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2014/05/03 00:28:56
Subject: Re:Rocket Games - Last Saga: New Skirmish Game!
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Fresh-Faced New User
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Thanks for your support! English rulebook should be ready shortly for sharing.
We are now on Twitter, hope it helps us to keep you informed!
Best regards!
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2014/05/03 17:14:00
Subject: Rocket Games - Last Saga: New Skirmish Game!
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Dankhold Troggoth
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The art looks good, but I'd like to see some more 3D models and preferably at least a few casts.
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2014/05/10 22:44:42
Subject: Rocket Games - Last Saga: New Skirmish Game!
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Fresh-Faced New User
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RiTides wrote:The art looks good, but I'd like to see some more 3D models and preferably at least a few casts.
We've just received a new render that is ready to send to print. We hope to have it ready before the start of the KS campaign.
Now we have a launch date !!
Friday May 16th, the 30-Days campaign will begin where, with your support, we hope to make “Last Saga” a reality.
Our target is to successfully get funding to complete the 3D models for the starter packs for the factions: The Council and Uruhvel; their consequent 3D prints, and the necessary copies to provide our backers with the miniatures composing our game.
We wish that our proposal is of your pleasure, thank you very much for your support and interest!
You can follow us in:
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/RocketGames.ltd
Twitter: @RocketGamesLtd
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2014/05/11 00:39:18
Subject: Rocket Games - Last Saga: New Skirmish Game!
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Regular Dakkanaut
Bismarck ND
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I am really looking forward to this but I need to see some English rule set.
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2014/05/11 03:26:49
Subject: Rocket Games - Last Saga: New Skirmish Game!
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Thermo-Optical Tuareg
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I've been looking forward to this since you showed off those Fusiliers. I'm just not sure I'm going to have the money to go all in on this one. Can you tell us what currency you'll be using on it?
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2014/05/11 14:04:41
Subject: Re: Last Saga - Kickstarter launch May 16th
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Is 'Eavy Metal Calling?
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I'm getting so tired of kickstarters with pretty drawings and no casts to show for it. Will there be casts of these BEFORE the KS goes live, or will this be another kickstarter that has pretty concepts but will miss the shipping dates because the timeline is soft. Sorry if its come across rude, but there's a lot of delayed ship KS right now and I've never seen your company/game info anywhere, so I'm hesitant to back anything without some track record.
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LOL, Theo your mind is an amazing place, never change.-camkierhi 9/19/13
I cant believe theo is right.. damn. -comradepanda 9/26/13
None of the strange ideas we had about you involved your sexual orientation..........-Monkeytroll 12/10/13
I'd put you on ignore for that comment, if I could...Alpharius 2/11/14 |
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2014/05/11 22:12:54
Subject: Last Saga - Kickstarter launch May 16th
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Regular Dakkanaut
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@Theophoney - Your comment doesn't come across as rude just ignorant. The process of taking concept art from sketch to cast is expensive, and since kick starter funding is not a 100% guaranteed some people would say an unnecessary cost compared to hiring a graphic designer, organising shipping and other far more useful marketing tools.
PS - If delays and uncertainties are your biggest gripe I suggest maybe kick starter backing is not really for you....
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2014/05/11 22:18:04
Subject: Last Saga - Kickstarter launch May 16th
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Dankhold Troggoth
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"Unecessary" is not the word I would use for showing at least a test cast before / during a campaign. Wargaming blogs and forums then do your marketing for you by sharing the image everywhere.
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2014/05/11 22:26:18
Subject: Last Saga - Kickstarter launch May 16th
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Which is fine for companies like mercs and soda pop but if you don't have the spare 6 grand to produce a cast and that's if you find a manufacturer willing to do just one cast.
Anyway don't let me derail the topic, I love what I see gonna be a popular kickstarter .
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2014/05/11 22:32:53
Subject: Last Saga - Kickstarter launch May 16th
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Fixture of Dakka
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kranki wrote:Which is fine for companies like mercs and soda pop but if you don't have the spare 6 grand to produce a cast and that's if you find a manufacturer willing to do just one cast.
$6 Grand? to cast it in what?
Metal casting = Around $300
Resin Casting = Around $40
Plastic Casting = Around $20k
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2014/05/11 22:45:29
Subject: Rocket Games - Last Saga: New Skirmish Game!
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Fresh-Faced New User
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Hi, thanks for your comments and thoughts!
DaKrumpa wrote:I am really looking forward to this but I need to see some English rule set.
The rulebook is almost finished, today we had a reunion with our translator, and now only the layout remains. Because of that, it is sure that will be available before the launch next Friday. Thank you very much for your patience.
Barzam wrote:I've been looking forward to this since you showed off those Fusiliers. I'm just not sure I'm going to have the money to go all in on this one. Can you tell us what currency you'll be using on it?
About the currency used, as the project is UK based, it will be pounds. Our prices will be adjusted properly and with nice discounts in the Kickstarter project, having our products a competitive price.
Theophony wrote:I'm getting so tired of kickstarters with pretty drawings and no casts to show for it. Will there be casts of these BEFORE the KS goes live, or will this be another kickstarter that has pretty concepts but will miss the shipping dates because the timeline is soft. Sorry if its come across rude, but there's a lot of delayed ship KS right now and I've never seen your company/game info anywhere, so I'm hesitant to back anything without some track record.
We understand your points and we are aware of the problems this type of campaign has. With this in mind, we have planned accordingly: all our manufacture steps are Europe based, companies well known and with proved reputation. For examples, Griffin Moulds will be the one responsible for the casts.
For further information, stay tuned and do not hesitate in asking!
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2014/05/11 22:59:53
Subject: Re: Last Saga - Kickstarter launch May 16th
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Is 'Eavy Metal Calling?
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@kranki, its the cost of starting your own business. $6k is not that much to start a business, and most casts from 3d I have a hard time believing that's the cost to have one done. (See cyporiean's post above, kind of knowledgeable in that area ). While I've only backed 2ks, I've watched a lot more that I'm interested in, such as this, but I don't put down money on ones that there's nothing to show for it.
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LOL, Theo your mind is an amazing place, never change.-camkierhi 9/19/13
I cant believe theo is right.. damn. -comradepanda 9/26/13
None of the strange ideas we had about you involved your sexual orientation..........-Monkeytroll 12/10/13
I'd put you on ignore for that comment, if I could...Alpharius 2/11/14 |
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2014/05/11 23:18:55
Subject: Last Saga - Kickstarter launch May 16th
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Thermo-Optical Tuareg
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There are test casts. Just look at their Facebook page.
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2014/05/12 00:43:05
Subject: Last Saga - Kickstarter launch May 16th
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Dankhold Troggoth
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I believe there are only 3d prints, not casts, but I'd love to be wrong. Will be watching this regardless!
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2014/05/12 02:03:07
Subject: Re: Last Saga - Kickstarter launch May 16th
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Brutal Black Orc
The Empire State
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Saw this
Impressed with the art work, wish the female models were in full combat armor like their male counter parts. Not white knighting nor offended. Understand why they do it.
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2014/05/12 02:32:57
Subject: Re: Last Saga - Kickstarter launch May 16th
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Is 'Eavy Metal Calling?
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The tails remind me of the "Avatar" movie , really like the concept work. I'll stay tuned for the KS, just want their to be more than the sketches I've seen here. I'll look at their Facebook later when not on the iPhone.
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LOL, Theo your mind is an amazing place, never change.-camkierhi 9/19/13
I cant believe theo is right.. damn. -comradepanda 9/26/13
None of the strange ideas we had about you involved your sexual orientation..........-Monkeytroll 12/10/13
I'd put you on ignore for that comment, if I could...Alpharius 2/11/14 |
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2014/05/12 02:43:32
Subject: Re: Last Saga - Kickstarter launch May 16th
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Brutal Black Orc
The Empire State
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Theophony wrote:The tails remind me of the "Avatar" movie , really like the concept work. I'll stay tuned for the KS, just want their to be more than the sketches I've seen here. I'll look at their Facebook later when not on the iPhone.
I thought the same thing, but didn't want to go there.
"hey wanna get freaky with out little reproductive cords"
Being a more organic based race, wonder if those little tails/cords are some way to keep living (eating, breathing or getting stronger) or adapt to alien environments.
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2014/05/12 06:48:57
Subject: Last Saga - Kickstarter launch May 16th
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Fixture of Dakka
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I like the female aliens, but there seems to be a discrepancy between the male and female armor amount
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2014/05/12 22:17:10
Subject: Last Saga - Kickstarter launch May 16th
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Regular Dakkanaut
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My comment was from concept to cast is not cheap. Though I was not aware of any resin castng for $40 I assume these casts are lowish in quality, but if they are of reasonable quality please I would love more details as I am researching costs at this time... Automatically Appended Next Post: I agree with the comments about the fact male to female comparisons seem a little off unless females in last saga are bullet proof?
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2014/05/12 22:23:42
Subject: Last Saga - Kickstarter launch May 16th
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Fixture of Dakka
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kranki wrote:My comment was from concept to cast is not cheap. Though I was not aware of any resin castng for $40 I assume these casts are lowish in quality, but if they are of reasonable quality please I would love more details as I am researching costs at this time...
This should probably be another thread, or PMs.
We do our own in-house casting for Resin figures, so I'm well aware of the costs, and I'd say the results are better than the last few GW Finecast and Mantic PVC products I've picked up.
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2014/05/12 22:26:07
Subject: Last Saga - Kickstarter launch May 16th
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Cyporiean wrote:kranki wrote:Which is fine for companies like mercs and soda pop but if you don't have the spare 6 grand to produce a cast and that's if you find a manufacturer willing to do just one cast.
$6 Grand? to cast it in what?
Metal casting = Around $300
Resin Casting = Around $40
Plastic Casting = Around $20k
Not nitpicking, just curious, but are resin casts really that cheap compared to metal or is a zero missing?
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2014/05/12 22:31:45
Subject: Last Saga - Kickstarter launch May 16th
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Fixture of Dakka
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DarkTraveler777 wrote:
Not nitpicking, just curious, but are resin casts really that cheap compared to metal or is a zero missing?
Cheaper per mold, but you burn through resin molds quicker.
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2014/05/12 22:32:50
Subject: Re: Last Saga - Kickstarter launch May 16th
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Gotcha! Thanks for the information.
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2014/05/12 22:35:06
Subject: Last Saga - Kickstarter launch May 16th
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Dankhold Troggoth
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I think that's in-house casting costs, but the molds for a few resin models are indeed cheaper than doing the same for metal models, since it will usually be a flexible silicone mold. I.e. the mold itself is cheaper for resin casting, but if you're not doing it in-house the cost per cast is usually higher. That doesn't really matter for a test cast, though.
I agree that if folks want to discuss it further a new thread (maybe in Dakka Discussions) would be best.
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2014/05/13 07:32:46
Subject: Last Saga - Kickstarter launch May 16th
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Thermo-Optical Tuareg
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Hmm, I'm not really sold on the girls, but the dudes look cool. Plus, that confirms faceplates! Any chance we'll see the basic Guyver guys with full faceplates as well, or will only the heavy guys have their faces covered?
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2014/05/13 20:17:19
Subject: Re: Last Saga - Kickstarter launch May 16th
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Can I make a request? Like the others have noted the females look kind of off, is it possible to cover them up? I am not saying remove the sexiness of the model (if that is what you are going for) but I really do not think the only way a female miniature can look good is if it is essentially naked. I think if you covered them up in a unique manor with the bio-armor not only would it keep them looking good but the style would probably attract a lot more people. Sort of an example of covered up female is like a Hassassin Fiday from Infinity. She is totally covered up from head to toe including her face but still retains her "good-looking" nature. I may just be rambling but I think that is a better more realistic path that would fit better into the eventually fluff than using the simple "well they are basically naked because that is just how their species does it" which a lot of places use.
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2014/05/13 20:20:44
Subject: Re: Last Saga - Kickstarter launch May 16th
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Fresh-Faced New User
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The Uruhvel starter pack includes one Aegeon and one Undaunted in their male version (Aegeon left Undaunted right photo). But they can be seen their female versions (with similar design of armor) if we unlock the corresponding goals.
Although some girls models wear little armor it will also be heavily armored female units.
Molds masters are made from 3D prints. In the picture below you can see the print quality of the machine we use. And we put all our effort to the 3D model represents faithfully the concept of art, as it can be seen in the renders shown so far.
The objective of our campaign is not presale starter packs, but to finance production. That is why we don't have samples of castings. Hope you understand.
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2014/05/14 13:54:25
Subject: Re: Last Saga - Kickstarter launch May 16th
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Fresh-Faced New User
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Now available for download the rules beta version for Last Saga.
Please keep in mind that this document is a beta version of the rulebook and, while close to the definitive version, game balance is not finished yet and some rule details may change before the final version is published.
We wanted to share this beta version so we can hear from you, wargaming enthusiasts. We believe that collaboration with the gaming community is fundamental to create a really exciting product.
Dropbox link: https://www.dropbox.com/s/lv2p3eqwy22pubb/LastSaga_EN_beta_v0.1.pdf
Please leave any other questions you may have.
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2014/05/14 15:01:33
Subject: Last Saga - Kickstarter launch May 16th [download rules pag2]
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Regular Dakkanaut
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@Lenwean
That's a beautiful miniature. I'm very interested.
As for sci-fi and not-plate armoured chicks, meh, if they can develop laser weapons and other fanciful techno gadgets in the future, who's to say the can't also develop protective body suits? I can always model my own armour on an unarmoured figure.
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2014/05/14 16:51:26
Subject: Last Saga - Kickstarter launch May 16th [download rules pag2]
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Fresh-Faced New User
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By the way. recruitment cards, markers, templates, etc will be available to download this Friday with the Kickstarter launch.
@greywulf
Thanks! I'm glad you like our project.
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