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 MLaw wrote:
This sounds like sour grapes. Reaper has an excellent track record, does fine quality casting, and they actually manage their product lines. They even have miniatures in the Pig-Iron vein of sci-fi. Victoria simply does not.

That said, I don't sit here crying about how Forgeworld, Victoria, West-Wind, Antenociti, Kromlech, Puppetswar, Titanforge, Maxmini, Anvil Industries, Heresy, Hasslefree or any of the other miniature companies I shop with that are not American based. So one line that Europeans have had access to for ages "might" come to America and somehow that's a huge affront to the sensibilities of everyone that isn't from the US? Give me a break.


American RoW shipping always seems to be extremely steep compared to shipping from anywhere else in the world; the added kick in the nards of customs charges (for most RoW people) and Parcelforce Tax (for UK buyers) also doesn't help

I think that is the point being made, rather than people having sour grapes over Reaper potentially taking on the line.

   
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Yea, it isn't clear to me why people would blame Reaper for shipping costs to ROW. I am not entirely sure why shipping is so much more expensive in the past few years (outside of customs/taxes specific to the country) but I am pretty sure it is something every company deals with. Getting stuff from Europe to the US is really expensive too; it just seems to be the way of it now.
Not to mention the fact that Reaper is carried in many stores in Europe, so it shouldn't be a problem to order from a (relatively) local seller that won't have to deal with a large shipping fee.


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Probably because unlike most other US mini/games companies (of any significant size) there is very little of their stuff available in Europe as it's just not distributed

unlike WoTC, CMON, FFG (now part of asmodee, but before), etc

(although miniature heroes in the UK does import from them direct)

now exactly why I'm not sure, it could be the distributors just don't think Reaper stuff will sell (there's far less D&D/pathfinder over here and a lot of their releases are geared to that market),

or it could be that reaper does not offer terms that are attractive enough to the distributors and prefer to work direct (but they do get distributed in the US)

so it's probably a combination of the two,

but it adds up to neat stuff we see online and have difficulty getting leading to resentment

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 OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:
Probably because unlike most other US mini/games companies (of any significant size) there is very little of their stuff available in Europe as it's just not distributed

unlike WoTC, CMON, FFG (now part of asmodee, but before), etc

(although miniature heroes in the UK does import from them direct)

now exactly why I'm not sure, it could be the distributors just don't think Reaper stuff will sell (there's far less D&D/pathfinder over here and a lot of their releases are geared to that market),

or it could be that reaper does not offer terms that are attractive enough to the distributors and prefer to work direct (but they do get distributed in the US)

so it's probably a combination of the two,

but it adds up to neat stuff we see online and have difficulty getting leading to resentment


When you say "difficulty" what that really means is paying for shipping. It is not cool.. I know...
Trying to build the Killzone army in my link, as an American, I've paid almost as much for shipping as I have for the pieces on a model per model basis. The kits purchased are almost entirely from outside the US and each model is comprised of resin bits as there are no complete kits used for any of it. So I'm paying shipping for: Heads, Arms, Torsos, Legs, Weapons, Accessories, Bases, etc individually.. all overseas (barring the Mad Robot stuff and Dreamforge/WGF kits). When I order a $10 pack of heads and have to pay $5 in shipping.. against an exchange rate that does not favor my native currency.. yes.. that is a difficulty. This is a hobby though and unless I can convince someone on this side of the world to stock all of those wonderful kits, I have to accept that getting the pieces for my little army men is an expensive and time consuming process. I wish it weren't the case for any of us, but that is the nature of international business.


   
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Ordering direct from outside to the EU to delivery inside the EU attracts shipping fees (which can be very high), an additional 20% added to the combined cost of the items + shipping, potentially another 5% added on top of this as import duty if the total is high enough, and a fixed £8 handling fee by the local carrier. In addition, because these parcels are held for duty, you typically don't get them delivered to your home - they are held at a local post office until you stump up the fees.

It is utterly prohibitive, but only Reaper's "fault" insofar as they have expressed no interest in setting up international distribution, which I think is a shame.
   
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Not just shipping fees but a combination of what they sell how i'd like to buy it and shipping fees/taxes

Reapers stuff is the sort of thing i'd like to buy one or two at a time (their releases tend to be scattergun) thrown in with an order for other stuff at a store of internet retailer

the shipping and taxes would be more palatable if I was buying a box game for $100 rather than a couple of packs of bones kobolds

totally not their fault (I do buy from them occasionally), but frustrating none the less

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Yep. We had some internationals unhappy during Reaper's KS3 that they were paying "actual shipping costs" from the US rather than Reaper using international fulfillment. Reaper said the costs of fulfillment (some services charge $1 per item added) were too high, so they pack and ship everything from their warehouse. Reaper's run by accountants, so I guess they've looked at the numbers and went with what works best for them. Postal and thus courier rates have been rising in the US (two increases in the last year), and I imagine this is affecting all small US businesses pretty badly. This should be bad for KS, since backers are still looking for last year's bargains, but creators need to be wary of further shipping increases.

I hope, though, that this creates opportunities for miniature companies overseas. UK, of course, has a long-standing miniature industry, and I've been seeing miniature KS from Spain, Poland, and even Argentina. I've also been seeing various 3D KS projects, so hope quality affordable 3D printers appear in the near future, so we don't have to pay *any* shipping costs!

Oh, and I'm posting here because *this* is what appeared in Reaper's KS3 update! I already have two Dagon sculpts, but here's a whole lotta Deep One for $20!
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1513061270/reaper-miniatures-bones-3-the-search-for-mr-bones/posts/1496683

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And Reaper comes back with the one true casting medium. Yes they have...

MORE METAL

http://www.reapermini.com/

I hope you all like wings!



First off we have a sommelier with his trusty champagne-saber and tasting goblet.

He can also be used to rep a Maitre 'D with a quick hand swap or even a butler.



Reaper also continues its line of angels, this time with the Angel of Plenty who descends from heaven to help carve your Easter feast with her twin knives.



She is joined by the Angel of Protection who appears to lonely shepherds and goat herders offering them comfort in their lonely vigils. he can also shape shift into a goat or sheep as required.



I'm not entirely sure which angel this is, perhaps the angel of dieting? or perhaps the Angel of Scratch Building Figures From Your Bits Box?

What it may be it's sure to inspire and protect your PCs on their dangerous quests.



Then we have an evil anti-Paladin with her wicked spiked sword and stylized chaos star on her armor.



And finally a noble philosopher-king with his crown of wisdom and his shepherd's crook looking to guide the innocents to the path of rightousness. Great sculpt I would just argue he's a bit thin, but I guess it's from all the fasting and meditating.

Anyway another great lot of figures, can't wait to see what Reaper has for us next.

 
   
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The metal versions of a bunch of bones it looks like. Woulda been nice if they could've been bothered to clean off the seams in their pics

The not-Chaos star is actually their not-Crucifix. All their crusader type stuff has those.


   
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So many Castlevania references I'd like to make about this one.
"You seem human, and yet, what do you here?"
"It was not by my hand that I am once again given flesh. I was summoned here by HUMANS who wished to pay me tribute!"
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ced1106 wrote:
Oh, and I'm posting here because *this* is what appeared in Reaper's KS3 update! I already have two Dagon sculpts, but here's a whole lotta Deep One for $20!

That's a beautiful looking model, and what a price!

I'm generally not a huge fan of Reaper Bones. Most of the time I'd rather buy the metal version of the figure since I'm generally buying one at a time the price difference of a couple dollars does not matter to me.

Its big stuff like this, however, where the price difference starts to matter. The weight difference becomes significant, too, both in working on the figure and potentially transporting it.


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 Kid_Kyoto wrote:
I hope you all like wings!

I like the figure itself. Nice pose and some interesting details on the clothing. The Batman cape kinda detracts from that, tough. Is it a one-piece casting, or could we omit or replace the cape?

Reaper also continues its line of angels, this time with the Angel of Plenty who descends from heaven to help carve your Easter feast with her twin knives.

Heh! A nice enough figure, although Reaper does have a number of similar bat winged females already.

I'm not entirely sure which angel this is, perhaps the angel of dieting? or perhaps the Angel of Scratch Building Figures From Your Bits Box?

I'm a sucker for something different, so I like this miniature. A bone demon or devil, perhaps?

Then we have an evil anti-Paladin with her wicked spiked sword and stylized chaos star on her armor.

Evil always has the best stuff! A really nice female fighter that's sure to make her way to my painting table.

And finally a noble philosopher-king with his crown of wisdom and his shepherd's crook looking to guide the innocents to the path of rightousness. Great sculpt I would just argue he's a bit thin, but I guess it's from all the fasting and meditating.

Again, nothing really new here, but a very nicely sculpted figure in a great pose. I'll have to add him to my collection.

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Those are some pretty uninspired demons, and the bone demon is just... weird, right? Both in idea and in execution.

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Cut off his tail and squint a bit and he's a passable Sardo Numspa.

   
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I like the idea, it's just kind of an awkward pose. I doubt those are the most flattering possible paintjobs for the models either.
   
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 MLaw wrote:

The not-Chaos star is actually their not-Crucifix. All their crusader type stuff has those.



...that's part of K_K's joke.

I prefer Reaper's output in metal vs. bones.

Their Bones efforts have been mostly disappointing for me.

   
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How have they been disappointments? Just curious, since I come to the hobby from another direction.

Bones has really blown open the hobby for me, in that I can paint them with my son and then he can play with them. Tre's gnolls and bugbears are our favorite human sized minis, and the large monsters are almost all great casts of decent to great sculpts.

I still prefer assembling HIPS minis, but Bones delivers a ton of fun minis at impulse buy pricing.


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 Polonius wrote:
I like the idea, it's just kind of an awkward pose. I doubt those are the most flattering possible paintjobs for the models either.


Well, yeah, the pose screams "lazily designed to be cast in metal". So, it's aimed at the old hammer crowd?

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Both Bones and Metal have their uses. Metal for small and/or spindly stuff. Bones for large monsters (or something youll not use more than once or twice). Cant get my head around human sized Bones stuff though. Just seems kind of... eh.
   
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Oh, look. Another fully clothed male followed by a nearly naked female.

N/M. The next two pics have naked men to even things out.

Anyway, Bones miniatures *are* aimed towards market like Bob. Reaper's said that many RPG'ers will buy Bones and play with them without painting. This is a *large* audience, and enabled Reaper to cast more monster miniatures than they did in metal. This includes larger monsters, which would not sell in RPG quantity as metal at over $30+ per miniature -- no GM is going to pay $150 for a hill giant encounter. With Reaper headed by accountants, I'm guessing the human-sized mini's are popular according to their sales numbers.

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and dragons,

dragons always sell well too

 
   
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Yeah, Bones is pretty obviously designed as a D&D/Pathfinder line, not a large-scale wargaming line. It still produces a lot of stuff that's good for that use, though.
   
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Another new release!

Hey remember when all Necromancers were creepy old men in smelly robes hanging out in cemeteries doing unnatural things?

Neither does Reaper!


 
   
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Clearly she's stepping into some kind of bath, right as an unseen skeleton molests her from behind.
   
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We'll find out soon enough eh.

Are the bones around her torso the ones evidently missing from the shapeless, ankle-less fleshlump she has instead of a foot?

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 Mymearan wrote:
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 Yodhrin wrote:
Are the bones around her torso the ones evidently missing from the shapeless, ankle-less fleshlump she has instead of a foot?


It's an homage to Liefeld.
   
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 Kid_Kyoto wrote:
Another new release!

Hey remember when all Necromancers were creepy old men in smelly robes hanging out in cemeteries doing unnatural things?

Neither does Reaper!



How do we know "she" isn't actually a creepy old man? You never know these days...


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 Yodhrin wrote:
Are the bones around her torso the ones evidently missing from the shapeless, ankle-less fleshlump she has instead of a foot?


That says a lot of you when you're looking at her FOOT.

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