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2012/10/15 03:38:39
Subject: Privateer Press: Gargantuans (New Archangel pics pages 8 and 9)
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Nihilistic Necron Lord
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Concept artwork for the new Troll unit, Warders as I recall. Basically meant as a more defensive unit of Champions. Because those weren't hard enough to kill already.
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2012/10/15 03:42:33
Subject: Privateer Press: Gargantuans (New Archangel pics pages 8 and 9)
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Member of the Ethereal Council
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Ok, now i want to start Trollbloods.
They arent making this easy on me.
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2012/10/15 03:55:56
Subject: Privateer Press: Gargantuans (New Archangel pics pages 8 and 9)
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Nihilistic Necron Lord
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I know right? I want to start pretty much every faction other than Menoth. Screw those guys.
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2012/10/15 04:18:21
Subject: Privateer Press: Gargantuans (New Archangel pics pages 8 and 9)
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[DCM]
Dankhold Troggoth
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Beautiful!
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2012/10/15 05:12:20
Subject: Privateer Press: Gargantuans (New Archangel pics pages 8 and 9)
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Pyre Troll
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wwwwwwwwwwwoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo new trollbloods makes me happy
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2012/10/15 09:33:25
Subject: Privateer Press: Gargantuans (New Archangel pics pages 8 and 9)
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Elite Tyranid Warrior
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AduroT wrote:Concept artwork for the new Troll unit, Warders as I recall. Basically meant as a more defensive unit of Champions. Because those weren't hard enough to kill already.
That armor and weaponry looks like something out of WoW.
...this is a good thing to me.
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2012/10/15 15:07:33
Subject: Privateer Press: Gargantuans (New Archangel pics pages 8 and 9)
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Wraith
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AduroT wrote:Concept artwork for the new Troll unit, Warders as I recall. Basically meant as a more defensive unit of Champions. Because those weren't hard enough to kill already.
Hello Shield Wall. That won't be annoying with a KSB behind it or anything...
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2012/10/15 15:30:42
Subject: Privateer Press: Gargantuans (New Archangel pics pages 8 and 9)
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Old Sourpuss
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Are we thinking Armor 22 or so? I wouldn't be surprised if they had something similar to the MoW Demo Corp when it comes to their abilities. Something to either give them additional die, or 2 swings... I wouldn't mind both... but then again, that's what Champs are for
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2012/10/15 16:29:53
Subject: Privateer Press: Gargantuans (New Archangel pics pages 8 and 9)
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Wraith
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If they do get shields and shield wall, I'd expect ARM 24ish. They'd have to do something to make them stand out more from the Champs to offset the loss of damage output.
Borka's going to need a moment alone once these guys come out.
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2012/10/15 17:31:35
Subject: Privateer Press: Gargantuans (New Archangel pics pages 8 and 9)
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Old Sourpuss
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It all depends on the base armor of the unit.
If they use the base armor of the Trollkin champions as the starting point, we'll probably see Shield Wall, but probably won't see Defensive Line (since Shield Wall does the same thing). So we're looking at Armor 20. Add in a KSB and we've got armor 22.
The only way they'll most likely hit higher than that is if they have a higher base ARM than the Champions do.
And on my note of Demo Corp like attacks, we probably won't see that, but we might see weapon master and reach (believe it said reach in the video). I can see them being closer to the Cetrati from Skorne. Decent Str, MAT, low-ish DEF, and ARM 16 with Reach, Weapon Master, Shielf Wall and Tough... probably at roughly the same cost as the Cetrati since I can see them not getting CMA for Tough, but who knows.
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2012/10/15 18:13:01
Subject: Privateer Press: Gargantuans (New Archangel pics pages 8 and 9)
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Madrak Ironhide
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I can see Defensive Line and Shield Wall going together.
However, I think more likely the presence of the shield gives
the Troll a base ARM 17 and then they get either Shield
Wall or Defensive Line.
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2012/10/15 21:46:20
Subject: Privateer Press: Gargantuans (New Archangel pics pages 8 and 9)
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Nihilistic Necron Lord
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Shield tend to give +1 base Arm, and then likely they'll get Shield Wall. Probably Reach and Weapon Master as well, but no way to get two attacks or they'd be straight up better than Champions.
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2012/10/16 00:41:18
Subject: Privateer Press: Gargantuans (New Archangel pics pages 8 and 9)
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Madrak Ironhide
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AduroT wrote:Shield tend to give +1 base Arm, and then likely they'll get Shield Wall. Probably Reach and Weapon Master as well, but no way to get two attacks or they'd be straight up better than Champions.
pGrissel
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2012/10/16 00:50:09
Subject: Privateer Press: Gargantuans (New Archangel pics pages 8 and 9)
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Nihilistic Necron Lord
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malfred wrote: AduroT wrote:Shield tend to give +1 base Arm, and then likely they'll get Shield Wall. Probably Reach and Weapon Master as well, but no way to get two attacks or they'd be straight up better than Champions.
pGrissel
edit; No way to get extra attacks that couldn't also be applied to give Champions three attacks.
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2012/10/16 00:57:49
Subject: Privateer Press: Gargantuans (New Archangel pics pages 8 and 9)
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Madrak Ironhide
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AduroT wrote: malfred wrote: AduroT wrote:Shield tend to give +1 base Arm, and then likely they'll get Shield Wall. Probably Reach and Weapon Master as well, but no way to get two attacks or they'd be straight up better than Champions.
pGrissel
edit; No way to get extra attacks that couldn't also be applied to give Champions three attacks.
Three is generally overkill for Champions unless someone gives you space to Overtake around thanks to Skaldi.
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2012/11/03 20:21:30
Subject: Privateer Press: Gargantuans (New Archangel pics pages 8 and 9)
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Nihilistic Necron Lord
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2012/11/03 21:31:35
Subject: Privateer Press: Gargantuans (New Archangel pics pages 8 and 9)
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Dankhold Troggoth
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Where do you game, Aduro? So many unreleased models between these and Galleon in the Colossals thread.
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2012/11/03 21:45:27
Subject: Privateer Press: Gargantuans (New Archangel pics pages 8 and 9)
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Bane Thrall
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Warmachine Weekend
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GW Rules Interpretation Syndrom. GWRIS. Causes people to second guess a rule in a book because that's what they would have had to do in a GW system.
SilverMK2 wrote:"Well, I have epilepsy and was holding a knife when I had a seizure... I couldn't help it! I was just trying to chop the vegetables for dinner!" |
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2012/11/03 22:18:03
Subject: Privateer Press: Gargantuans (New Archangel pics pages 8 and 9)
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Nihilistic Necron Lord
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This. Greatest Warmachine event in the US next to Lock and Load in my opinion. We got DC (lead Dev), Ed (guy in charge) and two others I don't really know from PP. As they work for them they get unreleased and/or preproduction stuff to add to their personal collections and bring em along. I totally kicked DC's arse in a pick up game, but that might have been his string of 6+ ones in a row from Galleon one turn.
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2012/11/04 07:35:46
Subject: Privateer Press: Gargantuans (New Archangel pics pages 8 and 9)
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Dakka Veteran
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CRA on a pow 12, 3 inch AOE with auto fire? Yes please! Now I've just gotta pick up the other Cataphract units before these bad boys hit the shelves. Hopefully they'll be in plastic to make the unit a bit cheaper
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2012/11/04 08:45:44
Subject: Privateer Press: Gargantuans (New Archangel pics pages 8 and 9)
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Nihilistic Necron Lord
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They are indeed going to be plastic.
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2012/11/04 14:00:17
Subject: Privateer Press: Gargantuans (New Archangel pics pages 8 and 9)
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Dankhold Troggoth
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Ah, got it! Very cool
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2012/11/04 14:18:58
Subject: Privateer Press: Gargantuans (New Archangel pics pages 8 and 9)
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Fixture of Dakka
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I foresee the entire Cataphract unit range (Arcuarii and Cetratii) being redone in plastic off the back of this release.
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2012/11/04 15:16:04
Subject: Privateer Press: Gargantuans (New Archangel pics pages 8 and 9)
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Madrak Ironhide
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AduroT wrote:
This. Greatest Warmachine event in the US next to Lock and Load in my opinion. We got DC (lead Dev), Ed (guy in charge) and two others I don't really know from PP. As they work for them they get unreleased and/or preproduction stuff to add to their personal collections and bring em along. I totally kicked DC's arse in a pick up game, but that might have been his string of 6+ ones in a row from Galleon one turn.
Jason Martin and Ron Kruzie
Jason played a game against gdaybloke. They went eFeora/Judicator
vs. Ossyan/Hyperion. It was a pretty fun game to kibbitz. At one point
Jason was thinking out loud about song of battle vs. safe passage. I
pointed out that Ret's ranged weapons were magical.
"Feth!"
Apparently he had been using safe passage and gdaybloke had been
not shooting the 'jacks.
I ran away at that point.
I'm not sure what his actual job is. I know he used to be the convention
coordinator, but he's not that anymore.
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2012/11/04 20:52:58
Subject: Privateer Press: Gargantuans (New Archangel pics pages 8 and 9)
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Omnipotent Lord of Change
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George Spiggott wrote:I foresee the entire Cataphract unit range (Arcuarii and Cetratii) being redone in plastic off the back of this release.
Been waiting for this for a couple years now, is about time. New cataphracts without weapon masters is interesting, but yay for more skorne shooting
- Salvage
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2012/11/04 21:16:58
Subject: Privateer Press: Gargantuans (New Archangel pics pages 8 and 9)
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Dankhold Troggoth
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Was wondering when you'd show up, Re: the Skorne stuff, Salvage
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2012/11/06 01:04:38
Subject: Re:Privateer Press: Gargantuans (New Archangel pics pages 8 and 9)
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Nihilistic Necron Lord
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Several spoilers from the newest No Quarter.
Arch Angel;
Mv6 Str14 Mat6 Rat5 Def11 Arm18 Cmd7
bite is pow 19, 2 x pow 17 claws, dragon breath is range 10 AOE 3 Pow 14 D3+1 Strafe crit fire, Animus is Draconic aura(end within 2" of it, set on fire)
46 hit boxes
4 Fury
They've previously said it has Consume on the Bite and Ride By Attack but I did not see that on the spoiler this time and I've not seen the NQ myself.
Rask, the new Gatorman caster;
Mv5 Str7 Mat6 Rat7 Def15 Arm15 Cmd5
has a trident cannon rng 10 pow 12
Has ammo types: Arcane interference, energy siphon and paralysis
and a ps 11 blade.
Fury 6, 15 dmg
Spells:
admonition
boundless charge
fury
inhospitable ground
If hes killed a bog trog within his command can bbe killed instead to heal 1.
Rask feat is: While in Rask's control area, friendly faction models cannot be targeted by attacks or chares made by models more then 5" away from them. Dark Waters last for one round.
And the Skinwalker Alpha apparently gives blood drinker and rapid strike, and has retalitory strike himself
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2012/11/06 01:18:12
Subject: Re:Privateer Press: Gargantuans (New Archangel pics pages 8 and 9)
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Madrak Ironhide
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AduroT wrote:Several spoilers from the newest No Quarter.
Arch Angel;
Mv6 Str14 Mat6 Rat5 Def11 Arm18 Cmd7
bite is pow 19, 2 x pow 17 claws, dragon breath is range 10 AOE 3 Pow 14 D3+1 Strafe crit fire, Animus is Draconic aura(end within 2" of it, set on fire)
46 hit boxes
4 Fury
They've previously said it has Consume on the Bite and Ride By Attack but I did not see that on the spoiler this time and I've not seen the NQ myself.
Rask, the new Gatorman caster;
Mv5 Str7 Mat6 Rat7 Def15 Arm15 Cmd5
has a trident cannon rng 10 pow 12
Has ammo types: Arcane interference, energy siphon and paralysis
and a ps 11 blade.
Fury 6, 15 dmg
Spells:
admonition
boundless charge
fury
inhospitable ground
If hes killed a bog trog within his command can bbe killed instead to heal 1.
Rask feat is: While in Rask's control area, friendly faction models cannot be targeted by attacks or chares made by models more then 5" away from them. Dark Waters last for one round.
And the Skinwalker Alpha apparently gives blood drinker and rapid strike, and has retalitory strike himself
Admonition WITH Inhospitable Ground? Someone hates Skorne...
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2012/11/06 01:28:21
Subject: Privateer Press: Gargantuans (New Archangel pics pages 8 and 9)
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Nihilistic Necron Lord
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Well the PP staff at WMW during the Q&A panel Did call him a "Bastard". Automatically Appended Next Post: Couple updates.
Rask's sac ability is the same as the Exemplar Errant Senechal's, so it's remove one to ignore any amount of overkill damage.
Alpha is 3pts, Blood Drinker is Granted, and Rapid Strike is Tactics.
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2012/11/06 09:32:25
Subject: Privateer Press: Gargantuans (New Archangel pics pages 8 and 9)
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Dominating Dominatrix
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Another Fury 6 Warlock? I was hoping for someone with more. Don't recognize any of the rules except inhospitable ground.
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