I want to have your warhounds as my babies.

They are looking too goddamn amazing!

Some people will never be happy...

Earn the rigth to critizice, by making your own. Or at least be a bit more humble in your comments.

@Foda_Bett: I totally agree, to many GW/FW details would not have worked on real figthing machines. And I should know... There are many flat surfaces on armoured vehicles, at least in the Norwegian Army.

Earn the rigth to critizice, by making your own. Or at least be a bit more humble in your comments.

I'm sure Foda Bett appreciates criticism more than praise. Ya know, as its actually useful opposed to just ego boosting.

Besides, I'm pretty sure he's secure in his brilliance, he's not gunna mind if someone isn't placidly awed.

-Leo037

Cypher037 wrote:

Earn the rigth to critizice, by making your own. Or at least be a bit more humble in your comments.

I'm sure Foda Bett appreciates criticism more than praise. Ya know, as its actually useful opposed to just ego boosting.

Besides, I'm pretty sure he's secure in his brilliance, he's not gunna mind if someone isn't placidly awed.

-Leo037

There's criticism and then there's criticism... But when it does'nt serve other purposes then being rude, or just pointing out that it is'nt like the FW one, I think one should keep it to one selfs.
That was my point...

And of course Foda_Bett is secure in his brilliance.

Azmodai

Adjustable waist! That's too cool. I understand about the tension between art and reality. The shin armor has (at least for me) really grounded that monster. It gets back to more of the artistic "crouchy" feeling.

I am sure Foda appreciates criticism. That's how all of us get better. Criticism that is unhelpful like.."hate it"... doesn't serve much purpose. Criticism like "I don't like XXX because..." is more useful.

Back on topic... I LOVE the shin armor. And the toes are brilliant.

ender502

Destrado wrote:I want to have your warhounds as my babies.

They are looking too goddamn amazing!

All I can say is, Ow.

Anyway, the legs look much better with the armor on. When you're
done do you have any thoughts of putting guardsmen at rest sunning
themselves on the hull?

I definitely understand your point there Foda, Most GeeDub stuff would fail miserably as a true weapon of war. I think I was just trying to bring it more in line visually with what we've come to know with 40k. But your vision and thought process definitely works.

Once the shin armor and toes were put on the model, the 'worky bits' argument seems to be silenced for me. The armor works wonderfully and the toes really beef up the bottom quarter of the model well.

Kid_Kyoto - I don't know if that was your signature humor or not but remember the legs are posable. The screws will not be hidden The Phillips head screws in the toes were temporary. I just picked up Allen head screws yesterday. Just for the toes for 4 Warloards, the screws (not counting nuts or washers) came to $16 US. I like the mechanical look of the Allen screws, and it makes repositioning much easier.

Destrado - I just had a bad visual! :&gt

Azmodai - Thanks for you support. I think you hit the nail on the head. I am not secure in my brilliance, I'm just another modeler trying to "think outside the box" and push the envelope, and urging others to do the same. Constructive criticism is great, if it helps to make all of us better. If it is just to bring someone down a bit, it serves no purpose, except to make the sender feel better. It is an ego thing - if modelers couldn't have egos, there probably wouldn't be any modelers! If a modeler says he or she doesn't get a high from others admiring their work, they are probably not being honest with themselves.

I agree with you, about you "earn" the right to criticize by making (and showing) your own. I suspect some builders won't show for fear of negative responses, and some won't show for fear of reprisal. I once heard a modeler tell another modeler their dirt wasn't to scale. When we are building models of actual aircraft or armor, we try very hard to get it "dead on." This requires a lot of research. Scratchbuilding fantasy models gives a builder a lot more leeway. It's hard to realistically count rivets on a fantasy. We still do a lot of research, but then creative license takes over! Remember, GW can own your money and your loyalty, but not your imagination!

Again, we are showing the process so that some of the things we have learned (through trial & error & screw-ups) can be passed on to others. Also, we get a lot of ideas by looking at other modelers' work.

Now go out and build something! AND POST IT

ender502 - Thanks!

malfred - LOL! Thanks for the compliment in comparing me to barphages, but I don't have near the GS skills required to pull that off.

grey_death - Thanks! We're amazined at how well the shin armor and toes came out. They compliment the whole thing beautifuly.

I was hoping the leg armor would be wider. At least kind of winged towards the outside. I imagine any wider on the inseam would impair it's walking. Could just be the angle though. Will each Titan have it's own armor (as in insignias) or are you going to make a few unique sets? Just curious...

Keep up the fantastic work!!!

Foda_Bett wrote:I once heard a modeler tell another modeler their dirt wasn't to scale.

I've done it. And it was here ^_-.

Cheers Foda you've just made my weekend.

Now finish them off and paint them!

That'll make my year.

ps I know you're not the type to rush, I'm just impatient when I see something so good.

Well we swaped the old bolts out for the new hex bolts so here are some updated pics:






And of course we didn't forget the other 3 titans:


To show you how posable the toes really are here's a couple of in action photos:
Standing on someone:

Stepping:


ZamboniKnight – I tried your suggestion of wider wing armor, but it just doesn’t sing for me… Check the photo:

LOL!

Nice picture, to point out what won't work...

Just excellent! Great progress and the shins add a lot to the model. I love the wings

Do you think it might be an idea to have some variation on the shin re: the skulls/eagles. I know that might create a) more work and b) cost a bit more. But just wondering about whether that might add to them. I'm only bouncing some ideas about, it would be a step too far to call any comment on this criticism!

Keep on trucking


-DMG-


a video re: the skulls for your enjoyment

DaMaGe - actually the shin plates have very large blank areas, where freehand and custom decals weill make each titan seperate from his brothers.

Foda_Bett wrote:Kid_Kyoto - I don't know if that was your signature humor or not but remember the legs are posable. The screws will not be hidden The Phillips head screws in the toes were temporary. I just picked up Allen head screws yesterday. Just for the toes for 4 Warloards, the screws (not counting nuts or washers) came to $16 US. I like the mechanical look of the Allen screws, and it makes repositioning much easier.

Sorry man I wasn't clear, that was meant as construcitve criticism though.

The warhounds are incredible. But I worry that the two screw heads on the shin armor will hurt suspension of disbelief. So I wonder if you have a bit of plasticard or a techy bit to cover them, or even fill in the gap with green stuff and have two rounded lumps in the middle of the armor.

Kid_Kyoto – Those screws will probably also be changed to allen screws, if they disturb a lot of people.

I never thought I’d have to worry about hiding screws on………a……… machine……..

Think about the logic… If everything on a Warhound was welded or riveted, repair and maintenance would be a bit tough…. Filling the screw heads with green stuff would make them a bit difficult to remove, as I will explain.

This is not a purely static model. It’s a different design world when things work and objects, such as limbs, can be posed or repositioned. This model was never intended to mimic FW glue-up models. This model can be taken apart to repaint or replace damaged parts…. Shin armor can be swapped with a different design by removing 2 small screws. Guns can be swapped simply by pulling one off and replacing it. New Concept! I think a few visible screws, properly placed, is a small price to pay for so much flexibility.

Who knows, next month I may want to try a different design for the armor, or feet, or hips, or….. Try this with a FW model.

The screws won’t look that bad when they aren’t a contrasting color. I’ll bet you didn’t even notice the two large allen screw heads on the top sides of each foot…

Hang in there, we’ve got a long way to go! Reasons for assumed madness will be revealed in due time

Everything looking nice. I like the feet, the screws give it a not-so-technologically-advanced look, which is fine IMO as it makes the titan look heavier and sturdier.

On a side note, I might have to reconsider having all four Warhounds as my kids.

Firstly, I think the missus wouldn't like the idea, for one. Secondly, I wouldn't want to conjure bad mental pictures regarding anything even closely related to how babies are born, from one end to the other.

On the other hand... being able to paint your babies would be totally awesome.


Yes, yes, very nice N.3! Now go wash your Volcano Cannon and get out of here before N.4 wakes up and uses his Plasma Blastgun on you again.

I merely commented that I thought it looked light on the top side now that is has the shin armor, that he might see if he could widen it our or beef it up or something. That's constructive criticism and I stand by that comment. I think it looks unbalanced or out of proportion at the moment. Things I might try would be moving the guns out further from the body, or lengthening the waist or something to make the legs less dominating.

It's not like I simply said it was ugly or just plain stupid. To say that one is not allowed to offer any form of criticism unless they build their very own as well.. Now THAT is just plain stupid.

You shore have a purty mouth.

Fantastic work, Foda_Bett. Probably the most impressive project ever to grace Dakka.

You could be a little more accommodating to criticism, though. As far as I can see, it has all been well-intentioned; a simple "Thanks for the feedback, but I like it the way it is" would suffice if you disagree with it.

We all love your stuff (some more than others). There is no need to get snarky just because someone thinks improvement is possible.

I like your leg greaves....they're real puffy.

The only comment I have re the titan as a whole is: Ohhhhhh, I like.

Vis-a-vi the shin armour: Would it be possible to countersink the screw heads? That way, if one wanted to hide them, they could just pack the head with some green stuff and paint right over it.

And finally, from the Chaos player in me... Where is the Dark Mechanicus version?

I appreciate ALL the feedback, positive and not so positive! The main intent of this thread was to have some fun and bring y’all along on our adventure of building 4 Warhounds in a new way, with some unique ideas that we thought we would try. Basically like live TV, we weren’t looking for a consensus, we just thought everyone could have fun watching them take shape. We are trying to show you how to think outside the box and not be tied to a specific ingrained image of what a Warhound should look like. We had hoped you would take these ideas, add your own twists and come up with even more unique and better models.

But some of you are getting way too serious about this. LIGHTEN UP & HAVE FUN WITH IT! By the way, Destrado & Malfred, you gave my Dad the best laugh he’s had in a looooong time!

Trying not to be snarky, for the most part, we like them just as they are, because they are being built to our specifications to do exactly what we wanted them to do. What we had hoped was that you would all take from this thread new ways to make your own models exactly the way you want them.

If anyone has been offended by this thread, we sincerely apologize, for that was never our intent. But, if you aren’t having fun with it, maybe it’s time for you to move on.

We never thought that the only people that should criticize are ones who have built warhounds. We asked to see your models because that’s what sharing is all about. In most instances, constructive criticism is better received when the giver is speaking from experience, not just from Warhound building. It is a lot easier to see where someone is coming from if they are willing to show their wares, not just critique others. Case in point is Azmodai – He hangs it all out there, and he is well respected for it!

Aduro - I don’t believe anyone called anyone or anything in this thread stupid. Please don’t either.

Azmodai – I love your work! You definitely know about getting outside the box!

HAVE FUN!

Thats really awesome. Are you thinking of making any on commission after you are finished the mold? Or are you planning on Hoarding them all to yourself, and treating them like your children? I'd personally chose the second, but hey, im weird like that.

Foda_Bett wrote:Kid_Kyoto – Those screws will probably also be changed to allen screws, if they disturb a lot of people.

I never thought I’d have to worry about hiding screws on………a……… machine……..

Think about the logic… If everything on a Warhound was welded or riveted, repair and maintenance would be a bit tough…. Filling the screw heads with green stuff would make them a bit difficult to remove, as I will explain.

This is not a purely static model. It’s a different design world when things work and objects, such as limbs, can be posed or repositioned. This model was never intended to mimic FW glue-up models. This model can be taken apart to repaint or replace damaged parts…. Shin armor can be swapped with a different design by removing 2 small screws. Guns can be swapped simply by pulling one off and replacing it. New Concept! I think a few visible screws, properly placed, is a small price to pay for so much flexibility.

Who knows, next month I may want to try a different design for the armor, or feet, or hips, or….. Try this with a FW model.

The screws won’t look that bad when they aren’t a contrasting color. I’ll bet you didn’t even notice the two large allen screw heads on the top sides of each foot…

Hang in there, we’ve got a long way to go! Reasons for assumed madness will be revealed in due time

OK, if the shin guards are removable I see why the screws are exposed.

I think the problem I have is that in scale the screws would be bigger than a person and would make the warhounds look more like a toy. After putting so much effort into detailing it it seems a bit jarring.

Allen screws would definietely look better.

Kid_Kyoto wrote:

OK, if the shin guards are removable I see why the screws are exposed.

I think the problem I have is that in scale the screws would be bigger than a person and would make the warhounds look more like a toy. After putting so much effort into detailing it it seems a bit jarring.

Allen screws would definietely look better.

Just from the top of my simple head, maybe they have some titan sized tools for those screws... They got some pretty big screws on the largest ocean vessels.

@Destrado: LOL, so you get a little knigth or watnot, and one day it grows up to be a fully mature Warlord titan. Should be about Warhound size when it hits the teens...

Just to throw out an option on the divisive screw issue...

There are some screws available that have heads on both ends, they thread in the middle and there is no exposed nut. They sit more flush than a standard screw/nut, and might be just the thing. Check in the section of your local DIY where they have the furniture fittings.

I'm not entirely sure they come in the proper size, but I thought it'd be good to mention the option.

I have to say mmmmmmmmmmmmm yummy! this is a fantastic project and never let people get you down! Criticism is a hindsight and there are times when it's useful, but hours too late.

On the screw thing I personally have to agree with Kid Kyoty. It's not that the screws are out of place but a bit out of scale. They're big, but not really big enough to fit in with 40K...i.e. takes huge work gangs to unscrew them. Personally I would be tempted to look at 'capping' them with a ad/mech or eagle symbol, that's removable. Possibly magnitised. That way they are still removabe but put's it 'out of our world'.

also, I know you said that the moulds destroyed the