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Hate to burst your bubble, but we already have another IoM codex coming, one for Deathwatch. BUT, there is also a Genestealer Codex coming, so there is that.

 Gamgee wrote:

 Iron_Captain wrote:
IoM is what sells, so IoM is what is getting made. But for the love of the Dark Gods please give me more Chaos factions.
I don't really need to see more aliens. 40k is a setting dominated by humans, and humans are more interesting anyway. I would prefer to see a new human faction opposed to the IoM (something like the Severan Dominate would be really cool) rather than more aliens. I simply can't think of any niche that can be filled up by a new alien species.

I can think of one. Cthulhu. We don't have any armies that take inspiration from the other worldly style that they impose. Something so beyond comprehension they are outside of our multiverse so they are even alien to the warp and its influences.

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Also don't even talk niches and IoM. They have every niche, sub-niche, and ultra niche in the universe made for them at this point. If the IoM can double (quadruple even) up on its niches than so can Chaos and Xenos. The Rhak'gol would be a good race to add.

I think between the world eating tentacled monstrosities from beyond our universe worshipped by half-man half-monster doomsday cults, and bloodthirsty evil gods existing in a cyclopean hell dimension sending sanity rending creatures into our reality to further their plan of devouring the material universe, we're set for lovecraftian inspired factions in 40k.

Given that you already had to couch your post in "from another dimension, not chaos, but ANOTHER another dimension even more spookier" I think you probably get that.

 Gamgee wrote:
We also lack a proper robot faction. Since Necrons have been newcroned they are just people stuck in metal bodies which is super lame.

They were always that though (except Scarabs, Spyders and Pariahs, they were actual robots).

 Kid_Kyoto wrote:
Since we're talking of niches, one thing I'd like to see GW try is a race of a different scale.

Nids with their monsters and swarms almost do it, but then you have the gaunts and stealers who are basically bug men.

A race of (let's say) Star Dragons where every model is a monsterous creature or Enslavers where every model is a psyker the size of a Buick would be something really different.

GW might even be able to launch a race like that with just 1-2 kits.

You mean knights and ork killa can armies?


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the_scotsman wrote:

 Gamgee wrote:

 Iron_Captain wrote:
IoM is what sells, so IoM is what is getting made. But for the love of the Dark Gods please give me more Chaos factions.
I don't really need to see more aliens. 40k is a setting dominated by humans, and humans are more interesting anyway. I would prefer to see a new human faction opposed to the IoM (something like the Severan Dominate would be really cool) rather than more aliens. I simply can't think of any niche that can be filled up by a new alien species.

I can think of one. Cthulhu. We don't have any armies that take inspiration from the other worldly style that they impose. Something so beyond comprehension they are outside of our multiverse so they are even alien to the warp and its influences.

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Also don't even talk niches and IoM. They have every niche, sub-niche, and ultra niche in the universe made for them at this point. If the IoM can double (quadruple even) up on its niches than so can Chaos and Xenos. The Rhak'gol would be a good race to add.

I think between the world eating tentacled monstrosities from beyond our universe worshipped by half-man half-monster doomsday cults, and bloodthirsty evil gods existing in a cyclopean hell dimension sending sanity rending creatures into our reality to further their plan of devouring the material universe, we're set for lovecraftian inspired factions in 40k.

Given that you already had to couch your post in "from another dimension, not chaos, but ANOTHER another dimension even more spookier" I think you probably get that.

You mean tyranids?


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 Kid_Kyoto wrote:
Meh, nothing wrong with more human factions, after all we're all (mostly?) human and that's what we relate to.

I prefer well-developed human factions to Orks (loud angry humans) Eldar (skinny aloof humans) and Tau (Japanese humans). The more alien factions like Necrons, Nids and Demons are even less interesting.

None of this means I like or agree with the vast numbers of Space Marine sub-sub-sub factions (though i do understand it, GW ain't a charity after all).

Personally I would love to see some more non-Imperial humans like Space Pirates or Chaos Cults (fingers crossed for GS cults) as well as more diversity for the IG.

I wouldn't mind a return of some of the Craftworld and Ork Clan stuff we got in late 2nd edition though there are always balance issues.

You mean corsairs? (There are dark eldar, eldar, space marines, qnd csm thqt have corsair lists.)


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 FinkleLord wrote:
I am still waiting for Tzeentch or Nurgle Daemonkin.

Tzeench already are pretty good. Nurgle has The Purge for csm qnd the tallyband which are both pretty good.

Khorne was hot garbage before KDK came out.

Nah Chaos doesn't look one iota like anything from the Cthulhu Mythos. It's too.... understood. Tzeentch manipulates, khorne wants skulls, slaanesh pleasure, and nurgle decay.

It's all too obvious. Sure there is a minor element of horror there but its not very mysterious or unknown.

The Ghoul Stars are said to have had a strange Xenos race there that was extremely dangerous and is believed dead/sealed away. It would be a great opportunity to introduce a more Cthulhuish facilitation.

There was some of this to the Old Crons. Also I know Old Crons had some personality, but they were defeated and forced to serve the Ctan forever and it was very grim. The Ctan wanted to wipe out all life to eat and then sow the next feast. The Newcrons are going around making alliances and having worse petty politics than the IoM it's kinda sad. They act nothing like robots. And now they even want to return to a flesh body? Laaaame. They went from villains to anti-heroes in less time than it took to open the cover of the book.

We need a true died in the wool killer robot faction that is perfectly content wiping out all biological life in the galaxy and attempting to liberate/commandeer/corrupt other AI/machine spirits/whatever. Think a 40kified Geth/Reaper type race.

greedy managers seeing that Marines make most money -> make more marines -> see that marines make most money -> make more marines-> ...

Until 40k implodes like "rebooted WHF"

40K has a long way to go before sales dip like WHF. I'm not saying it's impossible...at all, but WHF was a massive product line with comically poor sales when it was rebooted.

With work, we can get there!

 Elbows wrote:
40K has a long way to go before sales dip like WHF. I'm not saying it's impossible...at all, but WHF was a massive product line with comically poor sales when it was rebooted.

With work, we can get there!

Fantasy suffered from most armies needing several hundred figures to play even a basic game with.

 master of ordinance wrote:

 Elbows wrote:
40K has a long way to go before sales dip like WHF. I'm not saying it's impossible...at all, but WHF was a massive product line with comically poor sales when it was rebooted.

With work, we can get there!

Fantasy suffered from most armies needing several hundred figures to play even a basic game with.

I think you're exaggerating the issue. Unless we have very different ideas of a basic game.

I think that there should be one codex for all of the Space Marines armies, another for Astra Militarum which includes the Elysians, the Tallarn and the other kinds of AM, and the rest under Codex: Imperium, which includes SoB, the Inquisition, Admech, Knights and Deathwatch.

Then you can have a Tau codex with added auxiliaries, and a section dedicated to the Farsight Enclave. Following this you get Codex: Eldar, which is split to include Dark Eldar, Eldar, and Corsairs. Of course, it would also include Harlequins.

Orks and Tyranids get rebooted with new codices, the Tyranids including Genestealer Cults. Chaos has a thick codex split into sections, including the Black Legion and those dedicated to the Chaos Gods. Daemons and CSM share a codex. To finish it all off, Necrons keep a single codex and a couple of new factions get added; I particularly like the idea of a Lovecraftian theme.