.


And what if I have... the chaos realms are a strange place my friend

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BIBBI wrote:And what if I have... the chaos realms are a strange place my friend


Ah! Then you ought to take a trip through the Warp to GW HQ and make our case!

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ImperialTard wrote:
BIBBI wrote: I can do better and I have no formal training.


Oh? Have you fought many battles as a conscripted bowman? Sniped many a moving object hidden behind a wall, trembling with the thought that your mortal life was in danger?

Not to tease you, nor do I disagree with you.


and if I have? I play dagorhir

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Ok, besides the cute fluffy answers, I don't care who you are, but those bowmen with formal training WILL best you.

Archery is more than just a fantasy element. It's a sport nowadays, with many talented and professional bowmen who I can easily assure you can out shoot you.

Besides, when the hell did Chaos approve of bows?

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that is exactly my point, with the current rules those trained soldiers don't out shoot me.

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Oooh.

Whoopsies.

My bad...

Anywhoo, I'd also like to see shooty cavalry get some kind of bonus.

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Cryonicleech wrote:Oooh.

Whoopsies.

My bad...

Anywhoo, I'd also like to see shooty cavalry get some kind of bonus.



are you insane? Fast cavalry is amazing already. I mean... they Can march and shoot! WHAT ELSE DO YOU WANT MAN?!

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Well, the only fast cav that shoot relatively well are Pistoliers and Outriders.

Ahh, but that's just me wishlisting.

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BIBBI wrote:
ImperialTard wrote:
BIBBI wrote: I can do better and I have no formal training.


Oh? Have you fought many battles as a conscripted bowman? Sniped many a moving object hidden behind a wall, trembling with the thought that your mortal life was in danger?

Not to tease you, nor do I disagree with you.


and if I have? I play dagorhir


BIBBI wrote:
ImperialTard wrote:
BIBBI wrote: I can do better and I have no formal training.


Oh? Have you fought many battles as a conscripted bowman? Sniped many a moving object hidden behind a wall, trembling with the thought that your mortal life was in danger?

Not to tease you, nor do I disagree with you.


And what if I have... the chaos realms are a strange place my friend


I am an idiot

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Red_Lives wrote:
Cryonicleech wrote:Oooh.

Whoopsies.

My bad...

Anywhoo, I'd also like to see shooty cavalry get some kind of bonus.



are you insane? Fast cavalry is amazing already. I mean... they Can march and shoot! WHAT ELSE DO YOU WANT MAN?!


I want my fast cavalry to be able to march, darn tomb kings.

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Well thats Kings. As it stands now, fast cav is amazing. They can march shoot and get a free reform in the same turn!

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I would say they were pretty even. if you compare the fluff you would see what I mean

in fantasy where everyone is wielding Blackpowder weapons or Bows and arrows which are easily affected by wind and the ofg of war from black powder it is harder to hit your target and as magic missiles hit automatically you can't say magic is used aswell.

in 40k where they're using more modern weapons 3 factors come into play.

1. the fight is considered up close in most games and stories so your opponent isn't that far that you can't see them

2. Most weapons in 40k are rapid fire so there is more bullets and laser fire flying around that missing is a hard thing to do

3. this is the future where even the basic lasgun has a built in sight

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The only thing I dislike in WHFB shooting is that Bows cannot fire in two ranks,


It is just as well they didn't play by these rules at Agincourt

The problem seems to an inexperienced player such as myself that you end up stringing out the archers.
This has two effects. Firstly, making mobilty of nearby units more of a problem.
Secondly, it lessens the volley's impact, as for example the flanks are unable to be effective as they become out of range of the target.

hope that makes sense and apologies if i have misunderstood the rules

 
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