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 OverwatchCNC wrote:
 Pacific wrote:
Was going to mention the Infinity business before. At this risk of getting sued (or beaten up), I'll just say that I don't think this guy helps to sell his products..


Which is too bad because I actually like his products a lot.


i believe GW has proven that a company can be successful despite itself


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 OverwatchCNC wrote:
 Pacific wrote:
Was going to mention the Infinity business before. At this risk of getting sued (or beaten up), I'll just say that I don't think this guy helps to sell his products..


Which is too bad because I actually like his products a lot.


General consensus amongst the people I talked to at AdeptiCon, Battlefoam is an awesome product... Romeo is not...

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 Pacific wrote:
Was going to mention the Infinity business before. At this risk of getting sued (or beaten up), I'll just say that I don't think this guy helps to sell his products..
Who did he rage at? Another foam competitor who, heaven forbid, isn't as expensive as their stuff, or another baseball bat supplier that called him on his business.



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 BrookM wrote:
 Pacific wrote:
Was going to mention the Infinity business before. At this risk of getting sued (or beaten up), I'll just say that I don't think this guy helps to sell his products..
Who did he rage at? Another foam competitor who, heaven forbid, isn't as expensive as their stuff, or another baseball bat supplier that called him on his business.


Look up the Warstore, Sabol, and Battlefoam Foam Wars, there was also some issues with an Infinity podcast... but Pacific seems to know more than I.

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Gathering the Informations.

 BrookM wrote:
 Pacific wrote:
Was going to mention the Infinity business before. At this risk of getting sued (or beaten up), I'll just say that I don't think this guy helps to sell his products..
Who did he rage at? Another foam competitor who, heaven forbid, isn't as expensive as their stuff, or another baseball bat supplier that called him on his business.

Without going into a huge amount of the details:

He raged at people on the official Infinity forum who were veeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeerrry critical of the Infinity O-12 Podcast. Some of the criticisms were completely valid, but quite a few of them were just silly criticisms.
Following that he did put an apology in the podcast for his behavior, which doesn't excuse it or lessen the issue, but it's not something most people would necessarily do after having an internet tough guy blowup.
   
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Romeo seems to have a severe anger problem. That is not a good quality in a business owner.

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I've never been given a great impression of Romeo as an individual. Battlefoam seems like a good product but from this he seems to do it a disservice.

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Are we surprised really?

Battlefoam's sued two or three other foam manufacturers before, on grounds that the Judges have not only thrown out as frivilous, but also so outrageously stupid that they told Battlefoam to 'have sober reflection' on what they've done and tried to do.

And hell. Romeo did threaten to physically hunt down harm myself and other members of the Infinity Community for criticizing statements he made in a podcast.

From: Battle Foam
Title: You can hide, but not forever...

Hey clown, I'll tell you this one time and one time only. I will find out who you are and we will handle this like men. Not only are you full of gak and causing drama in all kinds of place but you have no fething clue who I am and what I am capable of doing.

Do me the biggest favor and tell me who you are. Tell me what your name is and what part of the world you live in. I'm guessing you'll continue to hide on forums and trash talk me.

When I find out who you are, and I will we will take care of this. I promise you that. You have pushed this to far and you are now my new hobby.

Tick, tick, tick, your time is coming.


But hey, guess physical threats of violence are alright, but speaking truthfully about bad business practices results in lawsuits. Way to keep it classy, fellows!

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I remember reading the article. It was about the poor business practices of the dude that owned battle foam and how he promised prize support and didn't deliver and if he did it would be just the case and not the foam. And how he pitched a fit about something or another here and there and was kind of a dick in general. The way the post was written it seemed like it may have been personal or something. It was not anymore derogatory or libelous than anything anyone else would write about GW on a normal tuesday lol. but i guess since it was a featured article of BoK it must have rubbed someone the wrong way.

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For a history of some of the actions that Romeo has conducted...
http://bloodofkittens.com/blog/2010/09/14/40k-douche-bag-battlefoam/

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Hahaha dat physical threat, 'you dont know what im capable of herp derp derpy herp derp.'

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Gathering the Informations.

 Killionaire wrote:
Are we surprised really?

Battlefoam's sued two or three other foam manufacturers before, on grounds that the Judges have not only thrown out as frivilous, but also so outrageously stupid that they told Battlefoam to 'have sober reflection' on what they've done and tried to do.

And hell. Romeo did threaten to physically hunt down harm myself and other members of the Infinity Community for criticizing statements he made in a podcast.

From: Battle Foam
Title: You can hide, but not forever...

Hey clown, I'll tell you this one time and one time only. I will find out who you are and we will handle this like men. Not only are you full of gak and causing drama in all kinds of place but you have no fething clue who I am and what I am capable of doing.

Do me the biggest favor and tell me who you are. Tell me what your name is and what part of the world you live in. I'm guessing you'll continue to hide on forums and trash talk me.

When I find out who you are, and I will we will take care of this. I promise you that. You have pushed this to far and you are now my new hobby.

Tick, tick, tick, your time is coming.


But hey, guess physical threats of violence are alright, but speaking truthfully about bad business practices results in lawsuits. Way to keep it classy, fellows!

Look. I dislike Romeo's behavior as much as the next guy, but let's not pretend that most of the "criticism" was valid.

Statements which could be summed up as "Romeo's a moron/doesn't know what he's talking about/etc, why don't Tom and Kip just shut him up so that they can actually be interesting?" aren't what I would deem to be "criticism".
It's being a jerk to someone and expecting them to just take it on the chin, because hey "criticism".
   
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 Alfndrate wrote:

General consensus amongst the people I talked to at AdeptiCon, Battlefoam is an awesome product... Romeo is not...


Let me echo that sentiment.



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 Kanluwen wrote:
 Killionaire wrote:
Are we surprised really?

Battlefoam's sued two or three other foam manufacturers before, on grounds that the Judges have not only thrown out as frivilous, but also so outrageously stupid that they told Battlefoam to 'have sober reflection' on what they've done and tried to do.

And hell. Romeo did threaten to physically hunt down harm myself and other members of the Infinity Community for criticizing statements he made in a podcast.

From: Battle Foam
Title: You can hide, but not forever...

Hey clown, I'll tell you this one time and one time only. I will find out who you are and we will handle this like men. Not only are you full of gak and causing drama in all kinds of place but you have no fething clue who I am and what I am capable of doing.

Do me the biggest favor and tell me who you are. Tell me what your name is and what part of the world you live in. I'm guessing you'll continue to hide on forums and trash talk me.

When I find out who you are, and I will we will take care of this. I promise you that. You have pushed this to far and you are now my new hobby.

Tick, tick, tick, your time is coming.


But hey, guess physical threats of violence are alright, but speaking truthfully about bad business practices results in lawsuits. Way to keep it classy, fellows!

Look. I dislike Romeo's behavior as much as the next guy, but let's not pretend that most of the "criticism" was valid.

Statements which could be summed up as "Romeo's a moron/doesn't know what he's talking about/etc, why don't Tom and Kip just shut him up so that they can actually be interesting?" aren't what I would deem to be "criticism".
It's being a jerk to someone and expecting them to just take it on the chin, because hey "criticism".


All of that is valid criticism. Fox news(?) does worse every day. Just because you don't like something doesn't make it actionable.
   
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For further scummy business by Romeo, this was my first encounter of the product and one of the first times I posted on Dakka:
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/279792.page#1362344

He basically hijacks a rival company's thread and trash-talks them in public. He later goes on to sue Outrider for being a rival or something.
   
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I did enjoy the stickers in the elevator at Adepticon though

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Gathering the Informations.

 newbis wrote:

All of that is valid criticism. Fox news(?) does worse every day. Just because you don't like something doesn't make it actionable.

"Valid criticism" does not require you to resort to namecalling or to be critical of the person rather than the work that they have put forward.

Again though, let me reiterate.

I don't think Romeo is in the right. I don't think anyone who was involved in that clusterfeth of ridiculousness can come out of it and pretend that they were completely innocent.

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 Hulksmash wrote:
I did enjoy the stickers in the elevator at Adepticon though


I was trying to find a picture of those stickers to post in this thread

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 jah-joshua wrote:
this is why my case is a Sabol...

cheers
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I have two Sabol cases: the motor pool (worth a damn) and the Division (which moves like a drunken sailor on the first day of shore leave). I regret the second purchase entirely.



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I think the fact that Romeo can't stand his own business reputation and decided to do this instead of change his ways gives me enough of a reason not to order the XL i was looking at for my 30k Iron Warriors Project.

Time to go with Sabol instead.

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 Warboss Gubbinz wrote:
I think the fact that Romeo can't stand his own business reputation and decided to do this instead of change his ways gives me enough of a reason not to order the XL i was looking at for my 30k Iron Warriors Project.

Time to go with Sabol instead.


Don't do it.

Unless your army is tiny, Sabol is a severly second class product. When you're trying to protect a huge investment of time and money, buy good stuff.
   
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haha the title is wrong. Is BoK suing Battleform. Battleform just send a C&D letter, a demand letter. A demand letter don't mean you suing someone. Is just a legal threat that all. Nick is the one filed the law sue.

Haha but i think the title is intended to be wrong. I will have to agree this is the "correct" title.

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 Baldsmug wrote:
I remember reading the article. It was about the poor business practices of the dude that owned battle foam and how he promised prize support and didn't deliver and if he did it would be just the case and not the foam. And how he pitched a fit about something or another here and there and was kind of a dick in general. The way the post was written it seemed like it may have been personal or something. It was not anymore derogatory or libelous than anything anyone else would write about GW on a normal tuesday lol. but i guess since it was a featured article of BoK it must have rubbed someone the wrong way.


Let me preface: I am not a Tasty hater.

If the article was written in Tasty's normal manner than I can almost guarantee it was written on the verge of being called a personal attack. He, Tasty, does push the envelope of slander quite a bit in his blog posts and even writes some clearly erroneous statements. That said it would appear Romeo is no better.

Either way I will continue to read Tasty's blog and I will continue to buy Battlefoam products. Someone further up said these two deserve each other and it certainly appears that way. Lucky for us it will all be a matter of public record if it goes to trial so I plan on pulling up a chair, popping some pop corn, and cracking open a beer.

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Updated the title so that it is correct - please let me know if it isn't!

   
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 Polonius wrote:
 Warboss Gubbinz wrote:
I think the fact that Romeo can't stand his own business reputation and decided to do this instead of change his ways gives me enough of a reason not to order the XL i was looking at for my 30k Iron Warriors Project.

Time to go with Sabol instead.


Don't do it.

Unless your army is tiny, Sabol is a severly second class product. When you're trying to protect a huge investment of time and money, buy good stuff.


I agree. I was a Sabol user for years, the Battlefoam stuff (though insanely expensive) is a massively superior product. I love my two PACK AIR bags but hate my 2 Sabol cases Motor Pool and the small one its name escapes me...

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I know I was reading it wrong but when I got to the part about, "Battle Foam has incurred significant damages as a result of your tortious acts" I started laughing thinking of poor Romeo in an orange jumpsuit being escorted by BoK goons to his new "home" in Guantanamo.

Seriously, lawyers need to come up with a new word for alleged violations of tort law.


 
   
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 Alpharius wrote:
Updated the title so that it is correct - please let me know if it isn't!

Thanks! I only put one point into Knowledge: Law.

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