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Romania uses the Peasant Army Table, which is divided into Regular and Elite, and changes in each time period. In EW, the results are as follows -

Regular

1. CC
2. FC
3. FC
4. CT
5. CT
6. FT


Elite

1. CT
2. CT
3. CT
4. FT
5. FT
6. CV


However, once the initial stages of the invasion are over, at the end of Early War, the Romanians start to wonder why they're deep in the Soviet Union (one of the primary reasons for joining Barbarossa was to retake two regions that the Soviets had seized from Romania the year before; for obvious reasons, that was accomplished almost immediately). Both charts have a 50% chance of generating a Reluctant result, and a Confident result otherwise. The Conscripts are gone, though, which means that even if your troops don't want to be there, they're at least competent at their jobs (and sometimes very good at those jobs). In Late War, with the front lines approaching Romania (and Romania switching sides), the R and C motivation rating chances switch to 33%/67%. You still have the same chance at each skill rating, though.

@ Avatar 720. Sorry I should have been clearer. I know the mechanic i just don't have any experience of how it plays.

For example many people look across the table at my T-35s and assume they're unstoppable behemoths. They don't realise that every bit of terrain is a potential death trap to them which severely limits where I can attack.

 mdauben wrote:

Italy - I've got a bit of first hand experience with these fellows. They are stictly an Early War and Mid War force.

They do have LW lists too. Not much in the way of variety, but they work.

They drop the 8 million bayonets rule LW, too.

You can choose between FV paras, CT fucilieri with mission tactics and stormtrooper with plenty of support options and the CT Gruppo Esplorante a funny list with recce infantry teams that can take a zillion guns (like 2x4 PaK43 and 2x4 105 howitzers).

Some good replies here.

IN all honesty, I'll probably opt for an Italian force for the following reasons:

1) The tactical challenge - that 8 million bayonets rule should be fun, and of course taking on Russian tanks should be fun as well.

2) Budgetary reasons - as an Italian force will allow me to use them in Russia and Africa, thus increasing the scenario opportunities, which I prefer.


Was very tempted by the Polish armoured train, but they're too bloody expensive!

 Do_I_Not_Like_That wrote:
Some good replies here.

IN all honesty, I'll probably opt for an Italian force for the following reasons:

1) The tactical challenge - that 8 million bayonets rule should be fun, and of course taking on Russian tanks should be fun as well.

2) Budgetary reasons - as an Italian force will allow me to use them in Russia and Africa, thus increasing the scenario opportunities, which I prefer.


Was very tempted by the Polish armoured train, but they're too bloody expensive!

Great choice.

Italians are my main FoW army.... so much that I'm building an Italian bolt action army at the moment.

jouso wrote:

 Do_I_Not_Like_That wrote:
Some good replies here.

IN all honesty, I'll probably opt for an Italian force for the following reasons:

1) The tactical challenge - that 8 million bayonets rule should be fun, and of course taking on Russian tanks should be fun as well.

2) Budgetary reasons - as an Italian force will allow me to use them in Russia and Africa, thus increasing the scenario opportunities, which I prefer.


Was very tempted by the Polish armoured train, but they're too bloody expensive!

Great choice.

Italians are my main FoW army.... so much that I'm building an Italian bolt action army at the moment.

Just wondering where I can buy cheap Italian troops in 15mm...

Peter Pig has a fairly extensive Italian range as does Old Glory.

 George Spiggott wrote:
Peter Pig has a fairly extensive Italian range as does Old Glory.

If I had a quid for every time I've super glued metal miniatures to my fingers over the years, I'd be a rich man!

I avoid metal minis like the plague - plastic and resin for me.

I need plastic Italian minis...I smell a kickstarter coming on

I enjoy using my Romanians. And the best part is in LW you can play them as either Axis or Allies with just a few minor tweaks.

Pros
Either side so you can play the guy that won't fight against an ally.
Huge platoons if you go that route.
Pretty good support units. HMG and mortar platoons can be built into companies and/or taken as a separate slot (get those numbers even for reserve missions).
Access to German equipment even if you field an Allied force.

Cons
Troop ratings. You don't know what they are until first turn is ready to begin. Nothing is more aggravating than having a platoon you set up to move forward with rool Reluctant Trained while the one you deployed for defense roll CV.
Artillery - The guns themselves are not bad but only spotters or Arty units can call in strikes. Commanders can't

 Do_I_Not_Like_That wrote:

 George Spiggott wrote:
Peter Pig has a fairly extensive Italian range as does Old Glory.

If I had a quid for every time I've super glued metal miniatures to my fingers over the years, I'd be a rich man!

I avoid metal minis like the plague - plastic and resin for me.

I need plastic Italian minis...I smell a kickstarter coming on

That's the pity of playing minnows, plastic infantry is a no-no (though you can make decent Hungarians and even Finns out of German stuff).

You can also play the co-belligerent Italian army LW (mostly US-equipped) with US minis though there are no official lists (use a generic US list)

You know which minor nation you can do with US minis - Brazillians....

jouso wrote:

 Do_I_Not_Like_That wrote:

 George Spiggott wrote:
Peter Pig has a fairly extensive Italian range as does Old Glory.

If I had a quid for every time I've super glued metal miniatures to my fingers over the years, I'd be a rich man!

I avoid metal minis like the plague - plastic and resin for me.

I need plastic Italian minis...I smell a kickstarter coming on

That's the pity of playing minnows, plastic infantry is a no-no (though you can make decent Hungarians and even Finns out of German stuff).

You can also play the co-belligerent Italian army LW (mostly US-equipped) with US minis though there are no official lists (use a generic US list)

I'm pretty big on authenticity, so the absence of a decent plastic mini, is annoying.

If anybody from PSC is reading this, give us plastic Italians!!


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 Reaver83 wrote:
You know which minor nation you can do with US minis - Brazillians....

Is there an army list for them?


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Boss GreenNutz wrote:
I enjoy using my Romanians. And the best part is in LW you can play them as either Axis or Allies with just a few minor tweaks.

Pros
Either side so you can play the guy that won't fight against an ally.
Huge platoons if you go that route.
Pretty good support units. HMG and mortar platoons can be built into companies and/or taken as a separate slot (get those numbers even for reserve missions).
Access to German equipment even if you field an Allied force.

Cons
Troop ratings. You don't know what they are until first turn is ready to begin. Nothing is more aggravating than having a platoon you set up to move forward with rool Reluctant Trained while the one you deployed for defense roll CV.
Artillery - The guns themselves are not bad but only spotters or Arty units can call in strikes. Commanders can't

I don't like the look of Romanians that much - would rather crush them with my Soviet tanks

 Do_I_Not_Like_That wrote:

 Reaver83 wrote:
You know which minor nation you can do with US minis - Brazillians....

Is there an army list for them?

Yessir. Here you go: http://www.flamesofwar.com/Portals/0/Documents/Briefings/Brazilian-Intelligence-Briefing.pdf

 Reaver83 wrote:
You know which minor nation you can do with US minis - Brazillians....

And post-Africa French forces.

I don't like the look of Romanians that much

The Romanians have what is quite possibly the single most annoying mini in the game - a 15mm infantry figure with an arm that needs to be superglued into place. Kind of an interesting idea, as it provides a bit of posability, except -

1.) Supergluing anything that small tends to be an exercise in frustration
2.) Due to the way that the figure is set up, you have a very limited range of positions in which the arm doesn't look very awkwardly posed.

Eumerin wrote:
The Romanians have what is quite possibly the single most annoying mini in the game - a 15mm infantry figure with an arm that needs to be superglued into place. Kind of an interesting idea, as it provides a bit of posability, except -

1.) Supergluing anything that small tends to be an exercise in frustration
2.) Due to the way that the figure is set up, you have a very limited range of positions in which the arm doesn't look very awkwardly posed.

That reminds me of the mandatory motorcycle figure that comes with the LefH18 box. Both arms are attached to the handlebar of the bike and is a single separate piece that needs to be attached to the body of the rider and the right place on the bike simultaneously. I removed the LefH18s from my list both because they were unnecessary but also because I tried to build that figure, and I decided it was safer to not build it and avoid an aneurysm than to get it done after 90% of my blood vessels have burst. It's impossible to line up both the arms to sit flush against the body and also to have the handlebar even attached to the bike. I was sorely tempted to throw the entire figure in the bin.