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2014/10/19 03:03:56
Subject: News on next LW Flames of War book and further plastic kits
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Fixture of Dakka
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Not sure if that's an endorsement or not.
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2014/10/19 03:33:16
Subject: News on next LW Flames of War book and further plastic kits
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Lieutenant General
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I'm assuming Battlefront did their market research (they're not GW after all) and came to the conclusion that the Comet would sell enough to be produced in plastic. It is one of the most asked for British units for Late War on their forums it seems.
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'It is a source of constant consternation that my opponents cannot correlate their innate inferiority with their inevitable defeat. It would seem that stupidity is as eternal as war.'
- Nemesor Zahndrekh of the Sautekh Dynasty Overlord of the Crownworld of Gidrim |
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2014/10/19 12:47:46
Subject: News on next LW Flames of War book and further plastic kits
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Fixture of Dakka
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Maybe, maybe not. Still of a tank that only appears in one book justifies a plastic kit It bodes well for other kits, BF may well fulfil my top 5 ( http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/605677.page).
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2014/10/19 19:10:32
Subject: Re:News on next LW Flames of War book and further plastic kits
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It looks like a BFD for me on the british models.I am not to worried about the comets as you can occasionally buy the orginal BF ones made from resin on ebay.
I would have rather seen plastic allied armored cars and my idea, a plastic Stuart set with the option to make Scotts.Also plastic arty. would be nice.but Quality castings has some nice cheap etal arty also,2 for ten ,not bad just no crew though or bases.
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2014/10/19 19:26:41
Subject: News on next LW Flames of War book and further plastic kits
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Lieutenant General
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I can see their reasoning for doing tanks first. Tanks sell. It's the same reason that PSC has done all four main variants of the Sherman but no armoured cars. Don't get me wrong. I would love to see plastic Daimlers, Staghounds, Sextons, etc. I just know that at this point of time, it's not a realistic expectation.
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'It is a source of constant consternation that my opponents cannot correlate their innate inferiority with their inevitable defeat. It would seem that stupidity is as eternal as war.'
- Nemesor Zahndrekh of the Sautekh Dynasty Overlord of the Crownworld of Gidrim |
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2014/10/20 03:37:12
Subject: News on next LW Flames of War book and further plastic kits
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Dakka Veteran
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Wow y'all really came through with the news. I think my fallschirmjager are get some of those stugs while those very very nice Brits will be my motor Candians. Thanks to those that posted up the pics.
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2014/10/20 16:35:30
Subject: Re:News on next LW Flames of War book and further plastic kits
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Executing Exarch
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Ghaz wrote:It was a joke. I believe Battlefront learnt their lesson after the fiasco with the plastic Panzer IV H Schürzen.
One would hope so. That was definitely something of an embarrassment.
Looking at the StuG sprue, a few things jump out.
1.) There's a full assortment of guns. Each sprue allows you to build either a StuG or a StuH, and you have both mantlets for both guns.
2.) There are two hull different hull tops on the sprue, and one hull base. The hull tops appear to be exclusively differentiated by a hardpoint on the passenger-side hatch where the MG is mounted.
3.) imo, the resin StuGs are more interesting as far as extra kit on the vehicles. The plastic sprue appears to be limited to a section of track, a crate, and a couple of road wheels. The resin ones are molded with the items listed above, as well as a greater variety of crates and boxes, and spare schurzen panels. On the other hand, all of that stuff was molded into the resin hulls on the old StuGs, while the plastic stuff can be added or not added as the owner wishes.
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2014/10/20 17:21:13
Subject: News on next LW Flames of War book and further plastic kits
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Fixture of Dakka
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It's certainly not as big a hoard of previews as last year. Most of these releases seem to be dedicated to the Varsity/Plunder book. There are bound to be more plastic releases next year to accompany whatever they're doing next year.
The different casement tops look to to cover the StuG IIIG and the StuG IIIG (late) along with the different mantlets and MGs. Quite why they made two full complete upper hulls is another matter.
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2014/10/20 17:47:00
Subject: News on next LW Flames of War book and further plastic kits
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Lieutenant General
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After the shurzen fiasco, I guess they wanted to make sure the kit was accurate and not just 'close enough'. Plus if there was enough room on the sprue to get another variant out in plastic then they might as well go ahead and do so instead of wasting the space.
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'It is a source of constant consternation that my opponents cannot correlate their innate inferiority with their inevitable defeat. It would seem that stupidity is as eternal as war.'
- Nemesor Zahndrekh of the Sautekh Dynasty Overlord of the Crownworld of Gidrim |
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2014/10/20 17:57:20
Subject: News on next LW Flames of War book and further plastic kits
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Fixture of Dakka
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I reckon that same space could have been filled by two casements (G and G late) and there's plenty of room on the other side for a third (F/8) casement. There may of course be good reasons why BF didn't add the F/8.
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2014/10/22 03:39:40
Subject: News on next LW Flames of War book and further plastic kits
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Dakka Veteran
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I know my buddy playing 6th airborne is gonna be happy with these plastic cromwells.
Sorry but battlefront can put out four plate shurzen plastic panzer IVs and they still win. Like I said I actually play BG but BF new stuff is top notch.
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2014/10/23 20:17:08
Subject: News on next LW Flames of War book and further plastic kits
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Lieutenant General
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According to Wargames Illustrated the StuG will be released in November.
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'It is a source of constant consternation that my opponents cannot correlate their innate inferiority with their inevitable defeat. It would seem that stupidity is as eternal as war.'
- Nemesor Zahndrekh of the Sautekh Dynasty Overlord of the Crownworld of Gidrim |
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2014/10/24 00:17:23
Subject: News on next LW Flames of War book and further plastic kits
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The Main Man
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George Spiggott wrote:I'm hoping mid war is broken up into specific battles (which are not compatible) rather than the current set up split by campaign.
Just curious, but why would you prefer battle books over campaign books?
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2014/10/24 06:42:53
Subject: News on next LW Flames of War book and further plastic kits
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1st Lieutenant
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That would create a crazy number of books! I prefer the current format, and also love the idea of having different forces play each other.
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2014/10/25 01:18:24
Subject: News on next LW Flames of War book and further plastic kits
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Perfect Shot Dark Angels Predator Pilot
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Cool nice looking stuff
really loving BF's plastic infantry got their grenadiers and paratroopers
I really want the us stuff and possibly these British
oh man oh man oh man oh man
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2014/10/25 19:08:18
Subject: News on next LW Flames of War book and further plastic kits
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Fixture of Dakka
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Hordini wrote: George Spiggott wrote:I'm hoping mid war is broken up into specific battles (which are not compatible) rather than the current set up split by campaign.
Just curious, but why would you prefer battle books over campaign books?
Because Mid war is currently covers too wide a technology gap. Better to have self contained books for Stalingrad, Kursk, El Alamein and such.
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2014/10/25 21:47:31
Subject: News on next LW Flames of War book and further plastic kits
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Lieutenant General
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I would split North Africa along the lines that they've split the British lists in the book already (North Africa, Tunisia and Italy). I'm not familiar enough with Eastern Front to say how it should be divided, but it should be no more than three books max.
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'It is a source of constant consternation that my opponents cannot correlate their innate inferiority with their inevitable defeat. It would seem that stupidity is as eternal as war.'
- Nemesor Zahndrekh of the Sautekh Dynasty Overlord of the Crownworld of Gidrim |
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2014/10/26 05:46:02
Subject: News on next LW Flames of War book and further plastic kits
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The Main Man
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Ghaz wrote:I would split North Africa along the lines that they've split the British lists in the book already (North Africa, Tunisia and Italy). I'm not familiar enough with Eastern Front to say how it should be divided, but it should be no more than three books max.
North Africa actually is already divided into North Africa, Tunisia, and Italy sections. But I agree that they could split them up and go into more depth on each campaign with OOBs for more specific battles (Gazala, El Alamein, Kasserine Pass, Monte Cassino, etc.)
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2014/10/26 16:43:25
Subject: News on next LW Flames of War book and further plastic kits
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Lieutenant General
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The German forces in [i]North Africa [i]do not have a division between their African and Tunisian lists. That is one of the biggest complaints I see on Battlefront's forums about the book.
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'It is a source of constant consternation that my opponents cannot correlate their innate inferiority with their inevitable defeat. It would seem that stupidity is as eternal as war.'
- Nemesor Zahndrekh of the Sautekh Dynasty Overlord of the Crownworld of Gidrim |
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2014/10/27 03:55:28
Subject: News on next LW Flames of War book and further plastic kits
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The Main Man
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Ghaz wrote:The German forces in North Africa do not have a division between their African and Tunisian lists. That is one of the biggest complaints I see on Battlefront's forums about the book.
I just went and checked the North Africa design notes (I don't have my book with me unfortunately), and the Germans do have a division between North African and Tunisia/Italy units. The British have a division between North Africa, Tunisia, and Italy. Here's a link to the design notes.
In addition, they also mark units which are appropriate for different DAK and other German units, with separate markers for 21. Panzer, 15. Panzer, 90. Leichte Afrika-Division, 164. Leichte Afrika-Division, 10. Panzer and 334. Infanterie-Division.
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2014/10/27 04:39:04
Subject: News on next LW Flames of War book and further plastic kits
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Lieutenant General
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My bad. There's no division between the Tunisia and the Italy lists and seems to be brought up as one of the changes that players would like to see on the Battlefront forums.
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'It is a source of constant consternation that my opponents cannot correlate their innate inferiority with their inevitable defeat. It would seem that stupidity is as eternal as war.'
- Nemesor Zahndrekh of the Sautekh Dynasty Overlord of the Crownworld of Gidrim |
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2014/10/28 12:18:22
Subject: News on next LW Flames of War book and further plastic kits
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Fixture of Dakka
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Interesting to see so much consensus on this. Two to three 'big battle' books per campaign would be the way forward. I'd like to see the kind of division where Lees (for example) would be allowed their 'top tier' status in the desert war which the present books don't allow for.
Doing away with the mid war points values entirely may be the way to do this, splitting early war into essentially 'late-late' early war and early late war (but with catchier terms).
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2014/10/28 15:43:47
Subject: News on next LW Flames of War book and further plastic kits
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1st Lieutenant
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One of my friends advocates 4 time periods
Outbreak till Barbarossa
Barbarossa till Kursk
Kursk till market garden
MG to the end
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2014/10/28 15:59:26
Subject: News on next LW Flames of War book and further plastic kits
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Lieutenant General
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Reaver83 wrote:One of my friends advocates 4 time periods Outbreak till Barbarossa Barbarossa till Kursk Kursk till market garden MG to the end
I don't see Battlefront totally redoing how they've split up the war, so the problem with that is anything before Operation Barbarossa would be Early War and Kursk to Market Garden would cover both Mid and Late War. They just need a logical way to split up Mid War (1942 and 1943) instead of having them lumped all into one book. North Africa could be split from the start of 1942 to just before the United States entered the war with Operation Torch on 8 November 1942. If needed, they could split again at the invasion of Sicily or just fudge it and tell players to use the Late War Fortress Italy and Road to Rome compilations.
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2014/10/28 16:00:52
'It is a source of constant consternation that my opponents cannot correlate their innate inferiority with their inevitable defeat. It would seem that stupidity is as eternal as war.'
- Nemesor Zahndrekh of the Sautekh Dynasty Overlord of the Crownworld of Gidrim |
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2014/10/29 17:05:31
Subject: Re:News on next LW Flames of War book and further plastic kits
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Lieutenant General
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More information HERE on Battlefront's web site.
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'It is a source of constant consternation that my opponents cannot correlate their innate inferiority with their inevitable defeat. It would seem that stupidity is as eternal as war.'
- Nemesor Zahndrekh of the Sautekh Dynasty Overlord of the Crownworld of Gidrim |
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