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We'll find out soon enough eh.

Literally all I care about is that they follow BA and SW in moving Rhinos to Fast Attack, with Flesh Tearers-esque FA-heavy detachment - having to pay two HQ/Troop taxes to get Rhinos & Grav-Cents for my Mechanicus army is a pain in the arse.

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There were rumors of a new DA codex.... bringing them more in-line with 7th Ed.

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I'm really beyond being surprised or annoyed at this point. Won't be buying this one, not after less than 2 years.

   
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Anpu42 wrote:I remember when just a few years ago people complaining about the slow Codex release schedule.


I'm fairly sure that there's some kind of happy medium between "maybe you're army will get an update this decade, if you're lucky" and "you've been able to use your codex at least three times, time for an upgrade!" Particularly when there's so much other stuff they could explore (Kroot mercenaries, Tallarn, proper Chaos legions, etc. etc.)

Garrlor wrote:There were rumors of a new DA codex.... bringing them more in-line with 7th Ed.


By making them part of the main codex



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 Jadenim wrote:
Anpu42 wrote:I remember when just a few years ago people complaining about the slow Codex release schedule.


I'm fairly sure that there's some kind of happy medium between "maybe you're army will get an update this decade, if you're lucky" and "you've been able to use your codex at least three times, time for an upgrade!" Particularly when there's so much other stuff they could explore (Kroot mercenaries, Tallarn, proper Chaos legions, etc. etc.)

Garrlor wrote:There were rumors of a new DA codex.... bringing them more in-line with 7th Ed.


By making them part of the main codex




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 Kanluwen wrote:

Doesn't it though?

If Marines are going to be deployed to the field, Scouts are already deployed to mark the engagement zone and start disrupting everything.

So the ideal force to be seen on the average tabletop engagement SHOULD be more Scouts than MEQ.


Except that's not what we see in the fluff (10th company rarely has ten actual scout squads). It would detract from the unique established flavour of the faction, both mechanically and in terms of visuals. It would also force GW to re-market the whole faction, because people buy SM for SM, not Scouts.

I'm still going with "makes no sense".

Don't get me wrong, you make sense in some alternate universe where the background is a bit more in touch with reality and the resulting products match it better than what we have now. It's just not this universe

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 Jadenim wrote:


I'm fairly sure that there's some kind of happy medium between "maybe you're army will get an update this decade, if you're lucky" and "you've been able to use your codex at least three times, time for an upgrade!" Particularly when there's so much other stuff they could explore (Kroot mercenaries, Tallarn, proper Chaos legions, etc. etc.)

By making them part of the main codex


We may not have Kroot Mercs yet, but GW has been doing a lot of side codices in between big ones. Harlequins, Admech, Assassins model box, rumored Genestealer cult vs Deathwatch.

DA as part of the main book, eh. Would have worked an edition ago, but they added more new units so that would be a lot of bloat.

I'd be OK wiith a formation style FOC for Marines built around a battle company- Captain, 0-1 command squad, 0-1 chaplain, 0-1 librarian. 2-6 tac squads, 1-2 assault squads (to push that new assault squad box), 1-2 devastator squads. Predators, Vindicators, Whirlwinds, Hunters/Stalkers available as squadrons. Dreadnought Talons.
   
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Wasn't there talk of a new armour type too? I've only managed about 4-5 games with the current book and like it.

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I take your point on the potential for codex bloat given the new units (unless they relegated them to a supplement, but that seems less likely than a full blown codex.)

I'm actually really impressed with all the new stuff they've been releasing, but it's almost impossible to keep up. I'd much rather they took a little more time over these new forces and left the updates to relatively new codices until later. I paid quite a lot for my iBook SM codex and really haven't got the value out of it yet.

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I don't know why they don't offer a codex subscription at this point. I bet they'd make more money from a £100 per year and get every codex delivered deal AND turn 'my codex went invalid!' into 'yay my codex is great value!' in one fell swoop.

Almost seems too easy.

Wasn't there a rumour of a new assault marine kit? A new LR variant would be awesome, though.

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 BrookM wrote:
We'll probably also see the Marines reboxed with bigger bases while they're at it.

Considering that I saw a Khorne Berzerker kit packed with 32mm bases instead of 25mms? I'd say you're onto something.
   
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Normally I would be frustrated with rest of you. But I have been out of the hobby for over a year. And barely used my SM codex.

And considering I own more than a few rhino class tanks and Land Raiders I am stoked about squadron rules!

Let's just pray they don't feth up the chapter tactics system from last edition. The last codex was solid rules wise.

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So, with the amount of D-weapons Eldar got, buying multiple Land Raiders seems daft unless they also see a major points decrease.
   
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 Drogga wrote:
Is anybody else flipping over this? GW is just pushing and pushing and I've only been back into the 40k world for about 3 months. Already I'm sick of release after release that cause all my books to become scrap. Seriously GW would have lost s customer if I had different games at my flgs. Sadly it's only 40k so I guess I gotta suck it up and deal with it


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Mavnas wrote:
So, with the amount of D-weapons Eldar got, buying multiple Land Raiders seems daft unless they also see a major points decrease.


Landraiders will get Strength E armor and weapons to counter Str D.

 
   
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Mavnas wrote:
So, with the amount of D-weapons Eldar got, buying multiple Land Raiders seems daft unless they also see a major points decrease.


I think that 250 points is a great burden for a model that doesn't do a ton of damage. Assuming that the LR continues not to be a hard hitter, it would only work if it dropped down to the 200 point range AND were tanky enough to survive a hit by a full, hard-hitting squad. Otherwise, the cheaper transport options are just better.

There are, however, mechanisms in 40k that make a unit really hard to kill. For instance, Void Shield Generators (they could have multiple, 1 for each LR of the squad!), low invulnerable saves, and IWND. At the end of the day, though, it has to have a chance to survive a full round against an enemy like Wraithguard, in range.

They could always put some kind of damage reflection array too, like they have on the new Cult Mechanicus.

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Bet they get a save if taken as 3. Plus maybe IWND.

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the thing is, D weaponry should wipe landraiders off the table. I just think they screwed up with the wraithguard. By all means make the hvy wraithcannon S D, but the regular cannon should have had -1 on the D table and the scythe -2. Not sure if it would have made that much difference but would have been a start.

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Perth

all these space marine players saying they wont buy the book. maybe not on day 1, but i bet minds change fast if the update brings them up close to eldar power...

and now i will continue to wait for what has to be the oldest relevant codex to be updated..... and left gak.

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 ausYenLoWang wrote:
all these space marine players saying they wont buy the book.
By "all these space marine players" you mean all 2 of them that posted in this thread?


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Nvs wrote:How long until GW just goes with a membership fee model like Microsoft and Adobe did?

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Davylove21 wrote:I don't know why they don't offer a codex subscription at this point. I bet they'd make more money from a £100 per year and get every codex delivered deal AND turn 'my codex went invalid!' into 'yay my codex is great value!' in one fell swoop.

Almost seems too easy.

Wasn't there a rumour of a new assault marine kit? A new LR variant would be awesome, though.

$10 a month or £100 per year?




In another recent thread someone added up well over £800 to buy the various codices and supplements. So I'm guessing GW would charge £400+ per year if you wanted all codices.

I think what's more realistic is they just change over to a full on DLC system for codices and it costs something like $50 a year *per army*.

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AllSeeingSkink wrote:
 ausYenLoWang wrote:
all these space marine players saying they wont buy the book.
By "all these space marine players" you mean all 2 of them that posted in this thread?


I don't intend on buying the codex for my Minotaurs, not a chance regardless of power level. However, I've also decided for some time to no longer reward GW for being a gakky company, and will only play with the collection I have and without spending any more money on the whole broken system. FW is a different beast, but even it's starting to behave more GW-like, which saddens me deeply.

Vote with your wallets - impulse buying the new shiny will only encourage GW.

Therefore, I conclude, Valve should announce Half Life 2: Episode 3.
 
   
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 MajorStoffer wrote:
AllSeeingSkink wrote:
 ausYenLoWang wrote:
all these space marine players saying they wont buy the book.
By "all these space marine players" you mean all 2 of them that posted in this thread?


I don't intend on buying the codex for my Minotaurs, not a chance regardless of power level. However, I've also decided for some time to no longer reward GW for being a gakky company, and will only play with the collection I have and without spending any more money on the whole broken system. FW is a different beast, but even it's starting to behave more GW-like, which saddens me deeply.

Vote with your wallets - impulse buying the new shiny will only encourage GW.
Yeah I don't think you really count if you already weren't buying things

I'm a SW player and I didn't buy the last SW codex... but given I haven't been playing recently it's not really all that significant that I didn't buy it, lol.
   
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AllSeeingSkink wrote:
 MajorStoffer wrote:
AllSeeingSkink wrote:
 ausYenLoWang wrote:
all these space marine players saying they wont buy the book.
By "all these space marine players" you mean all 2 of them that posted in this thread?


I don't intend on buying the codex for my Minotaurs, not a chance regardless of power level. However, I've also decided for some time to no longer reward GW for being a gakky company, and will only play with the collection I have and without spending any more money on the whole broken system. FW is a different beast, but even it's starting to behave more GW-like, which saddens me deeply.

Vote with your wallets - impulse buying the new shiny will only encourage GW.
Yeah I don't think you really count if you already weren't buying things

I'm a SW player and I didn't buy the last SW codex... but given I haven't been playing recently it's not really all that significant that I didn't buy it, lol.


Do I not? I only really stopped buying things in December, mostly due to lack of enthusiasm anymore than anything else. GW's actions since then have only infuriated me more, though I still try to enjoy the game.

I'm one of those customers who could be encouraged to give money to GW again, but instead their actions further reinforce my decision. Invalidating the Marine book which I have mostly liked - don't use the Centstar and avoid tactical marines like the plague and you've got a good book, for another $60 hardcover with, I imagine, the exact same fluff, a decurion setup, a few tweaks and probably no more chapter tactics.

Hell, I could keep using my existant codex and simply write down the relevant changes on a single page and insert it based off of the reviews.

Therefore, I conclude, Valve should announce Half Life 2: Episode 3.
 
   
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AllSeeingSkink wrote:
I think what's more realistic is they just change over to a full on DLC system for codices and it costs something like $50 a year *per army*.


You know what, I'd actually go for that, because there's a lot of supplements, dataslates, etc. that I don't buy, because who knows if they'll be worth it, or how long they are valid for. $50/£35 a year sounds reasonable if it means I'm guaranteed everything at latest issue, works out at what, $5/£3 a month?

Unfortunately if GW ever took this route they'd almost certainly get greedy and just go for the $800/£500 "Get everything!" approach, with no other option. Because why have many people buying at a low to medium price when you can have a handful paying through the nose

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Looks like it's time to replace a really awesome book with a bland one..

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Really interesting that a company that says they are a miniature company, not a rules company, is nearly spitting out more rules than new miniatures...
   
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So, they make landraiders and rhino command kits, and has "command upgrade" mandaory for a vehicle squadron?
Clever. I wonder if they introduce a new landraider weapon as well, to make you need to buy the new kit (landraider mounted grav cannon, anyone?).

Lets see if they spam vortex grenades too, just to toss things around a bit.

(Sorry, this soon after the eldar dex, GW deserv some snide remarks and doomsyings).

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Between the usual SM favoritism and the recent Codex: Eldar release, I fully expect a Land Raider at 285 points, equipped with 3 Strength D weapons (Large Template).

   
 
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