New beastman - is it me or have they been hit with an ugly stick. Repeatedly. With a really big one.

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**Mick A**

aerethan wrote:The price per unit changed mostly when Ogre Kingdoms was released. $40+ for 3 plastic 40mm based models is steep.

The true nature of their pricing being based around how many of a product a single army would use was shown when the new plastic Greatswords were released. $41 for 10 plastic greatswords is almost twice the cost of 10 core infantry. I can see a small price difference, but making a unit of 25 greatswords cost essentially $123(assuming you don't Ebay or trade for the last 5 models) makes them more costly than similar units that are still metal. A unit of 20 Black Guard costs around $81, and the same for plastic greatswords is $82.

What GW failed to realize here was that the greatswords kit offered a chance to add in bitz and new torsos and legs that most Empire players would want to more customize their models. So if the kit was only $25 many would buy them even after completing their unit if only to mod characters and unit champions out of them.

Now keep in mind the scuplts for greatswords are actually decent. Why they went with the same pricing strategy for such tragic models is beyond me.

That sounds like a feasable explanation except that the Plastic Skaven units mess it up. The Stormvermin set is in the same price range as the Greatswords and the Bestigors and yes you will only use a limited amount per game but why then is the Plaguemonks set in the same price range as normal core choices? You will only use a limited amount of those as well. It boils down to GW charging what they think people will pay for a unit that they will need in their army to have a chance of winning.

Malfred- it was just one of the new plastic ones. I agree the Doombull looks great (but not £25 great...).

Mick

**Jagdcarcajou**

Newish-long-time-lurker-used-to-be-occasional-poster here.

I really, really like the Beastmen. So much so that I am coming back to Warhammer to play them. The Razorgor is stupidly bad, but everything else is great. The Gors, Ungors, Bestigors all look better than previous models. And I for one dig the minotaurs. The roid-rage, wall of meat and horns look is fantastic. The legs are a bit wonky, but passable. Just wish there was an add-on "torso" sprue that could be bought at say a third of the price of the whole kit, to take advantage of all the wasted plastic.

**Llamahead**

I love the new minotaur models well the Scibor ones anyway

http://www.sciborminiatures.com/en_,monstrous_news.php?id=867#i/2010/big/minotaurs_01.jpg
Actually the new ones would be alright just not at £27.......
Bestigor aren't priced at game effectiveness as their not that good.......
I quite like the Gor Ungor and Bestigor models I don't like their price however I got the Herds when I could.
The Razorgor means I'll probably be buying either Avatars of War or Heresies Hell Hounds......

**Blokus**

I think all the models they released look good. I especially enjoy the disproportions and silliness of the razorgor, but then I enjoy crazy exaggerated models.

**Sarrazon**

I'm gonna get hit for this, but I like the Razorgor. It's a hilarious model that looks like it would be really fun to paint. I don't, however, look as a serious model. I don't look at as something to be used in a Beasts of Chaos army, or in any GW army for that matter. It's a fun model (Pumba on crack, how can you NOT love it?), not a GW model. If another company had put that out, with no game to go along with it, I'm sure I wouldn't be the only one feeling this way.

On the other hand, I think basically everything else from the new Beasts of Chaos, except maybe the Gors and the Centigor hero are utter gak.

**Chaoslord**

Humm, yes, the beasties certainly seem a lackluster release (if one compares them to the previous skaven for example). It's a bit too early to say if the armylist is a total flop (there's the looming 8th ed etc.), but the model-line should really have had a nice model of at least one of the new rare monsters. The studioarmy's horrible paintjob didn't exactly help selling me new minos, either.

**Alpharius**

Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:Actually saw the Razorgor today, unpainted. If you did the bulging eye as a pustule, it should look okay. Other than that, out with the clippers, snippity snip, smidge of Greenstuff (eye shouldn't be too hard to resculpt) and it will look pretty sweet. As long as you leave the additional spines off.

Are you reading what you're typing?

Come on now, MDG!

Stop it already!

The new Beasmen range is laughably bad. Sucks out loud bad.

No amount of lipstick is going to help these pigs.

GW whiffed on this one, and I'd love to know how and why.

What is up with the model approval process? Quality control?

This one is a mystery to me.

This army could and should have been so much more than this!

**Howlingmoon**

Alpharius wrote:
Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:Actually saw the Razorgor today, unpainted. If you did the bulging eye as a pustule, it should look okay. Other than that, out with the clippers, snippity snip, smidge of Greenstuff (eye shouldn't be too hard to resculpt) and it will look pretty sweet. As long as you leave the additional spines off.

Are you reading what you're typing?

Come on now, MDG!

Stop it already!

The new Beasmen range is laughably bad. Sucks out loud bad.

No amount of lipstick is going to help these pigs.

GW whiffed on this one, and I'd love to know how and why.

What is up with the model approval process? Quality control?

This one is a mystery to me.

This army could and should have been so much more than this!

I guess it's good that "Beastmen" are no longer "Chaos Beastmen". Yeah it sucks that Chaos loses more, but it's better to lose than to get stuck with garbage.

**Cannerus_The_Unbearable**

I'm part of the 0.25% that actually likes the Razorgor. Yeah, it's cartoonish and ridiculous, but it's a cute little fella

I feel like it could be used as a cheaper, uglier juggernaut replacement too.