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2012/04/30 17:45:39
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You pledge the total amount. Eg. I pledged the $100 abomination, plus $25 shipping, plus $20 for the extra tiles and $20 for the two extra chars. So $165 total, choosing the $100 pledge option. Then you get a survey saying what you want, when the time has ended. At least afaik
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2012/04/30 19:28:36
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CptJake wrote:
I would like to see the figures/data that shows the 'huge profits' you assume they will make. I would be willing to bet the profits from this are right along the lines that any game of this type makes, and not huge.
As for 10 bucks a figure, you need to consider you are going to get 2 for that (so 5 each) if you only purchase the ones that come with the zombie figure as well as the character. Add shipping is included (in the US) and the price per becomes more reasonable. Once you factor in payment to the sculptor, mold costs and so forth I think you will find (if you do any research) that 5-10 for a limited edition figure is actually low.
Looks like there are 1664 copies of the game being sold, as of right now... Do the math.
The games don't cost $50 to make, even with the extra models. Even with shipping, it MIGHT hit $60 a game... and that's a VERY generous estimate.
As for the models being 2 for 10... that's ONLY if they reach the second plateau... then, you get the second mode - they haven't reached that plateau for the last modell. Even at $5 each, the cheapo plastic models aren't worth that much.
...and I don't believe any of those are limited edition miniatures. the 2 newest don't say anything about being promo or LE, and the earlier ones all say they're promo models not available in the main box... That doesn't mean they're not going to be available later.
You can get a model sculpted for $300 to $500. If you use the same guy for all of them, you can get a discount. Mold costs for these things won't amount to enough to dent what Kickstarter's raising for them.
They're making a HUGE profit on Kickstarter. Huge.
Eric
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Black Fiend wrote: Okay all the ChapterHouse Nazis to the right!! All the GW apologists to the far left. LETS GET READY TO RUMBLE !!!
The Green Git wrote: I'd like to cross section them and see if they have TFG rings, but that's probably illegal.
Polonius wrote: You have to love when the most clearly biased person in the room is claiming to be objective.
Greebynog wrote:Us brits have a sense of fair play and propriety that you colonial savages can only dream of.
Stelek wrote: I know you're afraid. I want you to be. Because you should be. I've got the humiliation wagon all set up for you to take a ride back to suck city.
Quote: LunaHound--- Why do people hate unpainted models? I mean is it lacking the realism to what we fantasize the plastic soldier men to be?
I just can't stand it when people have fun the wrong way. - Chongara
I do believe that the GW "moneysheep" is a dying breed, despite their bleats to the contrary. - AesSedai
You are a thief and a predator of the wargaming community, and i'll be damned if anyone says differently ever again on my watch in these forums. -MajorTom11 |
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2012/04/30 19:38:27
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Alluring Sorcerer of Slaanesh
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MagickalMemories wrote:
You can get a model sculpted for $300 to $500. If you use the same guy for all of them, you can get a discount. Mold costs for these things won't amount to enough to dent what Kickstarter's raising for them.
They're making a HUGE profit on Kickstarter. Huge.
Eric
WOAH WOAH hold on a second... business's are making a profit off their products. I for one am just pissed, PISSED I TELL YOU!!! Seriously who cares if they make a profit as that's kinda the point of business. Coolmini is growing and to do so and put our cool new products they need to be able to profit.
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Listen, my children, as I pass onto you the truth behind Willy Wonka and his factory. For every wonka bar ever created in existance, Mr. Wonka sacraficed a single Oompa Loompa to the god of chocolate, Hearshys. Then, he drank the blood of the fallen orange men because he fed them a constant supply of sugary chocolate so they all became diabetic and had creamy, sweet-tasting blood that willy could put into each and every Wonka bar. That is the REAL story behind willy wonka's Slaughter House! |
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2012/04/30 19:52:14
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Courageous Beastmaster
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The kickstarter is up to $214k now, so I am betting they'll reach $240k.
And considering each new character they add means another die that needs to be machined in metal for the plastic casts, it adds up really quickly. Metal moulds are not cheap ever for these products.
And considering if you invest $100 you're getting a game plus all the bonus items, and over 100 figures, I am thinking that the cost/benefit ratio works in the buyers favour just as much.
People aren't giving this company money for no return. Kickstarters really are a way to front-load sales from the market to help cover the costs for development and manufacturing. The reason they are doing it is because it helps drive the cost per unit down as they are able to realise a profit from it sooner, and thus also be able to support the game better as time goes on.
In regards to the extra survivors being offered in the Kickstarter, according to the comments being made from CMON, the figures will be available in the kickstarter after a number are made, and any remaining will be sold at various conventions etc. Once they're gone, that's it.
Also, as a guy who runs his own shop, having a cost per item of $60 with a retail sale return of $79-89 is a bad business strategy. If it costs you that much to make you won't be making any money when selling to wholesalers, as they look for at least 50-100% mark-up just so they can make a crust. So your idea of this company suddenly swimming in cash is pretty laughable.
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2012/04/30 20:54:22
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Empchild wrote:MagickalMemories wrote:
You can get a model sculpted for $300 to $500. If you use the same guy for all of them, you can get a discount. Mold costs for these things won't amount to enough to dent what Kickstarter's raising for them.
They're making a HUGE profit on Kickstarter. Huge.
Eric
WOAH WOAH hold on a second... business's are making a profit off their products. I for one am just pissed, PISSED I TELL YOU!!! Seriously who cares if they make a profit as that's kinda the point of business. Coolmini is growing and to do so and put our cool new products they need to be able to profit.
No reason to take that direction with it.
I've got no problem with a profit. You should probably take my comments into perspective.
I made a comment that I was seriously considering supporting them until their more recent few "bonuses," and am now having second thoughts, as I see more greed in them than the previous ones. Someone challenged my reasoning, and I answered. It's not like I was just having at them out of the blue. No reason to go on the attack.
Eric Automatically Appended Next Post: Fenriswulf wrote:Also, as a guy who runs his own shop, having a cost per item of $60 with a retail sale return of $79-89 is a bad business strategy. If it costs you that much to make you won't be making any money when selling to wholesalers, as they look for at least 50-100% mark-up just so they can make a crust. So your idea of this company suddenly swimming in cash is pretty laughable.
I've worked in enough retail environments to know how pricing and mark up work.
What's laughable is people taking the surface of my comments and presuming the worst. Maybe do the numbers a little before having at me, guys.
Anyone work in the business that they can give SOLID numbers on what it costs to product these things?
I'd be willing to wager that their cost per box is closer to $20 than it is $40. So, if they're selling these things at full MSRP, they are a lot closer to "swimming in cash" than they would be if they simply sold those same boxes @ wholesale. They're getting MSRP+ for these. My guess is that their profits are -at least- somewhere in the 200% to 250% range, even with all the freebies.
COMPARATIVELY SPEAKING, that really is huge.
Eric
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Black Fiend wrote: Okay all the ChapterHouse Nazis to the right!! All the GW apologists to the far left. LETS GET READY TO RUMBLE !!!
The Green Git wrote: I'd like to cross section them and see if they have TFG rings, but that's probably illegal.
Polonius wrote: You have to love when the most clearly biased person in the room is claiming to be objective.
Greebynog wrote:Us brits have a sense of fair play and propriety that you colonial savages can only dream of.
Stelek wrote: I know you're afraid. I want you to be. Because you should be. I've got the humiliation wagon all set up for you to take a ride back to suck city.
Quote: LunaHound--- Why do people hate unpainted models? I mean is it lacking the realism to what we fantasize the plastic soldier men to be?
I just can't stand it when people have fun the wrong way. - Chongara
I do believe that the GW "moneysheep" is a dying breed, despite their bleats to the contrary. - AesSedai
You are a thief and a predator of the wargaming community, and i'll be damned if anyone says differently ever again on my watch in these forums. -MajorTom11 |
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2012/04/30 21:02:48
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Fixture of Dakka
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If it costs them even close to $60 to get the game printed and sent, they are not making that much. They also had development and design costs that cut in, they will get the game distributed to sellers at a lower than retail cost, and so on. When it comes to profit per unit, obviously they do better the more they sell as costs get distributed across a larger run of product, but they are still not close to greedy in my mind. I doubt when it is said and done they hit much more than 15% profit per unit, and would guess it ends up closer to 10%.
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2012/04/30 21:24:42
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Vindicare101 wrote:In terms of the extras, do you buy those after the initial pledge? as i can't see a way to add prior to checking out on amazon?
You do it on Kickstarter. "Manage Your Pledge" button on the Zombicide kicxkstarter main page.
You change the $$ amount you want to pledge, and when the Kickstarter is over you will get a survey on kickstarter asking exactly what rewards you wanted.
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2012/04/30 21:27:41
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Alluring Sorcerer of Slaanesh
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Do remember Magick btw that between 6-10% of whatever they end at will go to kickstarter and amazon payments. I just finished preping my kickstarter progect and had to plan around that. Personally I am happy to see this game generating that much buzz and I hope it succeds.
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Listen, my children, as I pass onto you the truth behind Willy Wonka and his factory. For every wonka bar ever created in existance, Mr. Wonka sacraficed a single Oompa Loompa to the god of chocolate, Hearshys. Then, he drank the blood of the fallen orange men because he fed them a constant supply of sugary chocolate so they all became diabetic and had creamy, sweet-tasting blood that willy could put into each and every Wonka bar. That is the REAL story behind willy wonka's Slaughter House! |
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2012/04/30 21:31:39
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Gargantuan Gargant
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Eva and Martin will not be available for general sale. There will be more produced than there are Kickstarter supporters. The extra copies will be available at conventions, etc.. until they run out. There will only be the single print run, or so I've been told.
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2012/04/30 21:37:13
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Avatar of the Bloody-Handed God
Inside your mind, corrupting the pathways
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The wife and I are thinking about going halves on it
Stupid extra monies for outside USA orders
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2012/05/01 02:15:09
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Empchild wrote:Do remember Magick btw that between 6-10% of whatever they end at will go to kickstarter and amazon payments. I just finished preping my kickstarter progect and had to plan around that. Personally I am happy to see this game generating that much buzz and I hope it succeds.
Despite my personal issues with the way they're doing the most recent "bonuses," I hope my comments aren't being misconstrued. I definitely hope it succeeds (at this point, it would be a waste NOT to LOL). I understand everything about the fees KS & AP take... I just wish I knew precise numbers, so I could crunch 'em and show a more precise Profit Per Unit on this to explain my displeasure with the *most recent* "bonuses."
I just don't find the right to give them MORE money as being a bonus. "Congratulations! We've done sooo well that we now give you... The opportunity to give us more money."
LOL
It's a bit trivialized in that comment, but it gets the general feeling across.
Eric
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Black Fiend wrote: Okay all the ChapterHouse Nazis to the right!! All the GW apologists to the far left. LETS GET READY TO RUMBLE !!!
The Green Git wrote: I'd like to cross section them and see if they have TFG rings, but that's probably illegal.
Polonius wrote: You have to love when the most clearly biased person in the room is claiming to be objective.
Greebynog wrote:Us brits have a sense of fair play and propriety that you colonial savages can only dream of.
Stelek wrote: I know you're afraid. I want you to be. Because you should be. I've got the humiliation wagon all set up for you to take a ride back to suck city.
Quote: LunaHound--- Why do people hate unpainted models? I mean is it lacking the realism to what we fantasize the plastic soldier men to be?
I just can't stand it when people have fun the wrong way. - Chongara
I do believe that the GW "moneysheep" is a dying breed, despite their bleats to the contrary. - AesSedai
You are a thief and a predator of the wargaming community, and i'll be damned if anyone says differently ever again on my watch in these forums. -MajorTom11 |
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2012/05/01 04:01:00
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Gargantuan Gargant
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Added pictures of the sculpts for 2 of the kickstarter figs
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2012/05/01 04:15:15
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I'm glad this is doing so well!! The bonuses for the $100 backers are pretty sweet... unfortunately, for myself it's just not something that interests me (I CANNOT handle zombies . If the Apocalypse comes, I'm toast...). But seeing how well it's doing gives me hope that other games I am interested in can do well... even 5-10% as well would be amazing for most projects.
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2012/05/01 04:23:45
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Fixture of Dakka
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I know the description says up to 6 players, but is it possible to up that to 7 without breaking things?
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2012/05/01 09:18:50
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Rampaging Reaver Titan Princeps
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I reckon if you have all the extras like extra tiles and extra walkers (+fatties, runners +abomination), not to mention PCs it should be no problem at all. Especially given that you have scenario generators.
However that is purely conjecture.
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2012/05/01 11:25:49
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yeah,
kinda tempted... is there a international shipping availability/cost? can't see it on the site.
Panic...
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2012/05/01 11:30:33
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Shipping inside the US is free, outside the US is $25
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2012/05/01 13:15:13
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Rampaging Reaver Titan Princeps
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Update: Its on $238,368 atm, so nearly at the $240,000 stretch goal. They posted this Zombicide Kickstarter wrote:As we go into the last days of this Kickstarter, we'd like to give you two last goals and rewards. "Eagle" Chaz - A true American Hero! If we hit this stretch, all Abomination and above level pledges get him free! "Eagle" will ship at the same time as the Zombie Promo Survivors (ETA Q2 2013, might be sooner, you never know with the "Eagle"). 1 Eagle per boxed game. Zombie "Eagle" - Say it ain't so! "Eagle" can't be beaten! Except, perhaps, by the massive Kickstarter hordes! If we hit this stretch, Zombie "Eagle" is free for all Abomination level and above pledges. 1 Zombie "Eagle" per boxed game. Ships at the same time as "Eagle".
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2012/05/01 14:24:12
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Willing Inquisitorial Excruciator
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I was going to buy in this weekend anyway but with a Chuck Nor.... I mean Eagle miniature... we have entered into Shut Up And Take My Money territory.
Can't wait to paint the minis and create 3d tiles... will be a great little treat at the end of the summer.
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7K Points of Black Legion and Daemons
5K Points of Grey Knights and Red Hunters |
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2012/05/01 15:48:36
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Gargantuan Gargant
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$243,371 already achieved, so Chuck here we come !!
While I am awesomely excited about this kickstarter, I am a little dissapointed that the goals went from 20K brackets, to 40K brackets, now 50K brackets with Eagle. I can't see it costing more than 15K to cut a mold and produce 2000 figures, especially if they just put all the exclusive figures on a single mold. Although in their defense, if they kept the brackets 20K they'd already be producing another 4 figures, from scratch for us.
KickTraq has Zombicide currently trending at $289,046, That's a rough prediction based on recent pledges. Most people agree that it by nature doesn't take into consideration of the last minute feeding frenzy that is comon on Kickstarter, and Ebay auctions. Kickstarter notifies people via email to people who click the remind me button, when the last day is here, so you get a lot of people who were on the fence jumping in last minute to grab the cool swag, on successful projects.
in short, the 290k goal for Eagle is pretty doable.
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2012/05/01 16:06:15
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Did I miss something?
I'm looking for something explaining the mechanics of the game. Is there an article or walk-through somewhere that I missed the link for? So far, all I see are pics of the (admittedly NICE) contents.
Eric
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Black Fiend wrote: Okay all the ChapterHouse Nazis to the right!! All the GW apologists to the far left. LETS GET READY TO RUMBLE !!!
The Green Git wrote: I'd like to cross section them and see if they have TFG rings, but that's probably illegal.
Polonius wrote: You have to love when the most clearly biased person in the room is claiming to be objective.
Greebynog wrote:Us brits have a sense of fair play and propriety that you colonial savages can only dream of.
Stelek wrote: I know you're afraid. I want you to be. Because you should be. I've got the humiliation wagon all set up for you to take a ride back to suck city.
Quote: LunaHound--- Why do people hate unpainted models? I mean is it lacking the realism to what we fantasize the plastic soldier men to be?
I just can't stand it when people have fun the wrong way. - Chongara
I do believe that the GW "moneysheep" is a dying breed, despite their bleats to the contrary. - AesSedai
You are a thief and a predator of the wargaming community, and i'll be damned if anyone says differently ever again on my watch in these forums. -MajorTom11 |
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2012/05/01 16:17:41
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The video on the kickstarter page is a quick run down of a basic game.
Link at bottom of first post and here:
http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/coolminiornot/zombicide
EDIT: Actually the first video is more of a commercial, the second video about half way down is the game play summary. :-)
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7K Points of Black Legion and Daemons
5K Points of Grey Knights and Red Hunters |
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2012/05/01 16:57:25
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Thanks.
Since I can't watch videos (specifically, I can't HEAR them LOL) from work, is there anywhere that a written/typed version is available?
Thanks.
Eric
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Black Fiend wrote: Okay all the ChapterHouse Nazis to the right!! All the GW apologists to the far left. LETS GET READY TO RUMBLE !!!
The Green Git wrote: I'd like to cross section them and see if they have TFG rings, but that's probably illegal.
Polonius wrote: You have to love when the most clearly biased person in the room is claiming to be objective.
Greebynog wrote:Us brits have a sense of fair play and propriety that you colonial savages can only dream of.
Stelek wrote: I know you're afraid. I want you to be. Because you should be. I've got the humiliation wagon all set up for you to take a ride back to suck city.
Quote: LunaHound--- Why do people hate unpainted models? I mean is it lacking the realism to what we fantasize the plastic soldier men to be?
I just can't stand it when people have fun the wrong way. - Chongara
I do believe that the GW "moneysheep" is a dying breed, despite their bleats to the contrary. - AesSedai
You are a thief and a predator of the wargaming community, and i'll be damned if anyone says differently ever again on my watch in these forums. -MajorTom11 |
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2012/05/01 17:47:07
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Can I just clarify something - do I include the shipping (to the UK) in the pledge, or do I just pay it later?
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2012/05/01 17:48:21
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I took it as meaning include in the pledge.
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2012/05/01 17:57:10
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Fixture of Dakka
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I just peed a little in my pants.
Anyone have a comparison shot of flying frogs guys from thier zombie shoot em ups with these guys? I see a good looking campaign style baord game in my future by combining all of these guys and adding in a few home rules, XP, and dropped weapons and ammo markers....
Hmmmm.....
WHERE did I put that All Flesh Must Be Eaten stuff?
any comparison shots with the metal guys from other companies out there for size comparison? Possibilities are endless, especially with that batch of minis that looks like Rick and the crew. Then add in that bunch from Megaminis, and Hasslefree.... oooh, yeahs......
I see a whole new game in my future...
Oh... and by the way, when Chuck bites you, you get infected with Norris.
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2012/05/01 18:12:14
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MagickalMemories wrote:Thanks.
Since I can't watch videos (specifically, I can't HEAR them LOL) from work, is there anywhere that a written/typed version is available?
Thanks.
Eric
The Zombicide Blog on the developers site has some examples
Quick Summary:
Action Point based.
Mission Goals. Complete the Goals you win the scenario.
Each Survivor has different stats. Essentially bonuses to add to different dice rolls.
Every Zombie you kill earns you an XP. XP are kept track of on the character card with slider. XP bar has colored bands, When you move slider into next color band you gain new abilities.
Making noise places noise counters on board. Shooting and breaking in doors makes noise
Zombies move towards closest Survivor, or noise marker, they see
Each Survivor is unique and customizable.
- The six Survivors are inspired by everyday people and progress to near-demigod status as they gain Danger levels.
- Each Survivor begins with a special skill and progresses through an arborescence of new skills as he/she gains Danger levels. Two players could play the same survivor and choose different paths, different gameplays.
Actions! Each survivor begins with three actions per turn, to spend among some of the following action choices.
- Moving from one zone to the next.
- Opening a door (door-breaking equipment is required)
- Fighting zombies in hand-to-hand or ranged combat (may produce noise)
- Searching for Equipment (draw a random Equipment card)
- Make some noise
- Getting in or out of a car.
Every survivor may gain more actions with Danger levels, to spend among specific actions choices.
Equipment! Survivors may loot very cool stuff while searching secluded spaces or wrecked cars.
- Weapons, hand-to-hand or ranged, including revolver, shotgun, rifle, SMG, axe, machete, katana, chainsaw, etc.
- Some weapons may be used in "dual": both are activated in the same action. We KNOW you"ll love to play a dual-SMG or dual-machete wielding survivor.
- Extra stuff like goalie mask (ignore one wound), scope (+rifle = sniper rifle), extra ammo (rerolls), bottles and gasoline (Molotov cocktail), etc.
- Food equipment may be a mission objective.
- Some Equipment cards are trapped and give way to a minor zombie spawn. Digging in the dirt may be such a thrill!
Surviving! A survivor takes a wound and loses one chosen Equipment card for each zombie in the same zone as his at the beginning of the zombie turn. Two wounds and the survivor's a goner.
Players soon learn that a collaborative team is an efficient but somewhat fragile killing machine.
The "Danger level" defines the game rhythm. A survivor gains experience for each zombie he eliminates and gains new skills as he reaches "Danger levels" defined by colors: blue, yellow, orange and, finally, red. The most experienced survivor sets the "Danger level" for zombie spawns. The more experienced he is, the more zombies will spawn.
Each game turn begins with the "player's turn" then the "zombies' turn". The first player changes at the beginning of each turn. Zombicide is not just for violence, it's also for strategy and planning.
The game is scenario-oriented and victory is achieved through completion of various objectives from finding food to rescuing fellow survivors, including cleaning an infested area and running a car-race through the city. A 20mn tutorial is enough to learn the mechanics and give way to ten scenarios of growing difficulty and intensity. The modular material easily allows players to create their own scenarios.
There are 4 zombie types: Walkers, Runners, Fatties and the Abomination.
- Walkers are the rank-and-file zombies, numerous, stupid and slow. Your average zombie.
- Runners are really fast and really smart. As they play twice per zombie's turn, they're your worst nightmare in close quarters.
- Fatties are hard to kill and come with an escort of two "walkers".
- The Abomination looks like an inexorable and overwhelming fattie. There's only one way to kill it and you need to combine Equipment cards to build the required weapon: a Molotov cocktail!
ZOMBIES ARE PLAYED BY THE GAME ITSELF.
- They move according to the survivors they see and hear. Vision and noise are crucial to confront, avoid or possibly control the zombie horde.
- Zombies enter the board through "zombies spawn zones" defined by the scenario and manholes sketched over the game tiles. Opening the first door of a building also triggers a zombie spawn in each zone of the building.
- The way they spawn is defined by Zombie cards randomly picked from the Zombie deck. Pick one card per Zombie spawn zone. Each zombie card figures four combinations of zombies to put in play, one for each danger level. Pick a card, read the according line, put the zombie minis in play, it's as simple as that.
- Survivors don't freely choose their targets among zombies. The wounding priorities in any targeted zone are: Walkers first, then Fatties (including the Abomination) and, finally, Runners. Yes, runners indirectly benefit from the Fatties "meat shield" effect and consequently are the last to be eliminated. We told you they were smart. You were warned.
Moreover, survivors are priority targets for ranged combat. Never shoot in a zone including a fellow survivor AND zombies, you would kill your friend first. Going in hand-to-hand combat is the only way to help him/her. Will you take the risk?
Anyone have a comparison shot
To the best of my knowledge there are no photos currently floating the web between the Zombicide Prototype figures and any other figures.
Exporing buildings can result in finding new gear or more zombies. Determined by drawing cards.
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This message was edited 3 times. Last update was at 2012/05/01 18:21:44
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2012/05/01 20:04:07
Subject: Zombicide - Free Exclusives with Pre-order less than a week left - Pic Heavy
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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yeah,
Looking at it again. I'm not sure I'm sold on the actual game. I just want the cool bonus figures.
The map seems to have way too many road crossings.
Panic...
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2012/05/01 20:06:40
Subject: Zombicide - Free Exclusives with Pre-order less than a week left - Pic Heavy
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Rampaging Reaver Titan Princeps
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If the game does turn out a let down, i reckon i'll just make it into my own game. For the price, you get a lot of pretty cool contemporary looking zombies thanks to the stretch goals. Want to do a 3d board either way. Given that its a modern setting the board should double for infinity too, which is always a bonus!
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2012/05/01 20:07:41
Subject: Zombicide - Free Exclusives with Pre-order less than a week left - Pic Heavy
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Avatar of the Bloody-Handed God
Inside your mind, corrupting the pathways
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Panic wrote:The map seems to have way too many road crossings.
Panic...
It's so people don't keep on running over the zombies.
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