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**Psienesis**

The Wise Dane wrote:

Oh well, in a few decades I can look back and feel old too. I don't know how I feel about that, actually.

That will happen to you anyway.

**ZebioLizard2**

I remember when Chaos was Chaos, rather then some sort of generic list that copied most of SM.

When Chaos lords could take psyker powers, when Daemon Princes were just when you had enough mutations.

When Chaos Plasma was stronger then Space Marine, but had the only instances of getting hot due to old age technology.

When we had Champions of Chaos, and if they died they could become imbued Skeleton Knights to continue their campaign of conquest.

**Iron_Captain**

Yeah, I read through some of those older codices.
The terrain-making parts were absolutely awesome!

**vipoid**

I remember when the main rulebook was the same size, but the rules were simple and concise enough that about half of it was some or all of the rules for each of the armies, plus some nice photos of each.

I remember even as late as 5th, there were suggestions for playing the army. Which at least gave the impression that fellow hobbyists might have been involved in writing the book.

I remember when the fluff was interesting.

**Verviedi**

I remember Void Whales.

**vipoid**

I remember when the GW website actually had articles about the armies, as opposed to being a £4000000 webstore.

**Nevelon**

I remember when there were stats for movement, willpower, cool, and intelligence.

**Verviedi**

vipoid wrote:
I remember when the GW website actually had articles about the armies, as opposed to being a £4000000 webstore.

Why can't I exalt this more?

**Murenius**

You guys sound like my grandma. Always that "things aren't what they used to be". Learn to live in the present, guys

**Happyjew**

Remember when Warhammer 40K had _______? Pepperidge Farm remembers.

**warspawned**

Murenius wrote:
You guys sound like my grandma. Always that "things aren't what they used to be". Learn to live in the present, guys

Never!

This could be a ridiculously long list. I remember when a Tactical Marine with a Bolter, Bolt Pistol, Frag and Krak Grenades was 33pts per model. The majority of points costs for units have decreased by about 40% since 2nd Edition and IMHO the amount of models you get on a table now for 1500-2000pts affects game play negatively if you have any sane amount of terrain on the table top. I remember when armies had customisable flavour, when missions weren't largely asinine affairs and when 'Forging a Narrative' happened as a natural consequence of more detailed game play rather than existing only as a vague concept ignored by the majority of players.

If I felt things were genuinely better with 40k/GW in general I'd be more than happy to say so but anyone who's played 40k across 3 to 5 editions will know things aren't better, they may still be relatively fun, just not as good subjectively or, indeed, objectively.

**toasteroven**

Happyjew wrote:
Remember when Warhammer 40K had _______? Pepperidge Farm remembers.

Ha! I know that reference was going to be made, at least once. It had to happen. Now, it has been done.

Anyhow

**PhillyT**

vipoid wrote:
I remember when the GW website actually had articles about the armies, as opposed to being a £4000000 webstore.

I sort of miss that a lot!

I do not miss the forum... which was awful.

**AegisGrimm**

I just remember when 40K was a ton more fun to play, paint, and model.

I believe it was the mid-90's to the early 2000's.

I'll take any part of editions 2nd through 4th, over the present. They absolutely all contained their own unique flavors of crap/broken, but the general "feel" around the hobby made up for that in spades. It was the point in time when the 40K universe was truly the richest. We had the golden age containing Warhammer 40K, Necromunda, Gorkamorka, all the editions of Epic (from Titan legions all the way to Epic: Armageddon), Battlefleet Gothic, Space Hulk, etc.

I swear, back then we were all like little kids with green plastic army men letting our imaginations and enthusiasm run hog wild. Now the modern community is.....well, not that at all.

We

Some of you need to go chase some kids off your lawn.

**Ghaz**

Verviedi wrote:
Remember when GW encouraged playing only one army?

Yes I do...

**Ruberu**

Yes, I remember 3rd and 4th. I remember actually having a community. Or having more than one store that stocked models and had tournaments. Have tournaments so large that the store need to rent out another place to play because the FLGS was too small to host a game with 70 people playing.

I remember Necrom warriors, immortals and monoliths being good. I remember the only flyers being a thunderbolt and ork bombers.

I remember Inquisitors in terminator armour. And Space Wolves with Leman Russes

I remember being excited when the new land raider came out, and the new rhino chassis before CAD.

I remember Andy Chambers and all his faults but his goods he brought to the game as well.

I remember 40k before Logan Claus and the Khorne mower...

**spunkybass**

I was just thumbing thru my 3rd ed IG codex to look for references of classic-style painting for IG tanks. That was a pretty thin codex. But it was packed with all kinds of fun. I particularly like the army highlight in that book - it was a Cadian army (the metal ones) showcase on a Stalingrad-inspired table. That was pretty awesome.

**Swastakowey**

spunkybass wrote:
I was just thumbing thru my 3rd ed IG codex to look for references of classic-style painting for IG tanks. That was a pretty thin codex. But it was packed with all kinds of fun. I particularly like the army highlight in that book - it was a Cadian army (the metal ones) showcase on a Stalingrad-inspired table. That was pretty awesome.

Best GW codex ever in my opinion.

I personally like the page with all the different regiments shown and a little fluff on each one. Also the letter from a Guardsmen also is a cool page in that book.

**Nevelon**

We wrote:
Some of you need to go chase some kids off your lawn.

I can surf Dakka on my iPad while sitting on my porch, keeping an eye on the lawn, waiting for the pesky kids. As for chaseing them off, I'm sure there is an app for that.

Who says us old folk can't use technology?

I do get a chuckle about people refering to the "old" days of 4th edition though.

**Vaktathi**

vipoid wrote:
I remember when the GW website actually had articles about the armies, as opposed to being a £4000000 webstore.

Right?

They had tons of fluff and background stuff, PDF's for all sorts of things, and more.

Unfortunately now, it's just a lame webstore, a badly organized and poorly laid out one at that.

**Thud**

PhillyT wrote:
vipoid wrote:
I remember when the GW website actually had articles about the armies, as opposed to being a £4000000 webstore.

I sort of miss that a lot!

I do not miss the forum... which was awful.

They had some redeeming features, though. Like talking to the studio guys, and the Stealth Marines.

**Pouncey**

I remember when I was such a newb that after going up against my first Ork-playing opponent, I thought that all flamethrower weapons could be used as power weapons in melee. : D

**morgoth**

Remember when they started cranking out beautiful vehicles with the proper scale and made of styrene ?

Remember when they replaced the single pose gakky base units with models you could assemble in any pose you wanted ?

Remember when they broke the barrier between 40K and FW so that people could one day play their favorite huge models ?

Remember when they failed that and tried again by adding beautiful big robots to 40K ?

Remember when they accelerated improvement on their rulesets while also simplifying the rules ?

Remember when, for the first time ever, there was not a single codex outdated by 2+ game editions ? (it's going to happen soon)

Remember when GW realized people needed better tools and created a drybrush paintbrush, the washes, and then more ?

Remember when GW got rid of Baron Sathonyx, when that model would've sold thousands ?

Remember when GW tried to improve on white metal and failed miserably ?

Remember when GW managed for the first time ever to balance 5 armies against each other ?

**The Wise Dane**

Pouncey wrote:
I remember when I was such a newb that after going up against my first Ork-playing opponent, I thought that all flamethrower weapons could be used as power weapons in melee. : D

Wow, the flamer would be even more deadly when charged then!

**Makumba**

Remember when they accelerated improvement on their rulesets while also simplifying the rules ?

When did they do that?

Remember when GW managed for the first time ever to balance 5 armies against each other ?

They did it all the time in 4, 5 and 6th. They just balanced them in being bad.

**ZebioLizard2**

I remember 40k before Logan Claus and the Khorne mower...

So you never played Epic I take it?

**chocmushroom**

Nevelon wrote:
I remember when there were stats for movement, willpower, cool, and intelligence.

Wow, I also remember these days, so I will carry on with this.

I remember when you needed to pass a CL (Cool) test to overcome fear
I remember when you needed to pass a WP (willpower) test to overcopme a psychic power.
I remember when you had virus grenades, (which could wipe out half my ork army if they stood to close)
I remember before Orks had found squigs
I remeber when you could buy 'Frog Grenades' (Slaves to Darkness typo)
I remember when you had to roll for how your ork mek wepons worked each battle.
I remember when the number of Orks which could ride in a battlewagon were how many you could fit inside it.
I remember when orks could get weapons other than basic guns and rockits.
I remember a time before Terminator armour existed! (but only just)

**Crimson Devil**

I remember when I was a White Knight....

I don't miss that.

**triplegrim**

I remember third edition, which is what I got in at. It is quite much the same as 7th if you ask me. I dont miss the painting sections of the army books, it always seemed so toylike.

What I DO remember best is Grey knights being in the daemonhunter codex, and obsessing over them to the point of reading about them in bed to my gfs frustration.