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What scale terrain goes with 1/144?

N-scale if you mean model-train terms.

 Daba wrote:
Very interested but hesitant. I also already own a North and South force, too so probably wouldn't need the new figures...

I'm in the same boat. I've got both polar and Nucoal forces so I'm basically waiting on the fence until the Caprice stuff is unlocked by the fine folks posting in this thread at which point I'll go in for $1 plus add ons in the pledge manager phase.

 Alpharius wrote:
What scale terrain goes with 1/144?

Technically N Scale railroad stuff but DZC at 10mm works well enough with 12mm HG. There are some pics in the battle report gallery below.

http://www.dakkadakka.com/gallery/images-1478-36825_Hg%20Interpolar%20War%201.html

DZC terrain looks to work quite well!

Thanks!

BrandonKF wrote:

Catyrpelius wrote:No thanks I like this forum... Plus from what I've read its more active then their own.
Crowdfunding doesn't mean that people should blindly throw money at a company that obviously isn't ready to use it.
Choice of plastic has a lot more impact to the production process then just how hard the models are. Plastic choice is going to effect a lot of things and really needs to be taken into account when the models are first sculpted. There are things you can get away with using one type of plastic that you can't get away with using another.

You haven't visited the DP9 forums then. So I can say honestly that you don't realize that the fans are asking questions and making suggestions, and the company is listening.
No, crowdfunding isn't blindly throwing your money at the company. It is an investment in the future of the company and the community. This community wants to grow.

er, I think people being allowed to have discussions about a company outside of the company's own forums is healthier in the long run for a game and it's associated setting.

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Not being sure RIGHT NOW about what the material will be, or maybe even where it is going to be made?, well, that pretty much guarantees that this one will be significantly late.

(Aside from the "duh...Kickstarter!" excuse too! )

Not that that's a huge surprise, and it probably won't put off many, especially if the 'deal is too good to pass up' level is reached...

Grizzlies unlocked.
Second Stretch Goal, Spitting Cobras, unlocked!

Current level now sitting at $40k.

The current reward levels for Core Starter Set:



The current progress on the Stretch Goal tracker:




As of right now the question of what material has been addressed on the DP9 Feedback forum by several forumites, and the general thought is to look at styrene as the most probable material to be used.

Styrene as "Most probable"? Doesn't sound confirmed to me.

Now standing at 44k. Do I see an Earther hovertank on the horizon?

Edit: 45,000. MHT-95s just appeared.

 Alpharius wrote:

What was the reason behind the scale change?

They changed the model size when they changed the combat scale from one squad (~5 gears) per player to multiple squads, plus infantry, tanks, etc. The larger models they wanted to add to the game were prohibitively expensive in the old scale. It seems to be the natural progression of wargames to want to support larger and larger battles.

I'll be keeping an eye on this. I don`t know yet how much the nastalgia is worth.

 Galen wrote:

 Alpharius wrote:

What was the reason behind the scale change?

They changed the model size when they changed the combat scale from one squad (~5 gears) per player to multiple squads, plus infantry, tanks, etc. The larger models they wanted to add to the game were prohibitively expensive in the old scale. It seems to be the natural progression of wargames to want to support larger and larger battles.

I'll be keeping an eye on this. I don`t know yet how much the nastalgia is worth.

The old RAFM gears at the larger scale were very affordable IIRC at $4-7 each. The switchover from lead to non-lead metals though may have had a hand in the decision at it occurred in the industry at that time.

I couldn't speculate what caused the switch from the old RAFM models, but right now the funding stands at 48,000, and I thought I would share the latest 3D render of the MHT-95. Compared to the current HT-72, the 95 will be shorter by about 11mm.

Here are some attached pics.

I also attached a historical timeline for the world for those who aren't familiar with the game's history.

I'm not a fan of the new tank design as it doesn't fit the redesigned resin ones or the HHT. I'm curious if the caprice stuff will stray far from the existing versions as well.

If I had to wager, no. The Mounts already cover four legs and six legs. The largest was the still-unseen Orion, and that eight-legged monstrosity was from the Humanist Alliance. The Acco is great, but switching the Caprice models to plastic will definitely save a few folks' wallets from tears.

 warboss wrote:
I'm not a fan of the new tank design as it doesn't fit the redesigned resin ones or the HHT. I'm curious if the caprice stuff will stray far from the existing versions as well.

The turret is similar, I guess. I have more of a problem with a CEF vehicle completely reliant on ammo, though.

 warboss wrote:

 Galen wrote:

 Alpharius wrote:

What was the reason behind the scale change?

They changed the model size when they changed the combat scale from one squad (~5 gears) per player to multiple squads, plus infantry, tanks, etc. The larger models they wanted to add to the game were prohibitively expensive in the old scale. It seems to be the natural progression of wargames to want to support larger and larger battles.

I'll be keeping an eye on this. I don`t know yet how much the nastalgia is worth.

The old RAFM gears at the larger scale were very affordable IIRC at $4-7 each. The switchover from lead to non-lead metals though may have had a hand in the decision at it occurred in the industry at that time.

My understanding was that the scale change was made on account of switching from lead. Large non-lead figures were deemed too expensive.

 Albertorius wrote:

 warboss wrote:
I'm not a fan of the new tank design as it doesn't fit the redesigned resin ones or the HHT. I'm curious if the caprice stuff will stray far from the existing versions as well.

The turret is similar, I guess. I have more of a problem with a CEF vehicle completely reliant on ammo, though.

That is a good point. I'm ok with the railgun seeing as how they tend to rely on V in the kinetic energy 0.5M*V^2 equation but the others seem odd. Maybe this signifies another massive fluff change and now Paxton will overtake the CEF as the energy weapon specialist?

I didn't realize the scale change was so drastic, but I'll be frank here:

I'd have never looked at the game at that larger scale. Ever.

 cincydooley wrote:
I didn't realize the scale change was so drastic, but I'll be frank here:

I'd have never looked at the game at that larger scale. Ever.

When it was at that scale, it was a tabletop companion game to the RPG so most games involved a half dozen or so max models per side and tracked individual component damage like hits to fire control systems and such. As I said above, at $4-7 per gear, it was very affordable to me on my part time college student job paycheck.

Well, they just passed 51,000.

So that is FLAILS being added to the Core Starter Set.

For those who need more information and background on Heavy Gear, here is a Wiki with a good deal of near-current information regarding the setting.

http://hgwiki.net/Main_Page

The wiki was made for Heavy Gear Assault, but it can help anyone interested in any one of the three endeavors.

warboss wrote: Maybe this signifies another massive fluff change and now Paxton will overtake the CEF as the energy weapon specialist?

Please no.

 Firebreak wrote:

warboss wrote: Maybe this signifies another massive fluff change and now Paxton will overtake the CEF as the energy weapon specialist?

Please no.

This we do not have to worry about. Since technically speaking, a 3-5 million GREL force kind of outweighs the 40 or 50,000 the PRDF employs.

Edit: And yeah, Peace River was one city-state of only a couple hundred thousand. I am fudging somewhat in favor of outlying colonies, towns and homesteads.

For some reason this KS is getting to me, I may actully pledge for it and break my nearly decade-long boycott of DP9. Even with undoubtedly significant delays we're going to see in this KS, it looks like this may turn into a too good to pass up deal

It's not helping that there is so much other great 10mm stuff out and on the horizon, between cheap Clicky-battletech, DZC, HG, and the incoming Spartan Games Planetfall, it's becoming hard to ignore 10mm.

It's also hard to ignore all the great secondary products that exist for 10mm/ N-scale / 1/144th. Not just the DZC terrain set (which is fantastic!), somebody in the KS comments suggested the Tomytec train line, a company I'd never heard of. Tomytec makes 1/150 buildings and vehicles for modern-day, which is hard to find in american N-scale (mostly 1950s and '60s style), and it's dirt cheap if ordered from Japanese scources! There's also a lot of Gundam and not-gundam accessories and sets in 1/144th that are very expensive in 1/100 or just plain don't exist. I like 15mm sci-fi because the troopers are more detailed, but more and more stuff is coming out in 10mm and the terrain/accessories is much more affordable.

BrandonKF wrote:
Well, they just passed 51,000.

So that is FLAILS being added to the Core Starter Set.

For those who need more information and background on Heavy Gear, here is a Wiki with a good deal of near-current information regarding the setting.

http://hgwiki.net/Main_Page

The wiki was made for Heavy Gear Assault, but it can help anyone interested in any one of the three endeavors.

Heavy Gear Assault?

Is that some other variation of the HG game?

Is it still going to be supported?

And is there a chance that a decent game comes from this KS?

Heavy Gear Assault is an online multiplayer arena-based game that may or may not ever actually launch, though it's well into alpha testing at the moment. It was plagued by a (two) failed kickstarters, one of which had ridiculous, unreasonable goals and next to no information. Dream Pod 9's marketing guy left to go help things with Heavy Gear Assault, and it's helped, but the Pod has suffered for it.

So there will, potentially, be three seperate companies making Heavy Gear games. The tabletop wargame made by Dream Pod 9, the tabletop RGP made by Arkrite, and the computer game made by.... is it StompyBot? MekTek? What are they calling themselves at this point? Anyway, for those of us keeping score at home, the new RPG will actually be the third (or technically fourth) version of the lore. There was Heavy Gear 2, later retconned to be a dramatic retelling of events. There were the Storyline books, which continued past HG2 but were mostly ignored after a certain point in future work. There's Blitz!, which has been a stop-start mess with several semi-abortive attempts at the War for Terra Nova. And now the RPG, which apparently will reset things back in time, as well as alter things.

Outside of that, there's the TV show, which was also turned into an "extreme reality TV show" in-setting, and who knows how or where Heavy Gear Assault will fit in?

As to this Kick starter producing a good game? Who knows. It's attracting money like flies to a meat plant - for now. But that doesn't mean the money will get used well, or to produce anything better than what's come out in the past few years.

More importantly, there's no guarantee that whatever DOES come of this KS, will last or be supported for more than a year or two before the next change.

 Firebreak wrote:
As to this Kick starter producing a good game? Who knows. It's attracting money like flies to a meat plant - for now. But that doesn't mean the money will get used well, or to produce anything better than what's come out in the past few years.

More importantly, there's no guarantee that whatever DOES come of this KS, will last or be supported for more than a year or two before the next change.

I thought they were just making figures for Blitz! Has anyone played it? How is it as far as a miniatures game?

Breotan wrote:I thought they were just making figures for Blitz! Has anyone played it? How is it as far as a miniatures game?

That remains to be seen. This KS is just for models, but they launched it in the middle of trying to make a new rules set. Which has kind of been backburner'd in favour of plastics, with the suggestion that, if this is successful, they'll make the rules after, possibly with another KS.

As to the game in it's current state..... there's a lot of discussion here and on Dream Pod 9's forum. Best to make your own judgements.

 Breotan wrote:

 Firebreak wrote:
As to this Kick starter producing a good game? Who knows. It's attracting money like flies to a meat plant - for now. But that doesn't mean the money will get used well, or to produce anything better than what's come out in the past few years.

More importantly, there's no guarantee that whatever DOES come of this KS, will last or be supported for more than a year or two before the next change.

I thought they were just making figures for Blitz! Has anyone played it? How is it as far as a miniatures game?

http://rpg.drivethrustuff.com/product/133719/Heavy-Gear-Blitz-Tabletop-Wargaming--Beta-Rules?filters=0_0_10108_0_0

It's in beta and going through roughly monthly changes (although I think that is slowing down now to every 3 months). It has some issues but as stated above it is probably best to make your own opinion about it since the download is free.

Had no idea the rules were available for free - thanks!

So, Blitz! is the main game here, with support going forward?

That is correct, Alpharius.

With new players the open Beta can be fully fleshed out, and more importantly, played so that the final rulebook can be completed with options for tactics that folks can easily grasp. Trying to cut off some of the ties that Blitz held with the original RPG, so to speak.

While Heavy Gears are the 'bread-and-butter' of the game setting, the game is really trying to encompass it's combined arms aspect as well.

The new army building rules were shared in a recent update here: