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nothing beats the Behemoth and Devestator cannons in my book

H.B.M.C. wrote:

Grimtuff wrote:I like to think the upper cannons are launchers for the Lightning Pods.

Hmm...

"...it riddles the enemy lines with cannon shells..."

Sounds like 'shells' to me.

Rats!

Then where do the Lightning Pods get launched from? Yesterday's insider says it can use its superstructure system to deploy up to 3 of them. Silly Swans...

Probably from that round metallic bulge on the top of the hull.

Damn...Looks too much like Khador Behemoth.
Otherwise, beautiful design.

That thing looks boss!

Cool model: yes
Pricepoint: oh heeeellllll no.

@gargantuan Typical GW fanboi making out all PP fans are GW haterz.

See what I did there ;-) lol

Having seen the concepts I have to say I'm really looking forward to the retribution colossal, screams final fantasy ready for some sexy freehand over its big smooth body yum!

Can't wait for the Mercenary colossal. This model needs more giant tridents and crane arms

They need a bit more sense of scale with that model, it would be great to get an impression of the actual size. Apparently it's entirely poseable as well, which is a big tick for me.

Ooh. I don't dig warjacks, but I do dig this!

I think the scale is 'enormous'. I think they've only posted shots of the Khador one compared to other models, and that thing was HUGE.

Way too far on the wrong side of $100 for my tastes. But the big question will be how the rules are. Will these be like the battle wagons or will these affect the battle enough that you will see and have to prepare for them always.

Yeah, if anything the Battle Engines seem to be a little underpowered... hopefully these are viable for 18-20 points, but not game-breaking.

Not the biggest fan of this particular one, but I love the concept and am looking forward to more! $135 seems about right, imo... makes it an obvious "just one, and at a discount" decision, though

The price tag is a no go for me. I normally think PP is pretty awesome, but this is a dog at $135 compared to the large model kits like the Trygon, Baneblade, and even some Forgeworld pieces at lower prices.

PP has been repackaging their units into full boxes, putting cavalry into full boxes and releasing things like the battle engines and this which is pushing up the price point for a single purchase.

Even though I don't even play 40k and do play Cygnar, I'm more likely to buy a Trygon than this thing. It's just a better kit for less money.

I think we're going to see the rules for these things be quite competitive compared to the battle engines.

I’m a big fan of PP but I will admit that the pricing on this product is inherently silly. They’re charging way too much for this product IMO.

UNCLEBADTOUCH wrote:@gargantuan Typical GW fanboi making out all PP fans are GW haterz.

No, but the PP fans who ARE haterz are annoyingly loud and whiny.

The PP forums became unbearable tbh, and that segment of PP's fanbase made me ashamed to associate with them anymore and I quit the game...

I think if PP wants to sell lots of these, they need to be on the stronger side of their offerings in terms of rules. Right up there with the Deathjack, Banes + Tartarus, Gun Mages+UA , Avatar of Menoth, etc.,.

In other words, top tier leaning towards auto-include for a lot of people.

frozenwastes wrote:I think if PP wants to sell lots of these, they need to be on the stronger side of their offerings in terms of rules. Right up there with the Deathjack, Banes + Tartarus, Gun Mages+UA , Avatar of Menoth, etc.,.

In other words, top tier leaning towards auto-include for a lot of people.

Except PP doesnt do this. Historically power creep has been rather minimal in Warmahordes, and bigger, more costly models are not usually auto-includes nor game breakers.

Any news on what the FA will be on these guys? Are they character jacks? uniques? If not I would guess FA 1 or FA2 and heavy on points cost.

Last I heard, FA 2, PC 20

Given that my group played 35 and 50 PC games as standard that would be a lot of PC on just one model...

$135 is freaking expensive, no matter how big/huge the model. With tax that comes close to $150. While the colossals look really cool, I'm afraid that it will drive customers away from local game stores(which we all know already aren't the best money-makers in the world) and to the internet where they can get 20-30% discounts and free shipping. I know I won't be getting one anytime soon, online or off.

wow he looks great

I think I barely have 35pts worth of Khador, but still planning to get the khador colossus, just too cool lookin.

CT GAMER wrote:

frozenwastes wrote:I think if PP wants to sell lots of these, they need to be on the stronger side of their offerings in terms of rules. Right up there with the Deathjack, Banes + Tartarus, Gun Mages+UA , Avatar of Menoth, etc.,.

In other words, top tier leaning towards auto-include for a lot of people.

Except PP doesnt do this. Historically power creep has been rather minimal in Warmahordes, and bigger, more costly models are not usually auto-includes nor game breakers.

I'm not sure the model alone without being really good in the game is enough to drive sales at $135.

That price...... ouch.

Might pick up the Menoth one as a hobby project, turn it into a gaint walking cathedral with a scenic/diorama base. The Stormwall kinda look likes it belongs in Real Steel.

Are there any pics of the others?

Gargantuan wrote:

Very typical PP fan behaviour. If someone criticize PP just say that GW is worse.

I prefer Warmachine but I'm so tired of this.

QFT. I like WM, I really do. I think PP's creativity is lacking, but their game design is great.

However, I am insanely tired of "well, GW's worse" syndrome. Being better than GW isn't the goal: Being good is. (presumably)

PP minis so frequently lack common sense:

boilers right against bare skin
gun machinery where there should also be joints
the decimator and its giant revolver, where the gun chambers would never align with the barrel
man-o-war shields with barrels wider than they are long

etc, etc. These are things where, easily half the time, if someone I know who hasn't played WM looks at them, they point out "what?" re: the glaring mistakes.


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CT GAMER wrote:[Historically power creep has been rather minimal in Warmahordes

Legends. That is all.

Gargantuan wrote:Very typical PP fan behaviour. If someone criticize PP just say that GW is worse.

I prefer Warmachine but I'm so tired of this.

Neither the PP or GW “hardcore” fans are at fault here. This is the result of “us vs them” syndrome in any PP thread where a GW comparison is made (or vice versa). Never understood the logic behind “us vs them” syndrome as at the end of the day, as long as you’re happy with your purchase, who cares what anyone else thinks.

As a humorous side note, I actually chuckled at the “GW is worse” part because it is usually true.

frozenwastes wrote:

CT GAMER wrote:

frozenwastes wrote:I think if PP wants to sell lots of these, they need to be on the stronger side of their offerings in terms of rules. Right up there with the Deathjack, Banes + Tartarus, Gun Mages+UA , Avatar of Menoth, etc.,.

In other words, top tier leaning towards auto-include for a lot of people.

Except PP doesnt do this. Historically power creep has been rather minimal in Warmahordes, and bigger, more costly models are not usually auto-includes nor game breakers.

I'm not sure the model alone without being really good in the game is enough to drive sales at $135.

I agree. It is an ok model, but I wouldnt pay full retail for it...

UNCLEBADTOUCH wrote: I'm sure some enterprising gamers will be using the Khador one as a source of cheap warhound titans.

Not nearly big enough for a Warhound....

These are clearly pieces for collectors moreso than gamers. That thing is freaking sweet, I'd love to build and paint one just for the fun of it. Maybe I'd use it, but I don't play large enough games to justify a 20 point model since I really dislike larger games.

That said, I wonder how hard it would be to find a suitable stand-in. Looks to be about 5"~5.5" which is huge for miniature wargaming but it's about perfect for normal action figures. Buy a $3 120mm base and the unit card off the PP webstore, find a $20 mcfarlane toy or something similar and do a little conversion and paintwork.

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