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I once had an army of the EM4 guys they are... dire.

Replacing the guns helped a lot but if I were to do it now I'd go with the old Copplestone metal troopers or maybe the Rebel guys.

Huh, as an actual owner (and Backer, at that) of Sedition Wars, it's pretty telling that I forgot about them. They are freaking awesome as hard Sci-fi troopers, but terrible to clean and prep.

Nice thing about those rebel minis is they're actually old Starship troopers sculpts for the Movie Mobile Infantry, also known as light infantry in the game.

They're super generic and could pass for nearly anything. Only annoying thing is the women are TINY compared to the men.

I use a bunch as conscripts and people really like them for the ""generic PDF rushed to the front" look

I won't claim they're the leader, but I quite like Heresy's metal troopers.



http://heresyminiatures.com/shop/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=2_61

I have a few in the queue, along with a few Heresy weapons for conversions and Star Wars models for transport, all wrapped up with the victory Decision: Future Combat rules. Biggest gripes are that I'd like a few more female poses, and that if Andy ever got his WIP 3-ups going I'd snap up a lot more.

Kid_Kyoto wrote:In keeping with my love of metals there is the STAR Trooper Kick Starter.

Pretty swanky too. I'd get some as elite forces with the other lot, but they're maybe a bit too sci-fi!

Edit: is it my browser or has bbcode stopped working on Dakka? There should be pics and links in this post.

 Vermis wrote:

Edit: is it my browser or has bbcode stopped working on Dakka? There should be pics and links in this post.

I checked, you left off the http://, a lot of browsers omit it these days but it's still needed for BB code images and links.

I went in and made the edits, hope you don't mind.

Oh, ta! It was my browser, then. And me, if I'm honest.

Those heresy models are pretty cool. Kind of a imperial Navy defense team in vaccum resistant suit feel

I mentioned them but didn't put up pictures, the old Grenedier Future Wars troopers are another low-cost single piece metal line that's worth a look. Apparently the molds were passed around so I've seen them in production by 3 different companies.

I think they're a bit smaller than IG with less chunky weapons but quite nice.

http://www.copplestonecastings.co.uk/list.php?man=0&cat=1&sub=32&page=1







Hmm looks like some of the range is missing from the Northstar/Copplestone site, Moonraker also has them with more sculpts.

http://moonrakerminiatures.com/troopers.htm





The future cops are nice too.

http://moonrakerminiatures.com/cops.htm

Great thread! No one has mentioned Madrobot's stuff. He does several lines, some of which look very Necromundaish. His CDF are dead ringers for Colonial Marines. My only complaint about his stuff are the heads look a bit large.

How about the troops from Puppetwars??? Pig Iron?

I've been working on a DnD in space RPG for my club, and I need mini's. I would have loved to have used Bolt Action figures as generic/character models, but the small scale kills it for me, as the only space elves are GW and Orks from GW and Mantic are just huge in comparison.

Anyhoo.....Just wondering if I could get some comments on how all of these figures you mention scale together, or compare to GW Imperial Guard or Eldar? I know the Mantic dwarves and OrKs look ok. I'd prefer plastics though ( but the Rebel Mini's look awesome...)

I know the Dreamforge stuff looks a bit slimmer, but maybe taller. ( Hmmm just a thought...use them as Eldar? I wonder how they look next tp Bolt Action....)....

Someone mentioned Avil - and I want to second them (or third, whatever). Absolutely LOVE their troopers and various special ops guys.

http://anvilindustry.co.uk/AFTERLIFE/Unity-Council/Unity-Guard

 lord marcus wrote:

 timetowaste85 wrote:
Oh, scions are removed? Then yes. GCPS wins. By a landslide.

Scions are removed because they are elite infantry, and also this is about basic troops

I don't think that matters in the slightest. When we're talking about sci-fi human trooper figures, and not the specific slot that one specific GW kit fits into in a GW-specific army list. Anvil has absolutely top-tier quality figures that could easily be used to represent Scions when playing 40k, and I don't think we're going to disqualify those. Likewise, figures from the Scion kit can be used for any number of other things or other games.

I'm looking through all the pics in the thread, and while I realize everything is up to subjective opinion, I haven't seen anything that beats the GCPS. I'm trying not to let my bias for liking Mantic lead my decision, but while some have a "cute" feel towards them...I don't think any touch Mantic as far as bang for buck. Wargames Factory had awesome ones before, but they sold to someone else, right? And the cost went nuts?

 Kid_Kyoto wrote:
I mentioned them but didn't put up pictures, the old Grenedier Future Wars troopers are another low-cost single piece metal line that's worth a look. Apparently the molds were passed around so I've seen them in production by 3 different companies.

Copplestone's range are different than the old Grenadier sculpts. Copplestone resculpted everything.

Copplestone's sculpts are far superior to the Grenadier/em-4 sculpts.

 timetowaste85 wrote:
I'm looking through all the pics in the thread, and while I realize everything is up to subjective opinion, I haven't seen anything that beats the GCPS. I'm trying not to let my bias for liking Mantic lead my decision, but while some have a "cute" feel towards them...I don't think any touch Mantic as far as bang for buck. Wargames Factory had awesome ones before, but they sold to someone else, right? And the cost went nuts?

They're far too "busy" for my taste. Might be the paint job, but it makes them look muddled and keeps them from being easy to look at from tabletop distance. For some reason, Mantic's proportions always look really off to me, although that's just my opinion.

That's why I (and I assume others) tend to prefer more simplistic models. They look good at tabletop, are easy to recognize at a glance what gear they have, and with less busy designs are easier to give a good paintjob. These are game pieces after all, not diorama pieces, so certain sacrifices and changes need to be made to the model design process to accommodate that. This is honestly probably why Space Marines are so popular as an army for 40k. They're simple, it's easy to tell what gear they have, they have nice clean lines (for the most part) and can be easily recognized and told apart from one another at a glance.

This is obviously just my opinion though, I know there are people who prefer the exact opposite.

 timetowaste85 wrote:
I'm looking through all the pics in the thread, and while I realize everything is up to subjective opinion, I haven't seen anything that beats the GCPS. I'm trying not to let my bias for liking Mantic lead my decision, but while some have a "cute" feel towards them...I don't think any touch Mantic as far as bang for buck. Wargames Factory had awesome ones before, but they sold to someone else, right? And the cost went nuts?

Correct. WGF sokd to warlord and partialy to dreamforge. Cost with warlord doubled or tripled, and some things still have not been rereleased for sale 2 years later.

 Kid_Kyoto wrote:
I mentioned them but didn't put up pictures, the old Grenedier Future Wars troopers are another low-cost single piece metal line that's worth a look. Apparently the molds were passed around so I've seen them in production by 3 different companies.

The Grenadier stuff got broken up when Grenadier went under. Grenadier UK stock went to one, Grenadier US went to another - this is why Miriliton and eM-4 were selling many of the same things. They each got different company stock/moulds. I know Doug from eM-4 (moonraker) has been re-acquiring moulds for certain other old lines, too.

Mark Copplestone has also done at least 3 iterations of each of those future warriors models. The metal band in his current line is different to the old Grenadier line set (eM-4/miriliton) and different again from another set that another company (forgotten which one) had back in the 90s.

Not really the leader but i like the retro look of the http://theionage.com miniatures

 Jehan-reznor wrote:
Not really the leader but i like the retro look of the http://theionage.com miniatures

I agree with this statement. I have a bunch of the 28mm Muster (they were called Levies when I bought them), and while they won't win any awards, they are great gaming pieces.

My vote is on the rather varied and extremely customizable sci fi range from anvil industries. Expensive, but you get great sculpts, casting, generic enough to be used in various games, and a plethora of armament and head options.