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If it's a update then you'll be able to keep your 6th edition (and add stronghold and escalation if you've not already go them)

or buy the big bumper 6.1 book with them all in one volume

if this is real

(especially thinking of the strong rumours of a Fantasy re-boot with combined army lists which if this latest rumour is true were wrong or have been shelved)

Maybe this means we'll get useable tracked tanks again

Very odd indeed if this is true, GW typically waits at least 4 years between editions, only 2 years would be very odd indeed.

That said, the current state of the game could merit it. We've got a huge mess of a ruleset right now. While GW has finally learned to accelerate releases so that Codex books are released at a reasonable pace, we've also got a glut of E-book material that feels like it's being slung out just for it's own sake, a lot of it garbage. On top of that, we've got two very big supplements that change the game in fundamental ways with the Stronghold assault and Escalation. This is all of course in addition to very confused 6E ruleset that can't quite decide what it wants to be, as we've got elements of skirmish/rpg scale systems in a game often played with hundreds of models.


Here's looking to 7th hopefully. I won't shed many tears for 6th edition if it proves to be true.

Hmm. Crazy out there rumor? Okay. But from a reliable monger? Oh oh.

Some people are saying 6.1. Wouldn't it really be 3.4?

3rd edition is 3.0
4th edition is 3.1
5th edition is 3.2
6th edition is 3.3

So yes it really would be 3.4 because each edition, is really not a change like 2nd edition to 3rd edition is a REAL change. Everything after 3rd edition was just basically tweaks.

Seriously now, I don't think it will be 7th edition. I think it will be a complitation or an All-In-One book updated to the current FAQ.

I've never understood why a new starter has to necessarily be tied to a new edition of the rules.

Old players are going to buy in to a new box if you've got enough shiny in there, regardless of what edition or condition the rulebook is like.

Assuming that this elusive creature called a "new player" still exists in the wild, is a new box really what puts them over the edge and take the plunge into the game?

Genuinely curious.

Everyone wants a new edition till it comes out. Then they want a new edition.

 urion wrote:
Everyone wants a new edition till it comes out. Then they want a new edition.

I don't want a new ed. I want 5th back. I was looking forward to 6th's release, got the book, recoiled in horror, and died a little inside.

If the new book is 6.1, I'll not bother with it. If it is 7.0, I'll either go for a starter set w/mini book, or I'll do a sneaky-sneaky.

Maybe we will see a revised ally matrix or even allies made 'optional' and not part of the core game? Allies are broken and unbalanced at the moment.

Although the focus is on 40k, what about the potential impact on WHFB?

Does this mean that GW are going to rein back support - I do not see how they could drop it completely but hey I thought that about Epic all those years ago.

Anyone know what the take up for WHFB is now by new players is? Could it be that the new kids on the block like Kings of War are having an impact and getting GW to take notice.

Could be a real kick in the nether regions for the long suffering WHFB who have had to play second fiddle to 40k for so long and even taken the brunt of the impacts of the LOTR and now Hobbit license agreements

cyberjonesy wrote:
Its just a misunderstanding on 40k radio's part. The new edition of the rulebook is just a compilation of the 6th rules with escalation and stronghold assault meshed together and updated with the FAQ and errata.
Call it an upgrade rather than a brand new completely different edition of the rules.

Possible.

I'd consider a 6.1 extra-special-super-limited-all-in-one-book something they would do.
Plus some 1-click bundles.

Is it a digital release or in print?
GW split the Escalation release in two halves: an "international" english one and the rest later in april. ( WD december, page 23 ). To merge BRB and escalation in Summer ......sounds like we should have a 1st of April Escalation release over here.... thanks GW.

 1hadhq wrote:

cyberjonesy wrote:
Its just a misunderstanding on 40k radio's part. The new edition of the rulebook is just a compilation of the 6th rules with escalation and stronghold assault meshed together and updated with the FAQ and errata.
Call it an upgrade rather than a brand new completely different edition of the rules.

Possible.

I'd consider a 6.1 extra-special-super-limited-all-in-one-book something they would do.
Plus some 1-click bundles.

Is it a digital release or in print?
GW split the Escalation release in two halves: an "international" english one and the rest later in april. ( WD december, page 23 ). To merge BRB and escalation in Summer ......sounds like we should have a 1st of April Escalation release over here.... thanks GW.

April Fools Escalation Release...well played Kirby, well played.

nkelsch wrote:
Maybe we will see a revised ally matrix or even allies made 'optional' and not part of the core game? Allies are broken and unbalanced at the moment.

Would just make 90% of the forces Daemon instead of either Daemon or Eldar. :-P

There are other fundamental mechanics that need revisited like rerolling non-armor saves(Cover, and Invuln).

Also the way Fortification rules are represented, and the working of Interceptor into more units/weapons/models to balance out flyer spam....which would require a small rework to make flyers more survivable(perhaps not the Helldrake...).

 Senden wrote:

 WarOne wrote:

 thenoobbomb wrote:
Well, 40K Radio got some more attention again.

They garter this attention only because GW is so inept.

To be fair, we keep indulging GW in its lingerie of horrors from Matt Ward all the way to its money gouging tactics.

I think you mean menagerie,


At least I hope you do...

Auto-Correct rocks it makes for the most entertaining messages,one question why does it almost always changes it with something way innapproprate or embarresing ?

Auto-correct must be based on statistics, so of course it would pick something lewd..

 Eisenhorn wrote:

 Senden wrote:

 WarOne wrote:

 thenoobbomb wrote:
Well, 40K Radio got some more attention again.

They garter this attention only because GW is so inept.

To be fair, we keep indulging GW in its lingerie of horrors from Matt Ward all the way to its money gouging tactics.

I think you mean menagerie,


At least I hope you do...

Auto-Correct rocks it makes for the most entertaining messages,one question why does it almost always changes it with something way innapproprate or embarresing ?

Because Skynet. First embaressing corrections. Then it "misinterprets" a benign statement as "nuke *insert country here*"

 Eisenhorn wrote:

 Senden wrote:

 WarOne wrote:

 thenoobbomb wrote:
Well, 40K Radio got some more attention again.

They garter this attention only because GW is so inept.

To be fair, we keep indulging GW in its lingerie of horrors from Matt Ward all the way to its money gouging tactics.

I think you mean menagerie,


At least I hope you do...

Auto-Correct rocks it makes for the most entertaining messages,one question why does it almost always changes it with something way innapproprate or embarresing ?

Considering he said 'garter' instead of 'garner', I think 'lingerie' fits the theme.

an anonymous source on Faeit 212 (solid source) wrote:
The next edition of 40k will be called 7th, not 6.5 when it drops, but as far as rules go it will be less of a jump than 5th to 6th.

The key areas being updated:
Interceptor, sky fire, fortifications, lords of war, allies and data slates.

As for its release it'll probably be September not "the summer."

It's not finished yet, still being tested so anything can happen.

The thought behind this edition is to make the game less alpha strike explosive and more "competitive" at all points values (even when including Lords of War), but D weapons outside of apocalypse may see alternate rules.

ps
Pistols in close combat in 7th

 pretre wrote:
via an anonymous source on Faeit 212 (solid source)
The next edition of 40k will be called 7th, not 6.5 when it drops, but as far as rules go it will be less of a jump than 5th to 6th.

The key areas being updated:
Interceptor, sky fire, fortifications, lords of war, allies and data slates.

As for its release it'll probably be September not "the summer."

It's not finished yet, still being tested so anything can happen.

The thought behind this edition is to make the game less alpha strike explosive and more "competitive" at all points values (even when including Lords of War), but D weapons outside of apocalypse may see alternate rules.

ps
Pistols in close combat in 7th

Ok, now we know this is fake

*That was a joke.

Well it's Natfka so it really is more likely that it is fake than true.

Selym wrote:

 urion wrote:
Everyone wants a new edition till it comes out. Then they want a new edition.

I don't want a new ed. I want 5th back. I was looking forward to 6th's release, got the book, recoiled in horror, and died a little inside.

You and...nobody else.

Unless a person is incapable of playing a game that requires thought, there are none who want to go back to un-killable transports with lists made up of nothing but:

5 dudes + tank
5 dudes + tank
5 dudes + tank
5 dudes + tank
5 dudes + tank
5 dudes + tank

No thank you. Good Lord that edition was a scar on the game.

 brassangel wrote:

Yeah, we really need to go back to un-killable transports with lists made up of nothing but:

5 dudes + tank
5 dudes + tank
5 dudes + tank
5 dudes + tank
5 dudes + tank
5 dudes + tank

You forgot an important part of that list:
6 dudes (5 Missile Launchers) + Tank.
6 dudes (5 Missile Launchers) + Tank.
6 dudes (5 Missile Launchers) + Tank.

 pretre wrote:
Well it's Natfka so it really is more likely that it is fake than true.

More likely that the specifics he posted are not true at least. Remember, 40k Radio is batting just about perfect with the only faults being stuff they withheld to get people to listen to their show.

One way or another this will be interesting to watch unfold I think.

 pretre wrote:

 brassangel wrote:

Yeah, we really need to go back to un-killable transports with lists made up of nothing but:

5 dudes + tank
5 dudes + tank
5 dudes + tank
5 dudes + tank
5 dudes + tank
5 dudes + tank

You forgot an important part of that list:
6 dudes (5 Missile Launchers) + Tank.
6 dudes (5 Missile Launchers) + Tank.
6 dudes (5 Missile Launchers) + Tank.

lol. Ah yes. Because 5th edition had so much "variety", some went with lots of meltaguns instead of missile launchers. That could throw things off, let me tell you.

Exactly. 40k radio is pretty trustworthy.

For my money, I'm betting on 're-release of 6th with a bunch of stuff included in the main rulebook'.


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 brassangel wrote:
lol. Ah yes. Because 5th edition had so much "variety", some went with lots of meltaguns instead of missile launchers. That could throw things off, let me tell you.

I loved me some 5th but 6th is better, imo. So yeah, we're on the same page. My razorspam wolves are sad though.

 brassangel wrote:

Selym wrote:

 urion wrote:
Everyone wants a new edition till it comes out. Then they want a new edition.

I don't want a new ed. I want 5th back. I was looking forward to 6th's release, got the book, recoiled in horror, and died a little inside.

You and...nobody else.

Unless a person is incapable of playing a game that requires thought, there are none who want to go back to un-killable transports with lists made up of nothing but:

5 dudes + tank
5 dudes + tank
5 dudes + tank
5 dudes + tank
5 dudes + tank
5 dudes + tank

No thank you. Good Lord that edition was a scar on the game.

I agree the tanks were too unkillable in that edition. Since I have been playing since Rogue trade, 3rd Edition REALLY pissed me off by making oversimplified, then have progressively liked editions since. I liked 5th, but I like 6th better. I like bringing more individuality to the game, challenges, allies, special rules, bringing back variance to codexes - like giving powers back to exarchs for Eldar, making Nids viable again - guess we will see what the new codex holds. I personally hope that this is a revamp or clean up of 6th as I am not quite ready to say goodbye to it and would love for once since 2nd edition to see everyone have a current codex...

 Eiluj The Farseer wrote:
would love for once since 2nd edition to see everyone have a current codex...

Who didn't have a codex in 3rd?

 pretre wrote:

 Eiluj The Farseer wrote:
would love for once since 2nd edition to see everyone have a current codex...

Who didn't have a codex in 3rd?

Weren't Dark Eldar stuck in second? I remember seeing on the previous DE dex a stamp that said something like "2nd edition"

It was a while though, so I may be mistaken.

DE launched with the third edition box set. They got their codex second in 3rd edition, right after SM

Ah, right. It must have been the second edition of that codex then.

 brassangel wrote:

Selym wrote:

 urion wrote:
Everyone wants a new edition till it comes out. Then they want a new edition.

I don't want a new ed. I want 5th back. I was looking forward to 6th's release, got the book, recoiled in horror, and died a little inside.

You and...nobody else.

Unless a person is incapable of playing a game that requires thought, there are none who want to go back to un-killable transports with lists made up of nothing but:

5 dudes + tank
5 dudes + tank
5 dudes + tank
5 dudes + tank
5 dudes + tank
5 dudes + tank

No thank you. Good Lord that edition was a scar on the game.

Have you seen some of the Eldar lists lately?

The only difference with 6th is that the tracked tanks armies can't do this, the Skimmer armies can.