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2016/06/25 04:44:33
Subject: Re:Heretic Tom's First Foray - Chaos Army
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This message was edited 5 times. Last update was at 2016/07/01 07:15:41
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2016/06/26 00:30:20
Subject: Heretic Tom's First Foray - Chaos Warband
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Rogue Inquisitor with Xenos Bodyguards
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Yep, I tried to do my SM as Imperial Fists, got tired of the way Yellow gave me trouble and will only use yellow for smaller applications where needed, (turn signals, rank marks, etc).
Good work on that Iron Warrior btw
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"Your mumblings are awakening the sleeping Dragon, be wary when meddling the affairs of Dragons, for thou art tasty and go good with either ketchup or chocolate. "
Dragons fear nothing, if it acts up, we breath magic fire that turns them into marshmallow peeps. We leaguers only cry rivets!
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2016/06/26 01:11:48
Subject: Heretic Tom's First Foray - Chaos Warband
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shasolenzabi wrote:Yep, I tried to do my SM as Imperial Fists, got tired of the way Yellow gave me trouble and will only use yellow for smaller applications where needed…
Thanks Shas. Yah, I would have been inclined to blame my cheap craft paint if it weren't for all the people who seem to have the same trouble despite presumably using different/better paints. I don't remember specifically, but I think that imperial fist head must have 6 or more coats of yellow, not counting wash and highlights.
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2016/06/26 01:13:20
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2016/06/26 01:42:43
Subject: Heretic Tom's First Foray - Chaos Warband
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Rogue Inquisitor with Xenos Bodyguards
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Heretic Tom wrote: shasolenzabi wrote:Yep, I tried to do my SM as Imperial Fists, got tired of the way Yellow gave me trouble and will only use yellow for smaller applications where needed…
Thanks Shas. Yah, I would have been inclined to blame my cheap craft paint if it weren't for all the people who seem to have the same trouble despite presumably using different/better paints. I don't remember specifically, but I think that imperial fist head must have 6 or more coats of yellow, not counting wash and highlights.
Yellow is too translucent on it's own, so many thin coats need to be applied. entire squads of Imperial Fists are a major exercise in patience.
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"Your mumblings are awakening the sleeping Dragon, be wary when meddling the affairs of Dragons, for thou art tasty and go good with either ketchup or chocolate. "
Dragons fear nothing, if it acts up, we breath magic fire that turns them into marshmallow peeps. We leaguers only cry rivets!
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2016/06/27 13:31:53
Subject: Re:Heretic Tom's First Foray - Chaos Warband
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I started on my aspiring champion last night, didn't get much further than a rough base coat. I decided to go with a red corsair, though my color range is extremely limited I think the crimson is looking alright. At some point I'm going to buy like $300 worth of paint and look back on this time with face-palming dismay
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2016/06/28 19:24:05
Subject: Re:Heretic Tom's First Foray - Chaos Warband
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progress! I still have a lot to do though.
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2016/06/28 20:30:08
Subject: Re:Heretic Tom's First Foray - Chaos Warband
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Rogue Inquisitor with Xenos Bodyguards
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I like the touch of the power fist fingers looking electrified, good work so far on him!
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"Your mumblings are awakening the sleeping Dragon, be wary when meddling the affairs of Dragons, for thou art tasty and go good with either ketchup or chocolate. "
Dragons fear nothing, if it acts up, we breath magic fire that turns them into marshmallow peeps. We leaguers only cry rivets!
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2016/06/29 00:24:13
Subject: Heretic Tom's First Foray - Chaos Warband
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Blood-Drenched Death Company Marine
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I really like your Iron Warrior, a nice conversion and well painted too. Fair play for even attempting hazard stripes, I just left them off my IW altogether.
The Red Corsair is looking good already, hope to see some more progress soon.
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2016/06/29 02:28:03
Subject: Heretic Tom's First Foray - Chaos Warband
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Thraxas Of Turai wrote:I really like your Iron Warrior, a nice conversion and well painted too. Fair play for even attempting hazard stripes, I just left them off my IW altogether.
The Red Corsair is looking good already, hope to see some more progress soon.
Thanks Thraxas. That Iron Warrior made me glad I hadn't decided to do a whole army of Iron Warriors. I may never paint hazard stripes again
I finished up my Red Corsair and I'd love some feedback. Please, let me know what you guys think.
Heretic Tom
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2016/06/29 06:04:30
Subject: Heretic Tom's First Foray - Chaos Warband
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Pious Palatine
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Looking good dude. Really like the blue claws on the powerfist.
EDC
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2016/06/29 06:22:47
Subject: Heretic Tom's First Foray - Chaos Warband
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Thanks iniquitous cheese, m.d. This was my first attempt at both glowing eyes and a power weapon. For a first try, I was pretty pleased with the results.
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2016/06/29 06:27:15
Subject: Heretic Tom's First Foray - Chaos Warband
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Blood-Drenched Death Company Marine
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I think your red and gold look really good. The question is which traitor Legion is next?
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2016/06/29 07:41:02
Subject: Heretic Tom's First Foray - Chaos Warband
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Potent Possessed Daemonvessel
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Very cool latest addition Tom !
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2016/06/29 08:08:45
Subject: Re:Heretic Tom's First Foray - Chaos Warband
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Violent Enforcer
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Loving the new chaos warband, definitely my army of choice if you want character. If you run out of chaos legions/renegade chapter paint schemes at any point, Hakanor's Reavers are always a surefire way of driving you mad.
Next question: do YOU hear the voices TOO???
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Do you know what your sin is, Malcolm Reynolds?
Ah hell, I'm a fan of all seven.
But right now, I'm gonna have to go with wrath. |
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2016/06/29 17:44:24
Subject: Heretic Tom's First Foray - Chaos Warband
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Thraxas Of Turai wrote:I think your red and gold look really good. The question is which traitor Legion is next?
Thanks thraxas. That is the question indeed. I really want to do a corrupted marine from one of the loyalist chapters. I was considering either a Lamenter (in spite of their notoriously difficult chapter symbol) or a Mantis Warrior, since both a have ties to the Red Corsairs.
KernelTerror wrote:Very cool latest addition Tom !
Thanks, much appreciated.
Drakeslayer wrote:Loving the new chaos warband, definitely my army of choice if you want character. If you run out of chaos legions/renegade chapter paint schemes at any point, Hakanor's Reavers are always a surefire way of driving you mad.
Next question: do YOU hear the voices TOO???
Thanks! That's definitely going to be a tough one, I like a challenge though and I'm getting more confident with every mini. Plus, Hakanor's Reavers have some awesome fluff. Very tempting
To answer your 2nd question; sanity is for the weak!!
Following a bit of advice from Paradigm (who is an awesome painter fyi) I painted the grill in the chest piece to help break up the colors a bit. I think it was definitely an improvement.
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2016/06/30 11:07:45
Subject: Heretic Tom's First Foray - Chaos Warband
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Yu Jing Martial Arts Ninja
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Nice work. Liking the individuality of each marine. Looking forward to the next one
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2016/06/30 21:16:39
Subject: Heretic Tom's First Foray - Chaos Warband
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This is my as yet meager work station. I would probably be working in my garage but it's far too humid here this time of year.
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This message was edited 2 times. Last update was at 2016/07/08 10:28:28
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2016/07/01 05:15:15
Subject: Heretic Tom's First Foray - Chaos Warband
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Sister Vastly Superior
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Hey mate! That iron warrior looks awesome .
It's fairly easy to paint those hazard stripes, just start with averland sunset (remember to thin it down!) and give it a good amount of thin layers. Eventually, you will be able to apply yriel yellow and you're set!
I think I like your iron warrior the most out of all your other chaos marines
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2016/07/01 05:18:19
Subject: Heretic Tom's First Foray - Chaos Warband
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Pious Palatine
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Yeah that little improvement makers a big difference to the overall look of the model. What's on the agenda next?
EDC
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2016/07/01 05:24:56
Subject: Heretic Tom's First Foray - Chaos Warband
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Sister Vastly Superior
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Also, have you considered doing the chaos stars (shoulder pad and belly) a different colour? metallic perhaps?
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2016/07/01 06:03:37
Subject: Heretic Tom's First Foray - Chaos Warband
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teban wrote:Hey mate! That iron warrior looks awesome .
It's fairly easy to paint those hazard stripes, just start with averland sunset (remember to thin it down!) and give it a good amount of thin layers. Eventually, you will be able to apply yriel yellow and you're set!
I think I like your iron warrior the most out of all your other chaos marines
Thanks! I realized after the fact that I probably should have painted the whole field yellow, using as many layers as I needed and THEN painted in the black lines. I did this in te reverse order, so every time I added a layer I had the added frustration of trying to keep my lines straight. Lesson learned.
evildrcheese wrote:Yeah that little improvement makers a big difference to the overall look of the model. What's on the agenda next?
EDC
Thanks EDC, I agree. That small change made a large improvement to the overall look of the model. I'm researching right now who I want to represent with my next addition to this rag tag bunch of emperor haters. I'm considering a Grey Death marine, but their colors and such aren't listed in official fluff. At first I thought of this as a negative, but I've been considering the possible plus side of this, as it would allow me some artistic freedom. Another thing I've wanted to do since I first decided to work on chaos marines is to do a marine like the one that Eisenhorn encounters early in the eisenhorn trilogy (I forget which book), Abnett described him like this: "He was well over two metres tall, wrapped in a cloak that seemed to be made of smoke and silk, and his ornately decorated armour and horned helmet were a shocking mixture of chased gold, acidic yellow, glossy purple, and the red of fresh, oxygenated blood." However, I have no way of making a cloak, as I have no green stuff, have never used it before (but hey, you have to start somewhere) and additionally, I can't afford to pick up any new supplies at the moment. So, that idea may have to stew a bit longer.
teban wrote:Also, have you considered doing the chaos stars (shoulder pad and belly) a different colour? metallic perhaps?
I have, I considered doing them goldish, like much of the other accents, but I didn't want to over do it with that particular color and I felt I'd already reached my preferred limit. I also considered doing them black, as this is the secondary color of the Red Corsairs. However, I worried that I wouldn't be able to give them as much depth of tone/contrast, in part because this seems to be inherent to black, and also because of the inferior range/quality of the paints I have available would likely exacerbate the problem. Still, I'm open to ideas.
ckig wrote:Nice work. Liking the individuality of each marine. Looking forward to the next one
Thanks! I'll start as soon as I can settle on what legion/warband to represent. I've been more than a little indecisive in this regard thus far.
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2016/07/01 16:26:12
Subject: Heretic Tom's First Foray - Chaos Warband
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Sister Vastly Superior
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I see - What I'd do, is I'd paint the shoulder pad's icon with the metallics you've already used and the one in the belly with black (and bright grey highlights!) with the skull having a natural colour.
the reason for the metallic on the shoulderpad, is that i visualize the icon as one of the most important parts of a unit, its what says where your allegiance lies! (traitor scum )
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2016/07/02 03:57:50
Subject: Re:Heretic Tom's First Foray - Chaos Warband
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I tried my hand at a "burnt muzzle" effect on what I thought was a much too pristine looking melta. It didn't come out quite as I'd hoped, but I wouldn't call it terrible either. Thoughts? Suggestions?
I think I probably need to throw a sepia toned wash over it.
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2016/07/02 09:11:57
Subject: Heretic Tom's First Foray - Chaos Warband
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Pious Palatine
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Looks good to me. How did you do it (the burnt Melta end)?
EDC
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2016/07/02 21:34:50
Subject: Heretic Tom's First Foray - Chaos Warband
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Thanks EDC. It was not a very complex/thorough process (which may explain my mixed feelings about the end result) but basically I just took some very thin brownish paint (I tried to go for the color of a roasted marshmallow ) and brought it from the tip of the melta barrel down, leaving a bit of untouched metal near the other end, I then did the same thing a few more times not going quite as far with each subsequent layer in an attempt to feather the color. I then painted the tip of the barrel solid black, bringing it down the barrel just the slightest bit. After this, I then stippled the black further down the barrel with my dry brush, I had considered using sponge for this last step but I feared I may not be able to cover as small of an area with the sponge. And that's it, as I said above, I considered/am still considering putting a light brownish wash over the entire "charred" area.
Heretic Tom
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2016/07/02 22:42:16
Subject: Heretic Tom's First Foray - Chaos Warband
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Shrieking Traitor Sentinel Pilot
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Sounds like good fun. Keep it up Tom!
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2016/07/03 21:36:34
Subject: Heretic Tom's First Foray - Chaos Warband
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Fun indeed! Thanks for the encouragement.
I'm visiting the inlaws today, but I'm hoping to get some painting done tonight. Still haven't settled on the identity of the next chaos marine, but here's what I'm currently debating: I've been wanting to do a traitor marine from one of the loyalist chapters, but I haven't been able to settle on one. I had an idea though, to create a character who rather than being from a loyalist chapter wears pieces of armor from defeated foes. So he might have a shoulder pad from a blood angel, the helmet of a salamander, chest piece of an ultramarine and so on and so forth. Thoughts?
I'm also considering doing a marine from the Grey Death legion, as mentioned above this would require some imagination as their colors and heraldry aren't listed in official sources. I also plan to do a world eater and another emperors children marine, an odd couple of sorts
As far as an actual traitor, I've been kicking around the idea of a lamenters marine, but…yellow. I hate yellow
Or maybe a mantis warrior. Decisions, decisions. I'd love to hear any thoughts you guys have about it.
Heretic Tom
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2016/07/05 05:19:12
Subject: Re:Heretic Tom's First Foray - Chaos Warband
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Well, having no opinion other than my own to go on, which I don't put much stock in , I decided to do a Mantis Warriors traitor marine. Here's a wip shot to give you guys an idea of where I'm at with it. Feedback welcome!
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2016/07/05 05:30:49
Subject: Heretic Tom's First Foray - Chaos Warband
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Sister Vastly Superior
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That green is looking good . What are you going to do with that yellow? If I recall correctly, you have painting yellow
On the melta thing, What I do, is I apply a black wash on the whole muzzle, then brown wash half-way and finally a purple wash at the very end of the muzzle
Cheers
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2016/07/05 05:46:29
Subject: Heretic Tom's First Foray - Chaos Warband
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Pious Palatine
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Mantis Warrior is looking good. Solid green and yellow really pops.
EDC
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