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The 40k Daemon one is interesting (or I missed it being released in August), adding a special rule to the Blood Thrones...

 warboss wrote:

 reds8n wrote:
.. wonder then if we might see a repackaged starter set just with the new rules ?

It's what they did for 40k right ?

Pretty much as long as you include "borrowing" magic from WHFB.

I'm hoping they go a bit further into the WFB style system next edition around. Instead of the hybrid X or more 4+ rolls on dice, just go straight casting values. Have Deny the Witch work close to dispell in Fantasy, with psykers adding their level to the total if they are targeted, Adamantium Will granting an extra die for dispell attempts for powers targeting that unit. And make generation of dice scalable, say d6 per a full 1000 points of playing.

Already heard people saying that since the Legion of Undead isn't mentioned in these FAQs that means they're an optional campaign thing and not official.


Sigh.

Can anyone download the Dark Eldar FAQs? Doesn't seem to work when I download it :(. I wanna know what they've changed in iBooks

 Micky wrote:
Already heard people saying that since the Legion of Undead isn't mentioned in these FAQs that means they're an optional campaign thing and not official.

That would be my assumption too ... as well as my preference

- Salvage

 Boss Salvage wrote:

 Micky wrote:
Already heard people saying that since the Legion of Undead isn't mentioned in these FAQs that means they're an optional campaign thing and not official.

That would be my assumption too ... as well as my preference

- Salvage

It may be your preference, but the Nagash book has the campaign rules and the Undead Legion rules as very clearly separate sections.

 angelofvengeance wrote:
Can anyone download the Dark Eldar FAQs? Doesn't seem to work when I download it :(. I wanna know what they've changed in iBooks

Just add .pdf to the end of the URL for the DE link and it works.

It is very, very minimal though (just two minor errata).

 angelofvengeance wrote:
Can anyone download the Dark Eldar FAQs? Doesn't seem to work when I download it :(. I wanna know what they've changed in iBooks

They forgot to add .pdf to the link

Absolutely nothing exciting for DE. one wording change, and making sure the Wych can take the Archite glaive and the [strike]electrocorrosive whip[/strike] agonizer like the model comes with.

So what does it say about super heavy walkers? My computer is not cooperating with me since the last adobe update. Do they ignore terrain now? Also anyone know what changed about the tau?

 chiefbigredman wrote:

 Maelstrom808 wrote:
Too bad all official non-iDevice sources of the Lore of Undeath are out of print already.

Can you buy just the lore of undeath spells for iPad? Because it said find it on the gw website and I see it not lol you can probably find someone online who posted the spells just typed out (I remember reading them somewhere)

As for the 50% lords and 50% heroes I garuntee that my hobby store won't use it. At least not for a while until he informs everyone of the update.

Reading comprehension fail.

Wow, the tau faq goes directly against how the damn shooting rules and markerlight rules work.

Wood elf FAQ links to the old September version, it looks like?

 Orock wrote:
So what does it say about super heavy walkers? My computer is not cooperating with me since the last adobe update. Do they ignore terrain now? Also anyone know what changed about the tau?

When moving through DT, you just double whatever the best result you roll is for the DT test (giving you a move of between 2-12").

For the Tau they 'clarified' that if a Tau unit fires a blast weapon at a unit and gains the ignore cover ability from markerlights, but the blast then scatters onto another unit, the ignore cover rule does not apply to that new unit...which of course then leads to the new question of whether or not a 2nd (or 3rd, etc) unit covered by a blast that doesn't scatter benefits from the ignore cover bonus or not. It is a terrible ruling as written as it breaks the RAW as a FAQ (should be an errata) and then doesn't give enough info so it leaves a bunch of ambiguity.

 yakface wrote:
For the Tau they 'clarified' that if a Tau unit fires a blast weapon at a unit and gains the ignore cover ability from markerlights, but the blast then scatters onto another unit, the ignore cover rule does not apply to that new unit...which of course then leads to the new question of whether or not a 2nd (or 3rd, etc) unit covered by a blast that doesn't scatter benefits from the ignore cover bonus or not. It is a terrible ruling as written as it breaks the RAW as a FAQ (should be an errata) and then doesn't give enough info so it leaves a bunch of ambiguity.

I had to read what you wrote 2-3 times because the entire situation is confusingly screwy.

 Maelstrom808 wrote:
Too bad all official non-iDevice sources of the Lore of Undeath are out of print already.

Wait was the end times book a limited release it didn't say that anywhere so assumed it would be available for some time I was saving up for it. Is there any official word as to if it will be available again at some point?

 Platuan4th wrote:
It may be your preference, but the Nagash book has the campaign rules and the Undead Legion rules as very clearly separate sections.

Sooooo I gather you're saying there's more rules support for Undead Legion being an 'official' playable army, rather than the reverse? You'll have to forgive me, I don't own End Times: Nagash nor have I had the opportunity to read it. All I personally have to go on is my aversion to non-armybook armies in tournament play (looking at you too, Chaos Dwarfs) ...
- Salvage

Ugh. The 40k FAQs are more insulting than they are useful.

Was anyone actually asking that 'frequently asked question' about Tau? No - because the rules are actually quite clear, and now they've changed it to make it less clear! Yet they still haven't answered the question plaguing Tau since they day of their release - can you fire 2 or more weapons on overwatch?

Similarly for Daemons - who was actually wanting two additional bloodletter attacks on the vehicle you never take?

And in the rulebook they don't answer the multitude of actual questions people have. The Super-Heavy Walker one is a nice errata (yay! make Imperial Knights even more powerful!) but there are still dozens of questions which are more pressing.

The 50% Hero and Lord allows drops the amount of models needed to start get an army on the table. For all those people who say its just an excuse to sell large kits, why can't you just fill the extra points with single models. My vampire counts is going to enjoy taking more vampires and necromancers. Also the version of hero hammer was caused by the crazy magic item combinations that could be made. With the smaller item lists and the rules to units being steadfast, I don't think those days are coming back.

I know I am kind of nagging but I really would like to know will the nagash book be available again, the description in the web site gave no indication it would be a limited time release.

 BlackRaven1987!! wrote:
I know I am kind of nagging but I really would like to know will the nagash book be available again, the description in the web site gave no indication it would be a limited time release.

Word is that a softcover version is coming soon.

 BlackRaven1987!! wrote:
I know I am kind of nagging but I really would like to know will the nagash book be available again, the description in the web site gave no indication it would be a limited time release.

No one really know but it been "out of stock" or " no longer available" for a week or 2 for me

I don't want to sound nasty but it seems now that every Army Book/Codex is riddled with massive errors.

I believe that GW should be forced into a massive recall on their Army Books/Codexes books until these stupid mistakes are eradicated.

Also I just can't believe that after coming up with the rules, then battle testing them over and over again, submitting them to codex/army book then proof reading them to give final clearance,
then send them off to the printers and then get them back from China 6 months prior to release, then send them to the distribution centres 3 months prior to release, and finally then releasing them onto the market
then they finally discover the mistakes after they make a fortune on those defective books and all they do is offer a small page FAQ sheet/s.

This to me is fraud.

 yakface wrote:
For the Tau they 'clarified' that if a Tau unit fires a blast weapon at a unit and gains the ignore cover ability from markerlights, but the blast then scatters onto another unit, the ignore cover rule does not apply to that new unit...which of course then leads to the new question of whether or not a 2nd (or 3rd, etc) unit covered by a blast that doesn't scatter benefits from the ignore cover bonus or not. It is a terrible ruling as written as it breaks the RAW as a FAQ (should be an errata) and then doesn't give enough info so it leaves a bunch of ambiguity.

I'll go as I did before: the Scour ability is more of a 'debuff' to the unit previously marked (and from whom you used the 2 markers to use Scour) than a 'buff' to your weapons. Seems like RAI to me.

 Vector Strike wrote:

I'll go as I did before: the Scour ability is more of a 'debuff' to the unit previously marked (and from whom you used the 2 markers to use Scour) than a 'buff' to your weapons. Seems like RAI to me.

I can totally get behind that errata if they wanted to make it (because it makes sense), but:

A) It should have been an errata.
B) If it was presented as a FAQ like this, then the question should have been about if a blast simply 'covers' a 2nd unit. By adding the bit about the blast scattering into the mix, it adds all kind of ambiguity.

 streamdragon wrote:

 chiefbigredman wrote:

 Maelstrom808 wrote:
Too bad all official non-iDevice sources of the Lore of Undeath are out of print already.

Can you buy just the lore of undeath spells for iPad? Because it said find it on the gw website and I see it not lol you can probably find someone online who posted the spells just typed out (I remember reading them somewhere)

As for the 50% lords and 50% heroes I garuntee that my hobby store won't use it. At least not for a while until he informs everyone of the update.

Reading comprehension fail.

Uh sorry but how is that a fail?
I asked if you can buy it for iPad because it doesn't show that I can from the Canadian gw website on my iPad. I think that it was a valid question as to where to get it.

Trasvi wrote:
Ugh. The 40k FAQs are more insulting than they are useful.
Was anyone actually asking that 'frequently asked question' about Tau? No - because the rules are actually quite clear, and now they've changed it to make it less clear! Yet they still haven't answered the question plaguing Tau since they day of their release - can you fire 2 or more weapons on overwatch?

Why wouldn't they be able to? I'm not seeing the single weapon fired restriction in the 7th ed. version of Overwatch.

I can't help but feel this is the start of ruining WHFB like they did 40k, "WHFB: 9th edition, the one where we feth it up to sell more models!".

AllSeeingSkink wrote:
I can't help but feel this is the start of ruining WHFB like they did 40k, "WHFB: 9th edition, the one where we feth it up to sell more models!".

How would increasing lord choices to 50% and hero choices to 50% make them sell more models?
Wouldn't they sell less models because people would be using less core and special choices? bigger more expensive lord models maybe...but not more models lol

AllSeeingSkink wrote:
"WHFB: 8th edition, the one where we feth it up to sell more models!".

Fixed your post.

Mavnas wrote:

Trasvi wrote:
Ugh. The 40k FAQs are more insulting than they are useful.
Was anyone actually asking that 'frequently asked question' about Tau? No - because the rules are actually quite clear, and now they've changed it to make it less clear! Yet they still haven't answered the question plaguing Tau since they day of their release - can you fire 2 or more weapons on overwatch?

Why wouldn't they be able to? I'm not seeing the single weapon fired restriction in the 7th ed. version of Overwatch.

There was never a single weapon restriction in overwatch.
The language of overwatch is "An Overwatch attack is resolved like a normal shooting attack (albeit one resolved in the enemy’s Assault phase) and uses all the normal rules for range, line of sight, cover saves and so on"

The language of Monstrous Creatures, and Tau Multi-trackers, is "A model with a multi-tracker can fire an additional weapon in each Shooting phase." ie, not Assault Phase. But does a 'normal shooting attack' include all of the things that you would get when shooting normally in the shooting phase? What really is a 'normal' shooting attack? s a shooting attack made in the assault phase resolved like a shooting attack in the shooting phase? Does 'and so on' Why on earth is there a 'and so on' phrase in a rulebook??

I don't want to get in to a debate about it here - it has been hashed out many times in YMDC. But it has been a frequently asked question for two years and we're no closer to getting an actual answer, while the FAQ team does useless stuff like adding special rules to models no-one will use.