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Orks will teleport half of the Marvel population into the sun, 40k wins.
By half of the population, I mean the lower half, because orks like trophy .
Now you get an Ork wearing Deadpool's mask.

 Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:
Orks will teleport half of the Marvel population into the sun, 40k wins.
By half of the population, I mean the lower half, because orks like trophy .
Now you get an Ork wearing Deadpool's mask.

That is, assuming, the tellyporta works proppa! And doesn't just tellyport them a few feet to the left! (or explode)

I think if the tellyporta tellyport the lower half of almost every Marvel hero a few feet on the left, that will still leave injuries significant enough to cause death. Wolverine will not be bothered, as usual, but he will be enslaved by Dark Eldars, so he will wish he died.

 Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:
I think if the tellyporta tellyport the lower half of almost every Marvel hero a few feet on the left, that will still leave injuries significant enough to cause death. Wolverine will not be bothered, as usual, but he will be enslaved by Dark Eldars, so he will wish he died.

More than likely true! But good thing for the Marvel-verse it's the Astartes and not Orks or Dark Eldar invading!

Oh. Marines suck. The punisher will eat the chapter master for breakfast and then use his gun.

Psienesis wrote:
Superman could just, you know, throw a Gothic-class cruiser into the Sun. Over and over again.

In fairness, Supes could annihilate every Marvel character easily too, as DC and Marvel have a pretty huge power level discrepancy.

 Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:
Oh. Marines suck. The punisher will eat the chapter master for breakfast and then use his gun.

Correction, he will eat the CM, take his gun, IMPROVE it, THEN use it ^_^

Old man Fury would have a PARTAY with all of his Life Model Decoys.

And if we want to play the almighty power game, the Beyonder. Love to see how much the 40k universe would sacrifice in order to stop the Beyonder. Lol, maybe the necrons put back together one or a few C'tan?

So many crazies out there in the Marvel 'verse that this thread could (hopefully) go on forever.

But guys like Punisher, Daredevil, etc? They're still just human. A human with a gun is effectively a Guardsman. S3, T3. With some of the training they've got sure give them higher WS and BS. But they're still ultimately human. Due to their autosenses Daredevil doesn't even have that much real benefit over a Space Marine.

Captain America is nothing more than a specimen of HUMAN perfection. While he is certainly above and beyond regular human capability, he's still nowhere near as physically capable or powerful as a Space Marine who are literally superhuman. Captain America has an unbreakable shield. Space Marines have ridiculously tough body armour.
And we know what Adeptus Astartes can do to humans.

Black Widow and Hawkeye? Callidus and Vindicare assassins, except without the body modifications or fanaticism. AKA weaker.

Iron Man is simply an Assault Marine, albeit with additional armament at the expense of any military discipline or training whatsoever.

The Hulk? Give or take a step up on a Daemon Prince. Admittedly he could do some serious damage to an Astartes force.

Thor I would put on par with a Librarian. Excellent at beating things to death, devastatingly powerful weapon, superhuman physique, and ability to blast his foes with lightning/warp powers. Sound about right?

Also, this:

 reiner wrote:
God, I'd love to shunt the Hulk into the Eye of Terror and see what comes out.

When it comes to psykers and the warp; Firstly, we can just assume in a merger that the Marvel heroes use powers other than the warp for their telepathy and lightning and what-not, especially since so many of them are mutations and therefore have a perfect reason not to use outside access to warp energy for their powers. Absolutely the guys like Xavier and Magneto and the Ice Queen would do devastating damage. But Magneto and Xavier have to sleep. They don't have invulnerable bodies either. Plus things like enemy psykers and the adamantine will special rules totally work against any kind of mind control/power/etc so they'd apply. An orbital bombardment of any kind could end those three no trouble at all, and Space Marines excel at pinpoint strikes.

Space Marines are the ones that get called in by local planetary authorities and the Guard to deal with specific threats like this. In fact from the fluff Space Marines are designed and trained to deal with threats like superheroes. Individuals with greater than usual levels of power are still individuals. Space Marines have to deal with Chaos Space Marines, Renegades, Chaos Psykers, Daemon Princes (Shadow King and Tzeentch, or maybe Shadow King is Be'lakor? Anyone?) all the time. They're better equipped to do the fast-insertion tactical strikes and take out key targets than they are to deal with a heavy slogging war.

On top of all of this don't forget the level of indoctrination all Space Marines undergo. They don't feel doubt or fear. ALL of Marvel's heroes do doubt themselves, their teams, or their reasons for fighting one point or another, and while for sure some marvel heroes are willing to die for the cause, most of them will be too busy trying to survive. Whereas Space Marines don't. fear. death. Only failure.
Plus, Space Marines would have the perfect reason to fight; Earth doesn't live under the Emperor's rule or light. Whereas those resisting the Space Marines are effectively fighting versus a force trying to install Law and Order, forces and causes MANY of Marvel's heroes stand for. Who's to say some of the Marvel characters wouldn't sign up with the Marines?
And Space Marines don't just give up. If beaten back, they'll call in reinforcements and have another go, escalating the level of attack. Space Marines aren't like Marvel villains who can be demoralized or beaten into submission. They won't stop until they're ALL dead or they win.

Plus, part of the reason Marvel heroes always win is they team up. Outnumber to overpower your opponent and you've got him beat. Think of all the movies and comics; in the big group fights with multiple powerful foes, Marvel heroes tend to get their butts handed to them and have to regroup before fighting back. This is one of those situations, except the SM would press the attack 'cause they know better.

Space Marines would have the planet under their control (or, worst case, launch an exterminatus) within 1 year.

 Laughingcarp wrote:

Iron Man is simply an Assault Marine, albeit with additional armament at the expense of any military discipline or training whatsoever.

The Hulk? Give or take a step up on a Daemon Prince. Admittedly he could do some serious damage to an Astartes force.

Thor I would put on par with a Librarian. Excellent at beating things to death, devastatingly powerful weapon, superhuman physique, and ability to blast his foes with lightning/warp powers. Sound about right?

Everything else but these three are alright.

Iron Man is not going to be a jump unit. He's essentially an actual zooming Infantry Unit that can move at hypersonic speeds exceeding Mach 13 with a mounted Destroyer Weapons in the form of full-force Unibeam that can just punch through an entire mountain.

Hulk all depends on anger really. But I've yet to see a Daemon Prince move a tectonic plate back together or exchange a punch so powerful it did this to the world they're on: http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/7/78977/2500510-hulk_planet.jpg That's Hulk and Red She-Hulk exchanging a blow. And they proceeded to keep fighting afterwards.

Thor is almost always above the Hulk when fighting seriously. And that includes the shockwaves of his weapon destroying mountaintops, accidentally destroying a planet by missing the Phoenix Force when trying to strike it, massively faster than light travel as shown against Gorr in the span of a few seconds, surviving planetary explosions and walking inside the Sun, Magic weapon that can absorb an entropy bomb intended to destroy every god in the past, present, and future. Negate magic that gives Juggernaut his powers, etc.

Pretty sure Thor is much greater than a Librarian. Not when he's gone up against Glory, Mikaboshi, or Gorr.

On top of all of this don't forget the level of indoctrination all Space Marines undergo. They don't feel doubt or fear

There's a very large number of Renegade Marines that would beg to differ, including an entire Space Wolf detachment.

Deadpool wins.

I think Captain America with his shield would be a fair match up for a space marine without armour.

 reiner wrote:
God, I'd love to shunt the Hulk into the Eye of Terror and see what comes out.

Draigo.

 Lou_Cypher wrote:

 Laughingcarp wrote:

Iron Man is simply an Assault Marine, albeit with additional armament at the expense of any military discipline or training whatsoever.

The Hulk? Give or take a step up on a Daemon Prince. Admittedly he could do some serious damage to an Astartes force.

Thor I would put on par with a Librarian. Excellent at beating things to death, devastatingly powerful weapon, superhuman physique, and ability to blast his foes with lightning/warp powers. Sound about right?

Everything else but these three are alright.

Iron Man is not going to be a jump unit. He's essentially an actual zooming Infantry Unit that can move at hypersonic speeds exceeding Mach 13 with a mounted Destroyer Weapons in the form of full-force Unibeam that can just punch through an entire mountain.

Hulk all depends on anger really. But I've yet to see a Daemon Prince move a tectonic plate back together or exchange a punch so powerful it did this to the world they're on: http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/7/78977/2500510-hulk_planet.jpg That's Hulk and Red She-Hulk exchanging a blow. And they proceeded to keep fighting afterwards.

Thor is almost always above the Hulk when fighting seriously. And that includes the shockwaves of his weapon destroying mountaintops, accidentally destroying a planet by missing the Phoenix Force when trying to strike it, massively faster than light travel as shown against Gorr in the span of a few seconds, surviving planetary explosions and walking inside the Sun, Magic weapon that can absorb an entropy bomb intended to destroy every god in the past, present, and future. Negate magic that gives Juggernaut his powers, etc.

Pretty sure Thor is much greater than a Librarian. Not when he's gone up against Glory, Mikaboshi, or Gorr.

Im not sure how a unibeam could count as a D weapon. considering most D weapons involve ripping time space or melting through buildings.

Hulk i could see just getting the boon of corn if he went to the eye. whether he cares or not is another thing.

I'd like to answer this thread with a quote:

"I am the rocks of the eternal shore. Crash against me and be broken!" ~Apocalypse

 vipoid wrote:
I'd like to answer this thread with a quote:

"I am the rocks of the eternal shore. Crash against me and be broken!" ~Apocalypse

"NOM NOM NOM!" ~Galactus

Marvel wins hands down. 40K is a stupidly overpowered universe, but Marvel is one of the few that is even more stupidly overpowered.

MU earth has defeated technologically and numerically much superior invasions before.

On a side note, if the 40K invasion means no Warp for the 40k forces, that also means that there are no psykers with the 40K forces, as 40K psykers draw on the Warp to fuel their powers. No Warp, no fuel, no powers.

I'd put even money on Wolverine versus a Bloodthirste (but I'd only want to view it from a safe distance, say the next continent).

I'm also unsure how anyone can manage to sneak up on Xavier without Magneto's helmet (good luck taking that off him!).
I mean, most of the X-Men and their villains are at least comparable to Alpha level psykers in 40K. Xavier, Jean Grey, Magneto and a few others easily rate Alpha Plus. In 40K, those are killed before they can learn to harness their powers because they're considered too powerful.
And they aren't even the heaviest hitters in the MU, they're tier 2 at best.

 King Pariah wrote:
"NOM NOM NOM!" ~Galactus

It depends on which particular Marvel characters are in mind.

Certainly human level heroes are toast. Their skills are formidable, but their main protection in comics is plot armour.

However the human heavy hitters, as have already been mentioned, Scarlet Witch and Hope Summers (polymath, able to replicate any mutant's powers at the peak of their ability) could probably just destroy the entire Battlebarge and everyone connected to it with one, "no more Space Marines". Phoenix (if we revive her from being rendered to nothing by Hope and the Witch) lives by eating stars. She would probably pick her teeth (beak?) with a full powered C'Tan.
Thor is a literal god in Marvel terms, and at his best is probably not far off Phoenix in power. Hulk is immensely powerful, but we'll grant that his powers are limited to planet based assaults as he can't fly, and probably can't survive in space.
Magneto is claimed to possess a personal magnetic field equal to that of a planet, and can also manipulate Earth's own magnetic field for his own purposes. He can manipulate all metals that respond to magnetism, and on one occasion ripped the adamantium out of Wolverine by liquefying it within his body. If there is any magnetic metal in the attacking Space Marines' equipment then they are toast. He could probably pull the Battlebarge out of orbit and crash it if he had to.
Franklin Richards as a boy of five years in age, created an entire planet that basically replicated our own, including its inhabitants, as a refuge for the Fantastic Four and the Avengers when they were in danger of being killed by Onslaught (a manifestation of Xavier's dark side). When those people wanted to return a Celestial had to volunteer to go to sleep forever in order to provide enough power to maintain this world that Richards created in a childish panic. He could probably make the Chaos Gods cry for their mummies if he saw them as a threat to his loved ones.

Of course then there's Squirrel Girl. Her power is very simple... she always wins. Her plot armour is invincible.

The truly shocking thing though? While the Marvel universe might be seen as insane, the power levels of its heroes still fall far short of many of the regular heroes in the DC universe.

Freman Bloodglaive wrote:
The truly shocking thing though? While the Marvel universe might be seen as insane, the power levels of its heroes still fall far short of many of the regular heroes in the DC universe.

Space Marines invade DC Earth.

Superman.

The end.

 vipoid wrote:

Freman Bloodglaive wrote:
The truly shocking thing though? While the Marvel universe might be seen as insane, the power levels of its heroes still fall far short of many of the regular heroes in the DC universe.

Space Marines invade DC Earth.

Superman.

The end.

End of superman ofc. Almost every race from 40k would have wits and logistics to find kryptonite and shove it up sups ass. Unless it's IG and they don't die of laughter first after seeing a guy wearing pants outside his suit.

Other heroes? Necrons kill the sun. Magneto? Nids. Galactus? One headbutt from Gork(or Mork). Thor? Emperor.

I dont know many marvell heroes but even their universe full of almost unkilable dork's Mary Sue guys would crumble under sheer riduculousness of 40k.

Plumbumbarum wrote:

End of superman ofc. Almost every race from 40k would have wits and logistics to find kryptonite and shove it up sups ass.

Shove Kryptonite up the ass of someone who can travel faster than light.

Yep, that sounds like a winning strategy.

Would take some planning I guess but that's one call to Tzeenth. Doesn't pants man fall into traps left and right in comics and movies. Not to mention that I heard DC themselves claimed that Batman would win with Superman so all it takes is a resoueceful, clever man. You can find a few in 40k some with million years of experience. Yeah I think literaly up his ass, airborne

Yeah, two can play at that game.

Necrons? Forge hacks into their mainframe and reprograms them all to fight for MU Earth side. Also, Magneto + iron warriors = one large pile of scrap metal.

Tyranids? Not even a blip. The X-men have fought off several Nid-like space critters invasions. Hell, Wolverine once took out what amounts to a Genestealer infestation singlehandedly.

In X-Men: Magik miniseries a group of five of them basically stopped a Daemonic incursion.

Emperor? Xavier is a telepath of equal or even greater skill.

And that's just one group of the many superheroes that inhabit MU Earth.

In fact, Magneto's powers alone could probably do the trick against any and all foes 40K has to offer with the possible exception of Daemons. He has one of the most ill-thought-out superpowers ever. Controlling electromagnetic fields? You mean, the very forces holding your molecules together?

Plumbumbarum wrote:

 vipoid wrote:

Freman Bloodglaive wrote:
The truly shocking thing though? While the Marvel universe might be seen as insane, the power levels of its heroes still fall far short of many of the regular heroes in the DC universe.

Space Marines invade DC Earth.

Superman.

The end.

End of superman ofc. Almost every race from 40k would have wits and logistics to find kryptonite and shove it up sups ass. Unless it's IG and they don't die of laughter first after seeing a guy wearing pants outside his suit.

Other heroes? Necrons kill the sun. Magneto? Nids. Galactus? One headbutt from Gork(or Mork). Thor? Emperor.

I dont know many marvell heroes but even their universe full of almost unkilable dork's Mary Sue guys would crumble under sheer riduculousness of 40k.

Lobo handles all of these listed with ease. After an all-night bender of cheap beer and old hotdogs, all Lobo has to do is let one rip and the Necrons will go back to sleep for another 60 million years, the Tyranids will turn tail and flee the galaxy as fast as their narvhals can take them, never to return, and the Emperor will pray (to himself) that the Golden Throne has a Febreeze dispenser.

Also, following the events of Lobo's Back's Back, Lobo cannot die. Neither Heaven nor Hell will accept his soul (since he totally wrecked both places the last time he was there). This is also a being who can staple his own severed limbs back on while cracking wise, has all the powers that Wolverine has (+10), and a bitchin' space-bike.

Eh, I think Lobo and Doomrider would kick it off as best of buds starting a bromance unlike any have seen before and those two just wouldn't give a feth about the war.

I would like to see Black Bolt vs. Every Noise Marine just to see how many syllables it would take to wipe out the Noise Marines.

I like how the OP specifically said Space Marines vs MU, and people are claiming 40K wins because Necrons, Nids and Daemons.

 Happyjew wrote:
I like how the OP specifically said Space Marines vs MU, and people are claiming 40K wins because Necrons, Nids and Daemons.

I don't think even the inclusion of them would throw the war in 40k's favor. The Marvel Universe contains a lot of god level beings some of which (like Eternity) could wipe out life all life in the Universe and who knows what more to something as small as a single galaxy - when compared to the universe.

valace2 wrote:
So I have seen the silly comparisons of Star Wars/Trek vs the Imperium of Man, and due to its sheer size and the scope of the setting there really is no comparison between the settings. I have also seen some even more screwy "what ifs" where the Imperium of Man came to our Earth and it was simply a backward primitive planet.

My question is how would an Astarte Chapter fare if they were were to come to the Earth of the Marvel Universe? I know that should the full brunt of the Imperium fall on Earth is would be over in a matter of seconds. But how would a company of Astartes fare against say the Avengers?

Astartes are the most perfectly engineered warriors but how could even a squad of Assault Terminators manage the Hulk?

How would a pre Daemon Prince Angron fare against Wolverine?

Characters such as Thor or Superman from DC would still be OP and probably be able to manage even the primarchs but for now we could leave them out of the conversation.

Participate or not, just on a Marvel kick at the moment and bored.

Oooh, this sounds interesting and worthwhile. Okay, here's my postulations:

1 - captain america is a supersoldier, so he's a marine equivalent.

2 - captain america and his mighty shield were able to tussle with thor (on that island where thor was trying to take loki from the shield transport plane) without getting seriously injured.

3 - iron man was also able to fight thor without getting seriously injured, and he's wearing power armour. So a marine can be roughly compared to captain america wearing ironman armour.

4 - hawkeye and scarlett johanson are largely just humans. Yes hawkeye does some good ranged firepower, but its over when scarlett reaches him in close combat.

5 - a company of marines will have an arsenal of tanks, aircraft, and support weapons (no need to weigh into the librarian/warp debate at this point).

6 - the hulk just can't be beaten. Its like gravity suddenly flowing upwards, it can't happen.

So my conclusion - everyone dies a horrible horrible death except the hulk. Only the city gets wrecked a lot more. The hulk jumps into orbit and destroys the marine's space ship, then jumps back to earth.