Forgeworld 2014 News & Rumours - p#132 Questoris Knight Magaera

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**Medium of Death**

Thanks for the clarification!

Go, go, gadget wallet!

**Haighus**

BrookM wrote:
And holy crap, that equipment!

You can't just leave us on a cliff-hanger like that....

**BrookM**

Haighus wrote:
BrookM wrote:
And holy crap, that equipment!

You can't just leave us on a cliff-hanger like that....

Spotter scope (+10 pts) - Once per turn a model with a spotter scope may target a model within 60" instead of firing a weapon. All models in the same unit with a sniper rifle may target the selected unit, even if it is out of range. They also gain Night Vision.

**Bloodhorror**

60" Sniper rifles with Night Vision is PRETTY fancy.

Shame Sniper rifles are kinda crap :(

**BrookM**

The D-99 list is fluffy as hell, if you want to go toe to toe with the store jerks, don't use this list.

Plus, WS4, BS4, I4 veterans and an I5 company commander? Oh yes, they will whine and whine.

**Medium of Death**

That sounds pretty cool. Anything interesting like that for the 'Nids?

**BrookM**

I'm not a Nid player, so can't really answer that.

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Aaaaand found the first typo: Decimator squads a.k.a. sniper teams have a 4+ save for some reason.

**Bloodhorror**

I am a Nid player so I can answer that

No, we don't have anything Fluffy to go up against the D-99 Units.

What we do have are Stonecrushers which are some of the most bs models in a Nid army now, Dimacheron, a page of rules that seem awesome and yet.... oh so weird...

Meitoc Spores that are now Abysmal, Malenthropes which are the new Venomthropes on steroids.

And Our old Garganutan Creatures that have had no updates and are in there just so we can carry around one big ass book compared to 4 like everyone else

!

**Enigwolf**

Oooh. What other gear do they get?

**Eldercaveman**

Bloodhorror wrote:
I am a Nid player so I can answer that

No, we don't have anything Fluffy to go up against the D-99 Units.

What we do have are Stonecrushers which are some of the most bs models in a Nid army now, Dimacheron, a page of rules that seem awesome and yet.... oh so weird...

Meitoc Spores that are now Abysmal, Malenthropes which are the new Venomthropes on steroids.

And Our old Garganutan Creatures that have had no updates and are in there just so we can carry around one big ass book compared to 4 like everyone else !

Are you saying stones crushers are bad?

**Haighus**

Who can get the spotters scope? that is a really cool piece of wargear. I'm guessing the Decimator squad can. Also, are snipers a 2pt upgrade for D-99 units like the IG codex?

**Bloodhorror**

Eldercaveman wrote:
Bloodhorror wrote:
I am a Nid player so I can answer that

No, we don't have anything Fluffy to go up against the D-99 Units.

What we do have are Stonecrushers which are some of the most bs models in a Nid army now, Dimacheron, a page of rules that seem awesome and yet.... oh so weird...

Meitoc Spores that are now Abysmal, Malenthropes which are the new Venomthropes on steroids.

And Our old Garganutan Creatures that have had no updates and are in there just so we can carry around one big ass book compared to 4 like everyone else !

Are you saying stones crushers are bad?

I'm saying they are the best Unit possible IMO!

165 points for one with a Bone Flail.

Against Tanks, HOW will kill it at s10 Armourbane and AP2.
Against MCs, the Bone Flail inflicts Instant Death and is AP1 and S10
Against Hordes, The Bone Flail allows you to make 1 attack per enemy model in B2B
Against Terminators, HOW at AP2 will do 'em over

They are beautiful

**BrookM**

Haighus wrote:
Who can get the spotters scope? that is a really cool piece of wargear. I'm guessing the Decimator squad can. Also, are snipers a 2pt upgrade for D-99 units like the IG codex?

Veteran squads can take one for free, in sniper squads they cost 12 pts (that's a veteran plus the rifle). And yeah, only the Decimator squads have access to the spotter scopes.

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Enigwolf wrote:
Oooh. What other gear do they get?

Other than that, it's more or less the same: Breaching charges, las-cutters, but strangely enough, demo charges are absent.

**H.B.M.C.**

What did they do to the Meitoc Spores? I've got about 6 of them and it'd suck if they suddenly became worse than awful. Still, good to see the Malanthrope get a boost. FW's previously revised Malanthrope rules made me gasp they were so God-awful.

**Eldercaveman**

Bloodhorror wrote:
Eldercaveman wrote:
Bloodhorror wrote:
I am a Nid player so I can answer that

No, we don't have anything Fluffy to go up against the D-99 Units.

What we do have are Stonecrushers which are some of the most bs models in a Nid army now, Dimacheron, a page of rules that seem awesome and yet.... oh so weird...

Meitoc Spores that are now Abysmal, Malenthropes which are the new Venomthropes on steroids.

And Our old Garganutan Creatures that have had no updates and are in there just so we can carry around one big ass book compared to 4 like everyone else !

Are you saying stones crushers are bad?

I'm saying they are the best Unit possible IMO!

165 points for one with a Bone Flail.

Against Tanks, HOW will kill it at s10 Armourbane and AP2.
Against MCs, the Bone Flail inflicts Instant Death and is AP1 and S10
Against Hordes, The Bone Flail allows you to make 1 attack per enemy model in B2B
Against Terminators, HOW at AP2 will do 'em over

They are beautiful

I was getting to rant like mad if you said they were terrible,they are amazing units,and I think I'll be running one or two alongside my .dakka dip fexes and dimmy!

**Bloodhorror**

Yeah sorry, its the language I use

I tend to apply the word "bs" to mean filthy and amazing

!

Meitoc Spores are now Toughness 3 with 1 wound and no save, can't charge and only explode if you move within 6" or opt to "shoot" them with their BS of -

6" s4 ap4 Large blast, strikedown, ignores cover.

15 points each though...

I rate them as 1 Ripper out of 5.

**BrookM**

Also, for those wondering about the Elysian D99 list:

Some of the highlights that will make people upset:
- D99 veterans are all WS4 and I4.
- Everybody has preferred enemy (Tyranids) that can be swapped for any other xenos army when picking the warlord trait.
- Everybody is Stubborn.
- All vehicles except for the sentry batteries are BS4 (and WS4 Sentinels)!
- Special weapon squads are dropped in favour of flavoured OVERKILL squads now:
1. Decimation squads are made up of snipers and spotters (Up to four snipers and up to four spotters strong), who can take spotting scopes that extend sniper rifle range to 60" and give the unit Night Vision.
2. Extermination squads are 5-10 strong squads made up of a sergeant and flamers. The veterans in this squad all carry flamers, or swap them for grenade launchers for free.
3. Executioner squads are 5-10 strong and come with shotguns, though any veteran may exchange this for either a meltagun or plasma gun for the usual price. They're also monster hunters.
- BS4 Vulture with strafing run. :pirate:
- Major Durra has WS5, I5, a heavy chainsword and is an HQ upgrade of 35 pts.

Some of the things people will enjoy a lot:
- Other stats are still squish, plus everybody has a 5+ save.
- If you take the D99 warlord trait you must also pick one of three disadvantages (if not shooting, always run towards the enemy / when running or assaulting, roll two dice and pick the lowest / whenever you pass a Ld or charge the enemy take a strength check and if failed remove a model with no save allowed)
- Valkyries can no longer carry Tauros or Sentinels sadly, only the Skytalon can now.
- You pay more than average for a lot of the units (75 pt scout Sentinels!)
- No tanks, no platoons, no Scions
- No Voice of Command
- No Lords of War

Apologies if something is wrong, t'was a long day.

**Eldercaveman**

Bloodhorror wrote:
Yeah sorry, its the language I use

I tend to apply the word "bs" to mean filthy and amazing !

Meitoc Spores are now Toughness 3 with 1 wound and no save, can't charge and only explode if you move within 6" or opt to "shoot" them with their BS of -

6" s4 ap4 Large blast, strikedown, ignores cover.

15 points each though...

I rate them as 1 Ripper out of 5.

Must be because you are from Nottingham

. (Says the Leicester lad)

I think my Forge World purchases after these release will be a second Malonthrope, 2 stone crushers and a Dimmy as well as the IA4 book.

**HisDivineShadow**

Scanning through the last few pages I see a lot of the new tyranid creature rules.
But has anyone seen rules for the castigator

**BlaxicanX**

Those Elysians look damn impressive.

The ultimate Veterans squad list.

**MajorWesJanson**

BrookM wrote:

- Major Durra has WS5, I5, a heavy chainsword and is an HQ upgrade of 35 pts.

This better mean FW is making a model for him, or some new parts for Elysians. Elysians have no distinct character models, and no parts for any close combat weapons or pistols besides a las-pistol. The way to make a platoon or company commander is a tiny eagle on one shoulderpad instead of a blank one, and a yelling head. And a power fist as an option.

**Enigwolf**

Are the three Special Weapon squads individual troops choices, or as a replacement to Special Weapon Squads in Platoons?

**BrookM**

MajorWesJanson wrote:
BrookM wrote:

- Major Durra has WS5, I5, a heavy chainsword and is an HQ upgrade of 35 pts.

This better mean FW is making a model for him, or some new parts for Elysians. Elysians have no distinct character models, and no parts for any close combat weapons or pistols besides a las-pistol. The way to make a platoon or company commander is a tiny eagle on one shoulderpad instead of a blank one, and a yelling head. And a power fist as an option.

Oh yes! I'd rather see them either write in their lists that sergeants can take lasguns or give us arms with pistols and ccw's for them first.

As for Durra, I've converted my existing company commander into one, though I should be glad I had a spare shotgun from the veterans pack along with a spare Tempestus Scions chainsword.

Enigwolf wrote:
Are the three Special Weapon squads individual troops choices, or as a replacement to Special Weapon Squads in Platoons?

The squads are all elite choices.

**reds8n**

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**xttz**

Bloodhorror wrote:
Yeah sorry, its the language I use

I tend to apply the word "bs" to mean filthy and amazing !

Meitoc Spores are now Toughness 3 with 1 wound and no save, can't charge and only explode if you move within 6" or opt to "shoot" them with their BS of -

6" s4 ap4 Large blast, strikedown, ignores cover.

15 points each though...

I rate them as 1 Ripper out of 5.

You've glossed over a few points:

1) They're S5, not S4
2) They come with Shrouded, so decent cover saves should be easily achievable, especially as they ignore difficult terrain.
3) They drop D3+1 regular spore mines each when killed, or when their attacks miss (giving you 10-20pts back). For a single brood that's between 6 and 12 spore mines in at least 3 separate units that have to be dealt with. A single 45pt unit can draw fire from up to 4 enemy units in one turn. Oh, and these new spores will often be able to charge immediately if they aren't taken care of quickly.
4) The change to how Meiotic Spores 'attack' now means you don't have to wait for a charge, which in turn means you can use them on turn 1 and/or the same turn they run. That can make a huge difference and is arguably better than how regular spore mines work.

They're certainly not the worst option.

**Peregrine**

BrookM wrote:
The squads are all elite choices.

So what do they have for troops? That one BS 4 platoon squad? I guess that would be an interesting balancing factor, your elites are awesome melta/plasma squads but your mandatory troops suck. At least until you abuse the faction rules and take troops from some other IG list...

**Enigwolf**

Peregrine wrote:
BrookM wrote:
The squads are all elite choices.

So what do they have for troops? That one BS 4 platoon squad? I guess that would be an interesting balancing factor, your elites are awesome melta/plasma squads but your mandatory troops suck. At least until you abuse the faction rules and take troops from some other IG list...

...Did someone say DKoK troops?

**reds8n**

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