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Agamemnon2 wrote:

outriderhobbies wrote:First off, I do know Romeo Filip. I have known him for a couple of years now. It hasn't been fun. In fact to the point that an injunction against harrassment has been placed on him. I wonder what the judge will think of the post he made earlier.

So you decided to casually make a thread of legal action against a poster on this site? Classy, real classy, Mr. Wade. You know, I'm beginning to think that there's no innocent party in this little Harlequinade. I'll stick with buying my foam off KR, whose proprietors have never felt the need to insult anyone on a public forum.

Did either of you business geniuses ever consider how petulant, how shrill and how blunderingly incompetent partaking in this farce makes you look? What you don't get in businesses run by professionals is this kind of petty drama. Nobody at Volkswagen has ever gone on public record to say, "By the way, Honda is crap."

Agamemnon2,

So you know, that was not a casual threat of legal action. When Mr Filip discovered that I was going to compete with him he confronted me. During that confrontation, he issued physical threats against me at two different times. One time in a store full of witnesses. In fact after I filed the injunction, Mr Filip challenged it in court. He lost the case. In fact he did not even challenge the statements used to file the injunction in the first place. The judge sided with me, and the injunction remains in force to this day.

Bryan Wade
Outrider Hobbies

Looked into KR. Interesting, but doesn't help me out much. I'm trying ot get out of having to carry some of my armies to the store in a stupid number of boxes. My IG currently runs 5 vehicles and about 220 squad bodies. I'm looking to get all that into one box, and that limits my flexibility somewhat.

Foam wars.

Chrispy wrote:Foam wars.

Indeed.

EVERYONE needs to tread carefully here, including the two primary parties involved in this 'dispute'.

By all means, compare products, prices, etc.

Do NOT engage in Foam Wars of Flame here on Dakka.

DO follow all the rules of Dakka Dakka.

Personally i won't be buying from either of these chaps, mostly cause they're both in the states and the postage costs are just prehibitive, i'll simply be creating my own foam inserts and already have an idea about how to keep the card pieces so they're not rubbing against each other or sliding around i'll be doing this for me i won't be selling on the internet but i will be providing a description of how i did it for free because if someone else wants to use that idea for their own box then i'm game.
pete

I just wanted to announce my own foam company. The Solid State Foam Company. How this works is that you send me your miniatures and I encase them all in a solid block of foam. You won't be able to take them out, but imagine how safe they will be without a millimeter of movement. This is as custom-fitting as you can get!

Also, as the owner of the Solid State Foam Company, I'd like to mention that all other foam companies are thieves and vagabonds. And I'm sure that they don't pay taxes or some such.

Order today!

Sometimes humor is called for to help out a particularly tense situation.

I'm not sure that this is one of those times.

Chrispy wrote:I just wanted to announce my own foam company. The Solid State Foam Company. How this works is that you send me your miniatures and I encase them all in a solid block of foam. You won't be able to take them out, but imagine how safe they will be without a millimeter of movement. This is as custom-fitting as you can get!

Also, as the owner of the Solid State Foam Company, I'd like to mention that all other foam companies are thieves and vagabonds. And I'm sure that they don't pay taxes or some such.

Order today!

Lately, this seems the best option for my models. I've been working afternoons and evenings, thereby eliminating almost every chance to play a game anyways.


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outriderhobbies wrote:So you know, that was not a casual threat of legal action. When Mr Filip discovered that I was going to compete with him he confronted me. During that confrontation, he issued physical threats against me at two different times. One time in a store full of witnesses. In fact after I filed the injunction, Mr Filip challenged it in court. He lost the case. In fact he did not even challenge the statements used to file the injunction in the first place. The judge sided with me, and the injunction remains in force to this day.

Doesn't matter. That you chose to air out the issue on this forum in such a crass manner speaks volumes, especially the smug "Oh, I wonder what a judge would say" wording you chose.

Chrispy wrote:
Also, as the owner of the Solid State Foam Company, I'd like to mention that all other foam companies are thieves and vagabonds. And I'm sure that they don't pay taxes or some such. Order today!

outriderhobbies wrote:Automatically Appended Next Post:
There are still 10 samples available. If you have already PMed me, I have your information and will be sending it out soon.

Thanks =)

The Kaiser cases look like the Cadillac of cases, but I would need too many of them to haul or store my army.
The Battlefoam and Sabol systems both look really good, but I like the flexibility of the Sabol's pick and pluck better than figuring out what thing will fit where, and the Battlefoam is just too costly.
I sent a PM to see if I could get my free tray to check out and compare to my Sabol trays.

Romeo Filip's profanity, aggression, and business prectices are well established. Check the link. This behavior isnt new.

http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news?slug=jp-maplecontroversy011809&prov=yhoo&type=lgns

Ouch!

Wow, I didn't know Romeo started in the bat business. I wonder if that is how he acquired his foam cutting machinery?

http://www.diablobats.com/about_ash_maple_bats.html

Mez

He said in a D6G podcast episode that his bat company is EXACTLY where he got the capitol equipment for Battlefoam.


Giant cutting lasers engraving bats or foam pew pew.

I wonder what the next place of refuge will be, if this pattern continues?

Argentina. I hear they been letting anyone into that place since the '40s

Chrispy wrote:He said in a D6G podcast episode that his bat company is EXACTLY where he got the capitol equipment for Battlefoam. Giant cutting lasers engraving bats or foam pew pew.

Very interesting - didn't know that. I just found the letter that Romeo sent to the Major League Baseball's Roy Krasik back in January. I can't post it hear because of the profanity, but link is below.

You got to respect Romeo for his fire and passion.

http://rumorsontheinternets.org/2009/01/21/roti-exclusive-maple-bat-man-strikes-back/

Mezmaron wrote:You got to respect Romeo for his fire and passion.

http://rumorsontheinternets.org/2009/01/21/roti-exclusive-maple-bat-man-strikes-back/

It makes for staggeringly unprofessional business communication, though.

Wow!

Oouff! Talk about biting the hand that feeds you! That was some letter. As we say in our office never send a letter [or email] angry, Its never something that can't wait a day and the new perspective it will bring.

That said Diablo bats would seem to be getting a raw deal there, but it does seem like Romeo was too hasty on the foam retort though.

Having said that have you ever considered turning your hand to willow and knocking out some bats like a proper game like cricket?

More competition the better for us customers although this has shed some light on what I originally thought as a super-friendly company in Battlefoam; loved those guys because they sponsor all the popular tabletop podcasts. However don't like doing business with Mark Cuban type of personalities.

Despite this thread, I think that it's best to let a company stand on the merits of products. More competition is better for the consumers.

With that said, Solid State Foam. It's the Future of Foam (tm).

As a consumer, I would have to stand with the company that provides me the best value for my dollar. This is usually a cross-reference of customer service, quality, and cost. I've done business with Romeo in the past, and have never been treated liwith harshness or profanity; or I would seriously re-consider doing future business with him. Well, a little profanity wouldn't scare me off; anyone whos seen one of my diatribes knows I can be less than polite and endearing to say the least.

Most companies involved in business to business transactions that I have dealt with in the past tend to get a little touchy, and feel that if they aren't getting their donkey-caves swabbed with someone's tongue then they don't want to do business with them. I see it, I understand it; I just don't expect that myself. People wanna get harsh with me; I don't care if they can get the job done to spec on time for price. Period. I don't work with nice people, they don't all hug each other in the mornings and perform team building exercises on the weekends. Such is life sometimes, and in the case of my job I actually like it.

edited for spelling and inserting appropriate negatives.

Osbad wrote:
As I understand it, he only really sells direct. He hasn't managed to partner up with a non-US distributor. This makes his non-US shipping costs very high, and prices him out of much of the non-US market. I can only speculate at the reasons, but I suspect he is either unable or unwilling to offer distributors sufficient margin to make it worth their while.

My FLGS looked into ordering some cases from E-figures but the Battlefoam cases they had were all filled with pluck and pull foam. There were no options to order any of the precut foam (ie marine, eldar, etc). Then my flgs said there was some kind of falling out between E-Figures and Battlefoam so that they (flgs) can no longer order BF products from their distributor.

This was dissapointing as I wanted to get some foam without paying the high shipping costs :(

notprop wrote:Having said that have you ever considered turning your hand to willow and knocking out some bats like a proper game like cricket?

The day cricket becomes a multi-billion dollar industry I think he might ;-)

And people say there's no such thing as bad publicity...

What's an E-figures?

grizgrin wrote:What's an E-figures?

http://www.e-figures.com/

US gaming distributor